Danshi dato Omotteita Osananajimi tono Shinkon Seikatsu ga Umaku Ikisugiru Ken ni Tsuite - Vol. 1 Ch. 4

[Ludd_]

Not wanting their partner to cheat == high maintenance

Yeah forgiving your partner for cheating isn't being mature, that's just being stupid
Also on another note is it really cheating because it's an arranged marriage and not an actual marriage?

 

[Mangamoz]

Not wanting their partner to cheat == high maintenance

Japanese women are way more accepting to cheating than women in the west. It's a cultural thing, don't ask me why, I don't get it either.

https://metropolisjapan.com/why-does-84-percent-of-women-in-japan-think-cheating-is-healthy/

 

[Meridis]

Why would you even react at matching mugs? It's common to have two or more of a matching design. That's just how you buy things normally, unless you're specifically just buying one for yourself.

Likewise, if you have two controllers, you often have one charging and using the other. It's not weird at all.

I think the norm in japan was supposed to be just a set of dishes for each person and a set for guests. That or it's just an anime/manga troupe. Since everyone picks their own with their own look, matching sets are setup as just a couple thing. I do the same though that may be an autism thing, since I'll fixate on a specific utensil and use it exclusively for years.

 

[Jakeh24]

Bro pulling crit saves left and right

Full counter skill 🤣

 

[D00T]

Fmc is okay with mc cheating, even as a joke wtf

Japanese people cheat a lot even though it's looked down upon, like prostitution isn't considered cheating

 

[phil777]

The cheating thing aside, this was a pretty wholesome chapter.

 

[Chronigan]

Not wanting their partner to cheat == high maintenance

Japan + rich influential families + arranged marriage. Being faithful is probably rarer and wanting emotional attachments is seen as selfish.

 

[AnotherDuck]

Yeah forgiving your partner for cheating isn't being mature, that's just being stupid

I would neither call it forgiving nor stupid. She said tolerate. Forgive is something she'd do if he did something she objected to. And your stance towards your partner cheating isn't about intelligence. It's culture and personal choice.

Also on another note is it really cheating because it's an arranged marriage and not an actual marriage?

Doesn't matter if the marriage is arranged or not; it's still a real marriage.

I think the norm in japan was supposed to be just a set of dishes for each person and a set for guests. That or it's just an anime/manga troupe. Since everyone picks their own with their own look, matching sets are setup as just a couple thing. I do the same though that may be an autism thing, since I'll fixate on a specific utensil and use it exclusively for years.

But if you live alone, you'd have your cup, and the guest cups. In that case it's normal to just buy everything in the same style, since there's no reason to go out of your way to buy something else for guests.

I don't think that's an autism thing. Everyone has favourites, even when it comes to small things like utensils. Speaking about cups specifically, I've been using the same cup I got as a participation prize for a race when I was a small kid. And I had a specific set of silverware I always tried to use when we visited my mother's family house.

Japan + rich influential families + arranged marriage. Being faithful is probably rarer and wanting emotional attachments is seen as selfish.

Arranged marriages were pretty common worldwide until relatively recently (from a historical perspective). Marrying for personal attachment is new. And Japan is pretty conservative, especially in the upper class.

 

[Unma]

Not wanting their partner to cheat == high maintenance

NGL I think she was referring to the whole interrogating him over a stray piece of hair laying around. Only a high maintenance partner would make a huge deal out of a little piece of hair, or someone in a relationship that's thoroughly strained.

 

[DanYHKim]

He's very thorough pepping to make the apartment look like only one person lives there. Like a serial killer sanitizing a site to remove evidence. Hair, fibers, and DNA.

 

[GolfAlphaMike]

You're already in her room...
SEGGS.

 

[Ludd_]

I would neither call it forgiving nor stupid. She said tolerate. Forgive is something she'd do if he did something she objected to. And your stance towards your partner cheating isn't about intelligence. It's culture and personal choice.

Not really though? All the stories I've heard about people forgiving cheaters guess what happened, they cheated again, I've heard maybe like 1-2 stories where they didn't though, HOWEVER they did have mental problems, so all this information combined my conclusion is that forgiving a cheater will only cause you further pain
Also cheating IS only if the other partner is opposed to it (For example open relationships, that ain't cheating since they're fine with it)
And since she said she would tolerate if he cheated once or twice that means she's opposed to it
If a person forgives a cheater that means they are desperate to try to make the relationship work, which can be called "stupidity" (Not stupid as in low intelligence, just a stupid decision)

 

[Ludd_]

Doesn't matter if the marriage is arranged or not; it's still a real marriage.

Just checked the definition, so by definition it isn't cheating, if it's an arranged marriage it's not a romantic relationship. It's just a marriage

"Cheating, also known as infidelity, is when a person in a monogamous romantic relationship has an emotional or sexual relationship with someone else without their partner's consent."

 

[orangerain7734]

I'd be more worried if the woman said they're 'okay' with the man they're with cheating 'once or twice'.

Sometimes, having even one of them bring up the idea of polyamory/polygamy usually means they're already doing it without the other knowing. I like reading about harems, but I know well enough that such relationships are rarely, if not never successful.

 

[AnotherDuck]

Not really though?

Yes really. As I said, it was never about forgiving, since forgiving is something that happens after the fact. Now, how you define "cheating" may or may not make it a bad word choice, but you can be opposed to something and tolerate it.

It's also not necessarily desperate. A lot of people aren't exactly strict about exclusivity, which isn't necessary to make a relationship work.

And if we're talking about this particular case, there's no problem. I think she was either joking and/or trying to give him some room to breathe, so he didn't feel stuck or that he wasn't allowed to interact with other girls.

Just checked the definition, so by definition it isn't cheating, if it's an arranged marriage it's not a romantic relationship. It's just a marriage

Yeah, no. You're cherry picking your definition.

Oxford: "(of somebody who is married or who has a regular sexual partner) to have a secret sexual relationship with somebody else"
Cambridge: "to have a secret sexual relationship with someone who is not your husband, wife, or usual sexual partner"
Merriam-Webster: "to be sexually unfaithful"
vocabulary.com: "not faithful to a spouse or lover"

As I said, if they're married, it's cheating. Arranged or not does not matter.

 

[Ludd_]

Yeah, no. You're cherry picking your definition.

I quoted the literal first google search result so what you on about?

Oxford: "(of somebody who is married or who has a regular sexual partner) to have a secret sexual relationship with somebody else"
Cambridge: "to have a secret sexual relationship with someone who is not your husband, wife, or usual sexual partner"
Merriam-Webster: "to be sexually unfaithful"
vocabulary.com: "not faithful to a spouse or lover"

Now this is cherry picking mate, this doesn't even specify anything or have any kind of detail
By this definition people in open relationships would all be cheaters, which is wrong, it says that if you have a "regular sexual partner" and have a secret sexual relationship with someone else that's cheating, like bruh what? So if you have a friend with benefits and have sexual relations with someone else is that considered cheating now???? These are like the worst definitions


Also I looked through a lot of different definitions on different sites and they ALL specify romantic relationship

Yes really. As I said, it was never about forgiving, since forgiving is something that happens after the fact. Now, how you define "cheating" may or may not make it a bad word choice, but you can be opposed to something and tolerate it.

It's also not necessarily desperate. A lot of people aren't exactly strict about exclusivity, which isn't necessary to make a relationship work.

You just ignored all of my points except one, and cheating isn't just about "exclusivity" it's about breaking their trust ,
and people that break that trust in the first place have mental problems, so sticking with them is not a good idea

As I said, if they're married, it's cheating. Arranged or not does not matter.

Oh also let me rephrase that, their marriage is a marriage for convenience, and not for love (I mean she loves him but that's not the reason why they married, I mean she had hidden intentions but he doesn't know that and thinks it's just a marriage of convenience) so technically it's not cheating since they're not in a romantic relationship

 

[blablablub]

Bro coming up with those saves didn't deserve the "He's an idiot, though" treatment.

 

[JaxunHero]

FEEED IT THROUGH MY VEINS!

 

[nanimuwu]

Guys, none of you are talking about the maths. It's actually coherent. I'm actually impressed.

 

[Wolvenworks]

I uh…forgot that bit of algebra. My brain’s a bit cooked now, and I don’t understand the problem.