Fukushuu o Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru - Ch. 133

[StormSen]

Within reason, you can't blame someone who was raised in a society for being influenced by that society just like you can't blame a fish for swimming

Yep, choices are made within the context of the ethos taught by society. And the ethos that Vickie was raised in was clearly quite brutal.

But in a brutal society, a basic rule is "If I attack someone, then they might counter-attack me." I.e. "If I do something horrible to someone, then they will likely do something horrible to me if they can." I.e. there's still blame and retribution in brutal society.

 

[Xelarion]

I mean.. she already suffer no? Humiliation, death, rape? Eaten alive and still live through it. Even removing the goddess and priestess curse what left?.

Well we do have one option left.. MC impregnate her, makes her have a male child she loves..and then blend it in front of her breaking her as form of vengeance. Or redemption and the sister returns and forgive her and in the after life she a mom with her son and im guessing husband? Idk. But redemption should be best option.

Did ever explain were the sister soul went?

Suffering from the sense of a punishment is not always so cut and dry. Speculating on what Raoul might continue to do is pointless at the current stage, and basing it on her past torture is also meaningless given that we already know that he has only killed people who deserve death, including the Goddess of Love.

Victoria made her own choices, but with his mastery over magic and keen analytical sense, Raoul has proven that he has been aware of many people's true pasts and has the detachment to judge their lives equally--he is not some mindless sadist looking to inflict as much nonsensical pain as possible, that's not what revenge is.

Ignoring your bad grammar and spelling, I'm honestly disgusted you decided to jump straight to child-killing as a choice, even as an example. It shows you have the worst priorities, nevermind that you haven't actually been paying attention to the manga.

Raoul's sister was not in hell, otherwise he would have found her the moment he stepped into hell originally. She's likely already part of the reincarnation cycle, if not somewhere in the gods' domain. The people who can do anything in this series are the gods, or the living, and Raoul's sister has not once personally made an appearance--the torture for her ex-husband was a magic illusion set to infinitely repeat until his soul truly repented.

 

[-Minchen-]

I wonder if the gods will use Raoul's sister to toy with him. They felt extremely stupid so far but maybe at least the main god is on a similar level of power and smugness (that he can actually back up with something) as Raoul.

And I still don't get how people compare Victoria's case with our world. We don't have gods and saints messing with us. Every human has dark thoughts and most people don't want to act upon them. Imagine if every kid saying to their parents "I hate you, I wish you were dead!" on a childish whim would actually cause their parents to die. We restrain ourselves but the gods took that away from Victoria.

Child Victoria was very much was Raoul was looking for, a pure soul. So I assume he will give her some sort of chance to prove herself and maybe forgive her, like he said. She is special in some way after all.

 

[Grye]

the author just loves misery

 

[NIB]

I don't know about y'all but I've forgiven Victoria already

Good for you, but I'm not. I can understand that she's a victim in the story, since both sides (humans and gods) used her to torment Raoul to death, but that doesn't excuse the fact that her personality is horrible and the things she did to Raoul are disgusting. She was indirectly responsible for Raul's sister's death and his entire family, and that's unforgivable in my book. Screw that bitch.

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Well, that's nobility to you. One day you're a commoner living a normal life, and the next a king or queen is after you to kill you just because they feel like it. Nice snow white reference btw.

 

[Dubbman11]

Good for you, but I'm not. I can understand that she's a victim in the story, since both sides (humans and gods) used her to torment Raoul to death, but that doesn't excuse the fact that her personality is horrible and the things she did to Raoul are disgusting. She was indirectly responsible for Raul's sister's death and his entire family, and that's unforgivable in my book. Screw that bitch.

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Well, that's nobility to you. One day you're a commoner living a normal life, and the next a king or queen is after you to kill you just because they feel like it. Nice snow white reference btw.

Actually, she's only responsible for his sister, his niece, and/or nephew. His mother, that one was on the general, which all of it was on Christina and the goddess

 

[Dubbman11]

I can only hope that author gets over with this stupid Victoria Whitewashing Arc as soon as possible so that we could now move on to more important stuff, like the Raul vs Parthenon Gods and shit.

You never know what we're seeing might be the key Raul needs to take her down. He is dealing with a fertility goddess.

crazy theory time: we all know the king of Kutz was suffering from some illness that drained his life, maybe a curse, which is why he used that artifact to keep himself alive, but what if the queen was also cursed with it, but the king saved himself? seeing that the queen hated Victoria and her mother. What if, to save herself, the queen left an imprint of herself and attached it to Victoria, like what the Joker did to Tim Drake? Still, Victoria unknowingly kept it suppressed until the goddess and Christina messed with her head, unleashing it. Maybe it is part of the reason Victoria had her siblings killed because the queen told her to do it, out of revenge for the king having kids with mistresses.

I'm only coming up with this theory because at this point, who hasn't messed with that girl's head

 

[controlCopy]

The author trying to brainwash the readers with Victoria's cuteness just because Raoul make her his wife.

 

[0Zion]

Victoria was manipulated. She was a pure soul. This is brought to you by Victoria propaganda.

 

[Nekoriz]

Redeeming Victoria ❌️❌️❌️
Redeeming her mom, valentine ✔️✔️✔️

 

[Flostirend]

Yep, choices are made within the context of the ethos taught by society. And the ethos that Vickie was raised in was clearly quite brutal.

But in a brutal society, a basic rule is "If I attack someone, then they might counter-attack me." I.e. "If I do something horrible to someone, then they will likely do something horrible to me if they can." I.e. there's still blame and retribution in brutal society.

Well it's more like they lack ethics studies and their morals got based on power. Since the gods actively reward abuse and punish collaboration it's natural that they ended in that way. If this ends in a redemption arc, Hero Raul is just balancing the world, an autohealing feature of the universe.

 

[Dzrian]

Redeem it by rewinding time and saving her mother. Can’t be bad if she can’t exist

 

[GotMagicCrack]

New to the series. Is this an actual harem? And does anything happen to the mc’s girls while they’re with him? Like rape or ntr or some shit ?

 

[reGAPTCHO]

Nuuuuuuuu I'm all caught up T_T now I got to wait for more lore.

So I was right about the the whole curse thing huh so lett me guess.... a god created the curse or something? That land itself is just cursed? Is this the work of that goddess?

This author loves throwing curve balls at us and we know Theo.... well no matter how much speed reading he does he won't make it...unless she has offensive spells or abilities but now that we know it was her doing she probably made her body "accepting" to advances.

New to the series. Is this an actual harem? And does anything happen to the mc’s girls while they’re with him? Like rape or ntr or some shit ?

Err why not just read it for a few chapters to see if you'd enjoy it or not?

...whatever I guess lol, no its not a harem its a revenge manga its all about a hero who was wronged and wants revenge just incase you go back and read it yourself im not going to spoil you so I'm leaving it at that.

 

[LordMeric]

Suffering from the sense of a punishment is not always so cut and dry. Speculating on what Raoul might continue to do is pointless at the current stage, and basing it on her past torture is also meaningless given that we already know that he has only killed people who deserve death, including the Goddess of Love.

Victoria made her own choices, but with his mastery over magic and keen analytical sense, Raoul has proven that he has been aware of many people's true pasts and has the detachment to judge their lives equally--he is not some mindless sadist looking to inflict as much nonsensical pain as possible, that's not what revenge is.

Ignoring your bad grammar and spelling, I'm honestly disgusted you decided to jump straight to child-killing as a choice, even as an example. It shows you have the worst priorities, nevermind that you haven't actually been paying attention to the manga.

Raoul's sister was not in hell, otherwise he would have found her the moment he stepped into hell originally. She's likely already part of the reincarnation cycle, if not somewhere in the gods' domain. The people who can do anything in this series are the gods, or the living, and Raoul's sister has not once personally made an appearance--the torture for her ex-husband was a magic illusion set to infinitely repeat until his soul truly repented.

Yea my grammar bad. But the child blending was a refrence to another fuck up work i seen. Personally is trauma dumping mix with humor but is brand remmber SHE wanted a perfect child and all that.. But if you also being watching this manga your not saint. Soo keep your sanctimonious speech for self.

Also oh snap did forgot the husband got punish? Damn need reread this.

 

[Xelarion]

Yea my grammar bad. But the child blending was a refrence to another fuck up work i seen. Personally is trauma dumping mix with humor but is brand remmber SHE wanted a perfect child and all that.. But if you also being watching this manga your not saint. Soo keep your sanctimonious speech for self.

Also oh snap did forgot the husband got punish? Damn need reread this.

Reading this isn't the same as trying to justify the worst possible answer as feasible just because "muh manga has torture, gore, and blood". If Raoul was willing to rape for revenge, it would have happened by now--don't pretend we're sitting in the same seats just because we're watching the same program. Victoria has already had her womb completely crushed, her kingdom destroyed, and her father summarily executed: all by Raoul's hands.

There's genuinely no place for any extremely redundant torture like restoring her womb just to kill any babies produced from it. Thinking of the idea is entirely on you for not paying attention the first time.

 

[LordMeric]

Reading this isn't the same as trying to justify the worst possible answer as feasible just because "muh manga has torture, gore, and blood". If Raoul was willing to rape for revenge, it would have happened by now--don't pretend we're sitting in the same seats just because we're watching the same program. Victoria has already had her womb completely crushed, her kingdom destroyed, and her father summarily executed: all by Raoul's hands.

There's genuinely no place for any extremely redundant torture like restoring her womb just to kill any babies produced from it. Thinking of the idea is entirely on you for not paying attention the first time.

Wait that what trigger you? Me guessing what fuck up punishment he would do next?. We already seen kids dying. like a whole town, some twins and and even demon slave kids. But let be honest. Doesnt even have be a real baby he can just torment her with illusions.

at less he didnt lock her in a cage and switch her skin with a bear lol.