GATE - Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri - Ch. 127

[MangaDex]

 

[HartSkai]

Is there a side I should be rooting for? 'cause at this point I'm rooting for MC and friends to get more panel time

 

[alacaelum]

The JSDF dropped the ball with this air operation.

They got too big of a head and forgot that just because they had superior technology, this world still has resources that don't follow the logic of our world by the letter.

This doesn't mean those empire soldiers will win, still far too much of a difference, but they are catching losses that they could have avoided.

We haven't seen Itami and Co much for some time now, I understand why and don't mind because this conflict goes beyond them, and now that Lelei was kidnapped things may turn back.

 

[Kaarme]

That order to withdraw suddenly is causing casualties to accumulate. When all is said and done, realistically some generals will have to face the consequences, even if they don't need to cut their own stomachs anymore in the modern Japan. Actually, I guess they won't face any consequences. Who ever heard of anyone getting punished due to the whole Fukushima catastrophe, even though it was 100% caused by corporate greed and negligence? The few executives ever facing charges were acquited by the court. It's almost macabre that Japan, which is famous (or infamous, however you view it) for seppuku, is these days nothing but one more in the big group of countries where a crime big enough is not actually a crime anymore.

 

[sassinos]

They got too big of a head and forgot that just because they had superior technology, this world still has resources that don't follow the logic of our world by the letter.

Not just that, but they are fighting a losing army that still has the will and desire to fight; one of the most dangerous. Ironic that they didn't even consider the possibility of a wyvern kamikaze attack. Even if they take out all the Imperial troops, modern ideology would probably consider this a losing battle with the death-toll already taken.

 

[StealthAria]

That order to withdraw suddenly is causing casualties to accumulate. When all is said and done, realistically some generals will have to face the consequences, even if they don't need to cut their own stomachs anymore in the modern Japan. Actually, I guess they won't face any consequences. Who ever heard of anyone getting punished due to the whole Fukushima catastrophe, even though it was 100% caused by corporate greed and negligence? The few executives ever facing charges were acquited by the court. It's almost macabre that Japan, which is famous (or infamous, however you view it) for seppuku, is these days nothing but one more in the big group of countries where a crime big enough is not actually a crime anymore.

It's more similar to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, they're rushing to get everyone back to Almus even if it means leaving behind equipment. No one ended up actually taking responsibility for that one either, even as the decision continues to cause casualties.
At least in the case of Fukushima, the same group that was responsible for not listening to the warnings is now the one that is being held responsible for the cleanup.

 

[Phire453]

The kill Roy was here joke is pretty funny.

 

[dowiet]

tactical retreat with much needless casualties

 

[ciera]

Thanks for the update

 

[Nuggz]

That one guy was right, if ur so close to the fucking capital why stop and retreat when said area ur ordered to retreat to is miles and miles away. You're not gonna make it back in time for the order to be lifted. Just take it and wipe out the army around the capital. Jesus Christ that's one hell of an inadequacy

 

[1234muse]

also the fact that they didn't bother to have anti-air cover for helicopters is absolutely something they are getting punished for- helicopters notoriously almost always lose against dedicated anti-air units. but here it's a little questionable
if they're faster(which they should be) they should easily be able to keep out of reach of Melee units

 

[RWorld]

Page 6, I feel bad for Pina.

Spoiler

That will be the last time she'll see the both of them alive.

 

[screamdoom]

Useless gunner, use those 50s

 

[DangerousZombie]

I know no one cares but I don't know what it is is but the last few chapters just ain't hitting. I don't know if the arc as been going on to long or if the novelty of it ran out for me but after this chapter I'm honestly kinda tempted to drop this and comeback when its finish.

 

[Akinak]

The JSDF dropped the ball with this air operation.

They got too big of a head and forgot that just because they had superior technology, this world still has resources that don't follow the logic of our world by the letter.

This doesn't mean those empire soldiers will win, still far too much of a difference, but they are catching losses that they could have avoided.

All I see is author trying to create at least some tension and sense of danger making JSDF do stupid things. Why helis were so close to ground to allow being ambushed into fucking melee range? Are we Avatar now? No radars? No thermals?

also the fact that they didn't bother to have anti-air cover for helicopters is absolutely something they are getting punished for- helicopters notoriously almost always lose against dedicated anti-air units. but here it's a little questionable
if they're faster(which they should be) they should easily be able to keep out of reach of Melee units

Just fly like 1000 m above the ground, it's not like Empire have modern AA weapons you need to avoid.

I know no one cares but I don't know what it is is but the last few chapters just ain't hitting. I don't know if the arc as been going on to long or if the novelty of it ran out for me but after this chapter I'm honestly kinda tempted to drop this and comeback when its finish.

I am the same, I completely forgetting who those non-Itami's squad Japanese are and I really do not care what happens to them.

 

[Kisato]

For half a second I thought Pina full on frenched her.

 

[lolzninja4]

They really aren't hiding the Battle of Cannae reference by calling the battlefield Cannade.

 

[Amariithynar]

That order to withdraw suddenly is causing casualties to accumulate. When all is said and done, realistically some generals will have to face the consequences, even if they don't need to cut their own stomachs anymore in the modern Japan. Actually, I guess they won't face any consequences. Who ever heard of anyone getting punished due to the whole Fukushima catastrophe, even though it was 100% caused by corporate greed and negligence? The few executives ever facing charges were acquited by the court. It's almost macabre that Japan, which is famous (or infamous, however you view it) for seppuku, is these days nothing but one more in the big group of countries where a crime big enough is not actually a crime anymore.

The original design basis tsunami height was 3.1 m for Daiichi based on assessment of the 1960 Chile tsunami and so the plant had been built about 10 metres above sea level with the seawater pumps 4 m above sea level. The Daini plant was built 13 metres above sea level. In 2002 the design basis was revised to 5.7 metres above, and the seawater pumps were sealed. In the event, tsunami heights coming ashore were about 15 metres, and the Daiichi turbine halls were under some 5 metres of seawater until levels subsided.

A report from the Japanese government's Earthquake Research Committee on earthquakes and tsunamis off the Pacific coastline of northeastern Japan in February 2011 was due for release in April, and might finally have brought about changes. The document includes analysis of a magnitude 8.3 earthquake that is known to have struck the region more than 1140 years ago, triggering enormous tsunamis that flooded vast areas of Miyagi and Fukushima prefectures.

In short, this was a once in a thousand, if not ten thousand, year tsunami. While it was known that there was a possibility of a worse situation, and they had been deliberating it, there was no impetus to do something immediately, because it was such a low chance of occuring. Then it happened. I don't think you can reasonably blame anyone for negligence on such a low possibility event occurring. The court was right to uphold the acquittal, as a tsunami of the size that hit the plant was reasonably unforeseeable and the executives could not be held negligent. It's hard, I know, but sometimes no one is to blame for something shitty that happens. Yes, higher seawalls and higher watertight measures could have stopped the damage, but there was no reason to think it necessary on a logical basis; greed doesn't even have to factor in, but it certainly would have supported the logical conclusion, because those costs would have been passed on to the public, too.

That one guy was right, if ur so close to the fucking capital why stop and retreat when said area ur ordered to retreat to is miles and miles away. You're not gonna make it back in time for the order to be lifted. Just take it and wipe out the army around the capital. Jesus Christ that's one hell of an inadequacy

They're thinking of their soldiers not being able to make it back, and that scares them. It's not just a, "our base is being attacked, we gotta hope they can keep it safe" thing, it's an, "we could be stranded in this foreign world for the rest of our lives" thing.

also the fact that they didn't bother to have anti-air cover for helicopters is absolutely something they are getting punished for- helicopters notoriously almost always lose against dedicated anti-air units. but here it's a little questionable
if they're faster(which they should be) they should easily be able to keep out of reach of Melee units

They've had massive air superiority throughout the MONTHS of conflict, they didn't expect a sudden counterattack that popped up that closely to them, as they'd gotten arrogant; they acknowledged it was a very risky play to do this and went ahead with it anyways, thinking nothing could get them, and now they're paying for it. As for the helicopters, they look to be Huey Iroquois, which only have a max speed of 127 mph when fully laden; the wyverns can match that, I have little doubt. Many predator birds can exceed that drastically, and they're much smaller in form, so cannot generate as much thrust; they have to rely on thermals leading into dives to reach that speed.

 

[radstylix]

127 chapters in and FINALLY the JSDF is starting to get some actual casualties, or if I'm wrong, the best chapter depicting their loses. They've always felt too invincible to me so the JSDF curbstomping them every time has been boring. Better late than never I guess.

I'd be surprised if they lost a majority, if not a punishing amount of their airforce, for both sides.

 

[G-P]

This feels like it is starting to drag on. There are good stories out there that manage to stay below 50 chapters.