Houkago wa Kenka Saikyou no Gyaru ni Tsurekomareru Seikatsu Kanojo-tachi ni Sukarete, Boku mo Saikyou ni!?

[MangaDex]

 

[MrSargent]

Once again I appear around here to post some links
The author's twitter Aitsu/亜逸:
https://twitter.com/assyukushoot
Kakao (which is credited as the artist, of the novel?):
https://www.pixiv.net/users/581994
https://twitter.com/kakao_3percent

Can't find any for Aoyagi Takao, at least the one for this manga and not a person with similar name from the 70s.

 

[tseng]

Once again I appear around here to post some links
The author's twitter Aitsu/亜逸:
https://twitter.com/assyukushoot
Kakao (which is credited as the artist, of the novel?):
https://www.pixiv.net/users/581994
https://twitter.com/kakao_3percent

Can't find any for Aoyagi Takao, at least the one for this manga and not a person with similar name from the 70s.

Kakao is credited as character design/キャラクター原案, which is the usual credit they give to LN illustrators for manga adaptations since they aren't really involved in them (aside the mangaka doing the art based on them, sometimes)

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

Hasn't been much movement in the novel's EN TL in a while, so I'm hopeful this will last long enough to pass it up.

 

[Beymeer]

It has the harem theme is it really harem if so I'm finna drop this

 

[Hexxy]

Yeah I liked the first chapter but then noticed it has harem as a theme, I sincerely hope it doesn't have a harem after having a pretty interesting base premise

Why tf harems gotta ruin everything

 

[Andasen]

God damn it, Harem tag, i thought i was going to found something half decent

 

[calice]

Author asked "what if Drillbit Taylor were a cute gyaru instead of Owen Wilson?", and put that shit on paper

 

[RenzellXDD]

this is why i stopped reading Manga, this shit is too cringe and why tf are weak pathetic heroic MC still a thing? this is why Manwhas are better and sooner or later the Anime will be based on Manwha

 

[DreadKaiser]

this is why i stopped reading Manga, this shit is too cringe and why tf are weak pathetic heroic MC still a thing? this is why Manwhas are better and sooner or later the Anime will be based on Manwha

because the entire premise wouldn't really work if the MC wasn't weak, he clearly isn't pathetic as he has a spine and is presumably not going to be weak for long.

meanwhile the opposite of having a strong, cool badass is equally done to death. you only got so many character archetypes to work with here

 

[SacrdLuum]

because the entire premise wouldn't really work if the MC wasn't weak, he clearly isn't pathetic as he has a spine and is presumably not going to be weak for long.

meanwhile the opposite of having a strong, cool badass is equally done to death. you only got so many character archetypes to work with here

You might be right, but his "I don't want others to suffer, it was my fault." mindset is just bad. people who think like that are just wimps. also him getting stronger will just make this another of those "done to death" stories you were talking about.

BUT, there's only one chapter out, so we'll see.

 

[darktennisball]

🥱 😴

 

[Giga]

because the entire premise wouldn't really work if the MC wasn't weak, he clearly isn't pathetic as he has a spine and is presumably not going to be weak for long.

meanwhile the opposite of having a strong, cool badass is equally done to death. you only got so many character archetypes to work with here

@RenzellXDD wasn't wrong, here. There are stories that have done weak-to-strong in superb fashion (Shijou Saikyou no Deshi Kenichi is one of the absolute best examples ever), but this one is starting off horribly. Where the parenthetically referenced Kenichi has the titular protagonist start off weak, at least that guy had a masculinely strong will; this guy, on the other hand, is so weak and milquetoast as to be submissively effeminate. The mangaka even depicts the MC clutching his fist to his chest the same way troubled female characters do at least twice. As for the MC having a spine, that is barely the case: right before he executed that kick to the bully's abdomen was the second of those chest-clutching moments, and the kick itself was done with the MC's eyes squeezed shut. He might have done what was right for someone else's sake, knowing that it'd mean pain, but virtually everything else he'd done in this chapter was steeped in feminization.

This is only the beginning, and Karin has resolved to teach him how to fight, but there's yet another potential element of feminization: the MC's victory came from the strength in his legs that Karin noted. Under normal circumstances, this wouldn't be noteworthy, as the human lower body is typically stronger than the upper. However, the story is presenting this (potentially, again) as his source of strength--when men are typically possessed of stronger upper bodies than women, and Karin had (as you could see) no trouble using hers. In other words, the mangaka--should he keep going in this direction--will make the MC a kick chick. It does not have to go in this direction, but--like I said--the story had Karin make special note of such strength, as if the MC didn't or couldn't have it elsewhere.

And these days, mangaka are apparently discouraged from writing physically strong (through physical development--not through magic, while having thin bodies devoid of musculature) MCs, or hate to write it themselves; masculinity is not popular in manga--there's no way the "strong, cool badass" can be done to death in manga because every MC in recent years is leveling mountains just by waving a hand at them and looking like they could have been in a visual kei band.

 

[Alcion]

I find it funny you're equating masculinity with bulging muscles. Nah, dude, you have the cart before the horse, even though its only an indirect association. You aren't masculine for having bulging muscles, but you do tend to get muscles doing things that are considered masculine. Heres an obvious example: an indecisive pansy isnt suddenly any more masculine if they start roiding up. The steroids may induce personality changes due to hormonal changes, but that has nothing to do with the muscles.
So its funny that I agree with your first paragraph about his depicted personality (though that may change as its pretty common for these types of characters to start gaining confidence and will as needed to defend others as they train up), but the second part about muscles and fighting technique training style I disagree with. To bring up your own example, Kenichi gets trained by both Miu and Shigure, but that doesn't make him feminine. WTF are you even trying to imply with "kick chick" lol. Its like you think men aren't allowed to kick. I really don't think I need to reference real life kicking techniques used by men.

 

[MisterMemeDaddy]

Sigma male more like sigma balls

 

[comedyxtragedy]

The story is fun until I see harem tags.


They should gave focus on action or adventure

 

[Asiandesu]

You might be right, but his "I don't want others to suffer, it was my fault." mindset is just bad. people who think like that are just wimps. also him getting stronger will just make this another of those "done to death" stories you were talking about.

BUT, there's only one chapter out, so we'll see.

Tbf, bullying in Japan is kinda insane and if this guy has been putting up with it for years, a guy with a strong sense of justice but whose been continuously beaten down MIGHT develop emotions like that.

The thing that doesn't do it for me is that there's one top dog in the academy that CLEARLY hates bullying and kicks the shit out of any bullies and the mc just goes "nah, she might get hurt" like bro I know you saw the panel where she just 1v5 a group of guys ain't no way you think she can't help you out.

 

[ImNotCreativeEnoughtForThese]

The title sounds pretty cool but why are all of these titles harems ffs

 

[Giga]

I find it funny you're equating masculinity with bulging muscles. Nah, dude, you have the cart before the horse, even though its only an indirect association. You aren't masculine for having bulging muscles, but you do tend to get muscles doing things that are considered masculine. Heres an obvious example: an indecisive pansy isnt suddenly any more masculine if they start roiding up. The steroids may induce personality changes due to hormonal changes, but that has nothing to do with the muscles.
So its funny that I agree with your first paragraph about his depicted personality (though that may change as its pretty common for these types of characters to start gaining confidence and will as needed to defend others as they train up), but the second part about muscles and fighting technique training style I disagree with. To bring up your own example, Kenichi gets trained by both Miu and Shigure, but that doesn't make him feminine. WTF are you even trying to imply with "kick chick" lol. Its like you think men aren't allowed to kick. I really don't think I need to reference real life kicking techniques used by men.

I'm used to people misinterpreting what I say in order to attack my position--but I'm not so sure about your reply. It sometimes seems like simple--though apparently ignorant--disagreement, and at other times does not appear to be in good faith. Let's go over each part.

Spoiler: For length.

I find it funny you're equating masculinity with bulging muscles. Nah, dude, you have the cart before the horse, even though its only an indirect association.

I'm not merely equating masculinity with "bulging muscles". I assert that high muscle mass is a product of masculinity--and indeed it is, because it's only males that are naturally capable of such due to their being the only ones with the male sex hormone testosterone in sufficient quantity to allow that kind of development. Physical strength is natural to men, not to women, and this is why; the average woman would have to employ extraordinary effort--and even make use of supplementation--just to match what an average man can achieve without it. Therefore, muscularity is a masculine trait. And no--exceptions do not disprove rules.

None of this is esoteric knowledge--it's common...or should be. Or are you next going to tell me that deep voices aren't masculine? That breasts aren't feminine? How about facial hair? Shows up on some unfortunate women, but normally grows from male faces--not masculine?

Heres an obvious example: an indecisive pansy isnt suddenly any more masculine if they start roiding up. The steroids may induce personality changes due to hormonal changes, but that has nothing to do with the muscles.

Indeed, such a pansy is no more masculine of character if he uses drugs to gain muscle mass--but he is most definitely more masculine of form/overall physical state. The distinction is clear and indelible--and again, this is obvious.

To bring up your own example, Kenichi gets trained by both Miu and Shigure, but that doesn't make him feminine.

Here begins not only a misinterpretation of what I said, but also--which makes it flagrant--your taking my points out of context. Nothing about what I said, when taken in its entirety, would imply that Kenichi was feminine for being trained by Miu or Shigure--and indeed, that wasn't what I was trying to say. Your misusing my example in a context of your own devising implies the contrary, however.

WTF are you even trying to imply with "kick chick" lol.

I won't begin to try guessing what you thought I was implying by saying that, because you've already demonstrated a will to misrepresent my position, and believe me: if you are, it wouldn't be the first time on these forums--or anywhere else--when the topic of difference between the sexes comes up.

In accordance--and concurrently--with the natural greater capacity for muscular growth in males, males naturally have much more upper body strength than females do, with women closing that massive gap via the difference in lower body strength. In other words, women have a much easier time building and employing lower body strength than upper, which is what makes kicking a much more viable form of combat for a woman than anything using her natural upper body strength. And because it is more viable, a woman can become combat-effectively proficient in such combat far more easily than she can using the alternative; the alternative would effectively be a handicap for her--on top of her lesser natural suitability for physical combat.

Hence, "kick chick". This is not rocket science. (I get the idea I've had to use those exact same words on someone else regarding this very same topic...)

Its like you think men aren't allowed to kick.

Perhaps that's what you're thinking. You're free to think that--just know that it isn't what I said or meant, and therefore you cannot present it as such.

What I DID say was that the author, in the narration, made a point of having Karin specifically present the MC's lower body as a special point of combat effectiveness for the MC--and this is after the MC spent the entire chapter, even up to that point, acting effeminately (and certainly in contrast with Karin herself). This, finally, is in the knowledge of the fact that the MC is male, and Karin is female--with all the factual physiological consequences that entails. These, together, entail an implication that is none too kind to the MC as a male--but is miserably common throughout today's manga.

Context is important, you see--and it's why you can't simply take one part of what someone says out of the rest and expect that one extraction to serve as a reliable representation of someone's position; indeed, it's also why so many would do just that in an attempt to discredit someone he or she opposes.

 

[Alcion]

I don't know why you're trying to defend yourself by, for the most part, agreeing with me. You shouldn't assume disagreement means an attack on your person.