Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 25 - Before Dawn

[EnFiveFour]

Thank you for the translation!

 

[Virtualplayer]

The author owes NO ONE anything.

It's his story. Don't like it? Drop it from your MDList.

I don't get why readers who don't like it are still here. Your time and your energy are better spent following or reading something you like. Honestly.

The feedback here is never going to reach the author. They have SocMedia channels you can use for that purpose. Using those at least, would be both cathartic and somewhat effective. MD Forum though? Not so much.

 

[MKA2401]

big deal. HOW IS THIS NTR

 

[noleafclover75]

The author owes NO ONE anything.

It's his story. Don't like it? Drop it from your MDList.

I don't get why readers who don't like it are still here. Your time and your energy are better spent following or reading something you like. Honestly.

The feedback here is never going to reach the author. They have SocMedia channels you can use for that purpose. Using those at least, would be both cathartic and somewhat effective. MD Forum though? Not so much.

We owe you nothing either. You're not anybody special. I think I'll continue to comment on this story and how awful the story telling is tyvm 😊

 

[Aezeryel]

What a twist! Why are people calling it NTR, when the guy was A)Single and B) too much of a wimp to even be thinking of getting with Hikari? It's not like having a previous partner ruins your future partners.

Cause people are dumb and will call anything that isn't wholesome romance NTR, despite it not being NTR 90% of the time.

 

[SadMookz]

Calling everyone whiners is bad faith interpretation of reasonable frustration to a questionable direction in a story.

I'm of the opinion that if you don't like a certain medium, you should just disengage. The frustration in Chapter 21 was reasonable, but it's been two months since then.
Anyone still leaving comments that bash the story without offering any real critique, instead of just dropping it, is a whiner.

This is the chapter that made me stop caring to clarify. I'm only sticking around to see if they find a satisfying conclusion with the wiggle room they've provided themselves. A grim curiosity of a writer. Doesn't necessarily mean that I care. I believe that there is always something to learn from a piece of art or media even if I personally don't care for it, mostly just sticking round cause I'm too far in like I said. If the series had something that happened at the start, I would've dropped it without hesitation otherwise but we're about halfway there, or maybe close to the end, who knows.

You're invested, sticking around and learning from it as a piece of art/media.
Not 'caring' would imply dropping and forgetting it, but I guess we're splitting hairs at this point.

I don't think we're anywhere close to the end, but who knows.

There isn't really any meaning to it, no? It can either go in a route that has unnecessary drama that turns one or all of the characters into unlikeable people. Have the possibility of going in the direction that is most likely to lead to an unsatisfactory ending by having the FL find someone else that we don't know shit about which multiple romance mangas of similar purposes in telling their story in such a way has done before.

[...]

We've had hundreds of stories already of girls who were too late. I don't really see the purpose on adding another to the pile.

Now I'm curious. What other 'hundreds of stories' do you know of, that are so similar to this, that this story doesn't deserve to be told?

Again, I don't understand this question of, "How did he become this person?" when he isn't that different to begin with. You're proposing the question like he's become this wisened-chad from his days during the flashback rather than it just being normal maturity over time.

Really just my assumption based on the timeline that he matured from the wimpy little brother character into someone Hikari fell in love with, because of his relationship with Ayami.
Imo, he does seem different now compared to his flashback self.
But yes, that could just be regular maturity over time.

Also, even if the term can't be applied to the quality of the story, it's sort of objective that the situation itself is a trainwreck, no? lol

A trainwreck would be Gal☆Cleaning!, 'trash' something like Tsuihou Suru Gawa no Monogatari or Seikishi no Ore.
These deserve their spot among the 10 lowest-rated titles on this site.

This story is at worst 'controversial', but I guess we're talking semantics again.

People are explaining what they think to be wrong with it. You don't see those things as wrong. It's about as simple as that.

Nope, just went through the thread again: Every single instance of 'bad writing/badly written' is used to justify their dislike for the twist, no details as to what is bad about it.
I also noticed that it's actually just the same two guys yapping about 'bad writing' over and over again, not multiple people.
So, I'm probably overblowing the issue by giving the vocal minority too much weight.

There's zero chance people will change their minds here because the author did this in a very polarizing way.

That's the saddest part about all of this - no amount of discussion is going to change anybody's mind

And I still stand by shamelessly attempting to shift the audience in her favor, to the point he made her a virgin and put out a comment about this on twitter.

Lmao! Bro knows after 20 years of otaku death mail that non-virgins are illegal

 

[javajulien]

As controversial as the turn has been, it is pretty hilarious just how much the discussion of this series have actually popped off since it happened lol

 

[Lioslin]

Wowee I left this on the backburner at ch 9 and decided to catch up with this series when this chapter popped up in my sub feed. That sure was a trip

 

[LuckyThePirate]

its like every chapter the rating goes down by another half point lmao (6.5 as of this post) remember this was over 9 before the cuckening.

 

[Bounce]

Idk how she managed to catch up with him in time and kiss him. I'm all for a proactive girl tho.

I wonder why they broke up? Will he ghost her after post-nut clarity hits him? Can't wait to find out.

 

[Fredgreninjao]

Take the amplified (what the fuck) and the reversal (prime bullshit), then smash together those two different expressions of infinity to create and push out imaginary mass.

Imaginary technique: what the fuck is this. Kill yourself



https://packaged-media.redd.it/f3jg...00&s=3bbe36bd692ec10135da14e95c6fc519b27fb0c1

 

[imperionero17]

IT'S SO FUCKN PEAK!! I LOVE IT

 

[Retconned]

How many chapters until the whiners are filtered?

 

[teppro789]

The author owes NO ONE anything.

It's his story. Don't like it? Drop it from your MDList.

I don't get why readers who don't like it are still here. Your time and your energy are better spent following or reading something you like. Honestly.

The feedback here is never going to reach the author. They have SocMedia channels you can use for that purpose. Using those at least, would be both cathartic and somewhat effective. MD Forum though? Not so much.

The problem for me right now is that all of the people who are just hearing about this series for the first time through negative social media posts are review bombing and tanking its score down to 5-6 without even reading through all the chapters from the start, and will probably never change or remove their bad ratings in the future because they don't really care that much. I know MD score doesn't matter that much for people who just enjoy reading what they like, but for newcomers looking for new series to read, the score is an important factor which decides whether a series is worth getting in at first glance. This is just sad seeing all the unpromted hate the author is receiving just because their story simply didn't go the way part of the readerbase (and random outsiders) think it would go. It's not a bad development at all, and I seriously think this plot twist made this manga a lot more interesting now than the first 20 chapters.

 

[xiaxueyi]

this entire thread reeks of a lot of virgins who also rage quit when stuf like (It's not Meguro-san's first time) came out. lmao most people don't go through life with their cherry intact or without contact with the opposite gender.

I only know folks from a certain religion who will literally froth the moment they hear a girl is not a virgin anymore and these guys are no different, lmao.

 

[xiaxueyi]

Seconding this, I just read all of the chapters after seeing a tweet talking about how the author "dropped a nuke" on the series (and I have never heard of this before today), and to be honest, the hate this series is getting is overblown. Sure the plot twist can be and is polarizing, but if you really think about it, calling this an "180 spin" or "NTR-esque development" is simply stupid and dumb.


Right from the start until chapter 21 we've all been seeing the world through Hikari's POV, and I believe this was intentional for building up to this flashback arc. In other romcom series like Kaguya-sama, Uzaki-chan or Sono Bisque Doll, readers have multiple perspectives into the characters lives and thoughts, but that's not the case here. So throughout the story, we've only known about Hikari and her views, and clearly there're many hints that showed that she doesn't know everything about Yuu, because after all up until this point, she's still just a childhood friend of Yuu. All that feelings of her towards him? All in her head, and the roundabout way she acts around Yuu does not help her case here. Again, there's no real "romantic relationship" here to be "ruined", nor did Yuu "cheated" on Hikari. I do not get the "NTR-esque" accusations some people are putting on this series. The latest chapters (and some readers actually failed to realize this) are a flashback from a year and a half ago (ch.22's name is literally "It Happened, A Year, and A Half Ago"). This flashback arc and the events during it does explain Ayami's action in the end of ch.21, but it does not mean the story is "ruined" since we don't even know what Hikari's doing/thinking during this time. Maybe she haven't even harbored those feelings for Yuu yet. We don't know that yet, and maybe it will be explained in future chapters. Again, there's no "NTR" because the potential romance hasn't began, and the characters haven't known about that potential romance yet.


Now, I can understand the frustration of readers who have been followed this series since chapter 1, who began reading this thinking it would be a normal wholesome romcom series, because it has been 9 months from ch.1 to this point. 9 months for 96 pages does indeed sound very poor, and the author/publisher should've done better with the pacing of this. The whiplash can undoubtedly be felt for the ones who were emotionally invested in this series for a long time. But in my opinion, the story hasn't concluded yet, we're still only on ch.25, and I can see multiple routes that this storyline can go on. Don't judge too hastily, and let the author have time to tell it fully. And to all the new readers that are being introduced to this series through negative tweets and comments, I recommend you read this from the start, and you might come to the same conclusion as me.

we can't expect coomers to think rationally, probably better chances of winning in lottery or memecoins

 

[Yasakamegurine]

uh... where the childhood friend at?

 

[noleafclover75]

Typical argument, calling people incels or virgins just because they don't like a poorly written piece of fiction. I'm sure that really stings the people who are down-ranking it 🤣.

There are better ways to cope with that. Like just enjoying the series and buying it's volumes when it comes out.

There are series I like with awful ratings but I still enjoy them, I can at the same time recongnize they're not written very well.

 

[Ariqrabbani17]

Okay but can we move on? I swear the author put too much effort into this flashback instead of the main plot...wait, is the main still remain as the "main" one anymore? I'm confused.

This is the main plot but we just restarted from earlier timeline. Just look at it like Abby's campaign on TLOU2.

 

[Ariqrabbani17]

I was expecting that this is goin to be a normal teen romance with slice of life comedy, like usual romcom manga,

I'M SO FLABBERGASTED

why are you expecting that in the first place?