Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 37 - Confession

[HellJester]

But they call BS when I say this ☠️ people just want a morally questionable dude who only fucks another girl to be the main character. They don't give a fuck whether he's doing shitty things, they are just here for the drama. And that's so questionable, especially after knowing how the manga was developing until chapter 20ish 😐. How the fuck can you like Yuu? Genuinely. He's a piece of shit who tried to get over his crush with a girl he randomly met on the street while telling that exact chick how in love he is with his childhood friend. Like, what the fuck is this writing? 😭 And how can he be such a piece of shit? They call us stupid for thinking that it's definitely WRONG to go around fucking other people while you preach to them how in love you are with SOMEBODY ELSE.

I know this comment section is full of retarded people and we can see that everyday. I mean, there are Yami defenders. But damn, they really can't understand that fucking ANOTHER GIRL while preaching to her how much he ALREADY loves somebody else is SO. FUCKING. WRONG. Some people just don't deserve to EVER have partners.

I think the big problem with Yuu (or rather past Yuu - both right before he met Yami and during their relationship) is that he kind of just went with the flow of things. He doesn't make too much of an effort to change his status quo.

You see it when he's in the cafe in Chapter 23 talking with Yami. We know from backstory that Yuu and Hikari were in school together up to the end of middle school and Yuu made absolutely zero attempts to convey his romantic feelings despite feeling them for quite some time. He made excuses about not feeling like he's at Hikari's level but that's just bullshit he tells himself because he's too scared to make changes.

Then we find out he's put some self-imposed hurdle for himself that he needs to get into the high school Hikari is gunning for as if that will somehow magically fix all his problems. It won't. He still wouldn't have the guts to confess.

Page 8 of Chapter 23 is a great example. He mentions it's his fault for not pulling his weight until now and if he knew how much regret he would feel for not getting in he would have tried more desperately. Yami even mentions on the next two pages how foolish Yuu is being and how small of a deal his not getting into the same high school is. Think about it. Yuu and Hikari still live next door to each other, they're still friends and Yuu would still have plenty of opportunities to see Hikari and make some progress but he gives up the first time he stumbles.

So now he's wallowing in self pity after not really trying that hard to change his situation and he allows himself to go with the flow and be taken to a love hotel with Yami who's trying to pull him down to her level because she's self-destructive at this point. To be fair, he's I believe either 14 or 15 years old at this point and while it's been some time since I was that age, I remember being so full of hormones that I, too, would have probably allowed a cute 16 year old girl to take me to a hotel damn the consequences. Some of y'all underestimate how much boys going through puberty are ruled by their dicks.

Fast forward to Yami and Yuu actually dating and you see more examples of him just going with the flow. He knows something is up with Yami's home life but does jack shit about it other than a brief mention. He allows himself to just go with the flow of Yami's lame excuses. You would think after how long they'd been dating that he would either know more about her home life or make an effort to know. Instead, he's just coasting along and letting Yami steer the wheel of the ship.

Honestly, what we really need is a Yuu POV which we haven't gotten yet. Most, if not all, of our questions would be answered. My fear is that the author is going to make the next dozen or so chapters another flash-back but from Yuu's perspective and we're not going to get an answer to Yuu's confession for 6 months.

 

[someonewhodraws]

How about you fuck off and die, ta kun?

 

[Rafalga]

Yuu made absolutely zero attempts to convey his romantic feelings despite feeling them for quite some time. He made excuses about not feeling like he's at Hikari's level but that's just bullshit he tells himself because he's too scared to make changes.

Just want to clarify something. Hikari herself said she would reject him if he confessed during middleschool since she says she didn't see him as a man until recently. And Yuu probably picked up on it.
(Following part is present in the webnovel but not the manga-->)She was literally playing middle man for Yuu and the othergirls who wanted to confess to him and was wondering why he would always reject them.

He was %100 right to think that confessing or pushing progress would fail and might have even damaged their friendship. And he was correct. You can't really fault him for his reluctance when the otherside is this detected from you romantically.

 

[HellJester]

Just want to clarify something. Hikari herself said she would reject him if he confessed during middleschool since she says she didn't see him as a man until recently. And Yuu probably picked up on it.
(Following part is present in the webnovel but not the manga-->)She was literally playing middle man for Yuu and the othergirls who wanted to confess to him and was wondering why he would always reject them.

He was %100 right to think that confessing or pushing progress would fail or might even damage their friendship.

Totally agree.

It's funny because back then both Hikari and Yuu were clueless in their own ways (and still clueless in a lot of respects). Hikari had no idea Yuu liked her and Yuu, rather than make any attempts to get himself to a point where she'd consider him romantically, just gave up without trying.

I think that's central to why some people on here are so fervent with their hatred of Yuu. The guy claims to have held these feelings of love for Hikari for so long but he never really does anything. He stops making attempts the first time he hits a roadblock (not getting into the same high school), then he hooks up with the first girl that shows him interest. Later as he dates Yami, he states he loves her and now in this latest chapter he states he's always loved Hikari. I can see how some people on this board would want to crucify Yuu but I attribute that to being young and just not having enough life experience (or reading comprehension lol).

Look at the first few chapters of this manga where Yuu has been broken up with Yami for quite some time and Hikari is finally noticing Yuu romantically. If we take the latest chapter at face value and assume Yuu never lost his romantic feelings for Hikari then we have several chapters of Yuu just going along with whatever Hikari wants and not really doing anything.

She comes to his room to hang out - he doesn't make a move. She invites him to an amusement park - he doesn't make a move. They run into classmates from their old middle school who express disbelief that Hikari and Yuu aren't dating - he doesn't make a move. So on and so forth.

The only time he's been proactive is this latest chapter and like many people have speculated, I also believe it has something to do with his meeting with Yami. I would not be surprised if she spurred him into pursuing Hikari. This is right up Yami's alley with "sacrificing" herself or her happiness because she feels she doesn't deserve to be happy romantically after blowing up her mom's marriage.

 

[mug3n]

I do feel like it's more likely that he didn't sort out anything and he's just clinging to his feelings towards Hikari in an attempt to clear out his mind from whatever happened with Yami, I don't have any proof other than that's what I think is the kind of character the author wants for this story.

My bet is he now is set on being with Hikari and whatever happened with Yami in the classroom helped him to clear his doubts. If this was going to be a more typical romance manga, Yami would push him and give her blessings to them, but there is a possibility of wanting to be with Yami but being rejected and go to Hikari as seconds and be a total loser scumbag. The problem is we don't know that much about what his train of thought is but he hasn't been upfront about certain things with Hikari and for what I've been told about this author, it seems he likes his undecisive scumbags in his romances. Either way, I'm more of the opinion of Hikari should just Naruto run as fast as she can. We'll see.

 

[story645]

Some of y'all underestimate how much boys going through puberty are ruled by their dicks.

Also, while I understand the hate Yuu gets for sleeping w/ a girl he just met, some folks just really don't think of sex as something super special that's only done w/ the person they love & like that's also an acceptable worldview so long as they're on the same page as the person they're sleeping w/.

If this was going to be a more typical romance manga, Yami would push him and give her blessings to them, but there is a possibility of wanting to be with Yami but being rejected and go to Hikari as seconds and be a total loser scumbag.

Option 3 is Yami made a move and that solidified that no he really wants Hikari and isn't gonna take the easy go w/ the flow route. Which would be the desperately sought for character growth from him.

Which like Yami wanting him to choose her over Hikari is stock insecure girl (especially other woman) writing. And functionally how their relationship went the first go around - Yami was pretty certain he was in love w/ Hikari but never forced the conversation b/c that could've confirmed her fears (or given him the opportunity to ease her insecurities).

 

[mug3n]

Also, while I understand the hate Yuu gets for sleeping w/ a girl he just met, some folks just really don't think of sex as something super special that's only done w/ the person they love & like that's also an acceptable worldview so long as they're on the same page as the person they're sleeping w/.

We cannot have that in The Internet, sir, everything has to be black or white. I condemn you with no bitches for having a nuanced view.

Which like Yami wanting him to choose her over Hikari is stock insecure girl (especially other woman) writing. And functionally how their relationship went the first go around - Yami was pretty certain he was in love w/ Hikari but never forced the conversation b/c that could've confirmed her fears (or given him the opportunity to ease her insecurities).

That's... possible xD the author really wants to make her very dirty given what has happened until now with her.

 

[Litreara]

@mug3n @story645

I think you guys are onto something here. Looking back at chapter 25, Yuu totally just goes with the flow when Yami, on an impulse, kisses him:

And then in chapter 21, once again, Yami, on an impulse, kisses Yuu:

But it seems that, this time, Yuu didn’t go with the flow—he went the ‘I love Hikari.’ route, which shows character growth.

Man, knowing how much Maruto loves his parallels, I can totally see him posting the follow-up to the chapter 21 kiss with something like, ‘I’m linking chapter 25 here for no specific reason.’, just like he always does.

 

[noleafclover75]

Also, while I understand the hate Yuu gets for sleeping w/ a girl he just met, some folks just really don't think of sex as something super special that's only done w/ the person they love & like that's also an acceptable worldview so long as they're on the same page as the person they're sleeping w/.



Option 3 is Yami made a move and that solidified that no he really wants Hikari and isn't gonna take the easy go w/ the flow route. Which would be the desperately sought for character growth from him.

Which like Yami wanting him to choose her over Hikari is stock insecure girl (especially other woman) writing. And functionally how their relationship went the first go around - Yami was pretty certain he was in love w/ Hikari but never forced the conversation b/c that could've confirmed her fears (or given him the opportunity to ease her insecurities).

I don't hate Yuu for sleeping with Yami, they were both in a very vulnerable spot and I think Yami took advantage of the situation to bring someone down to her level. While I hate the sudden jump to that from a pacing and writing perspective. There are moments I genuinely liked. For example, when they slept together the first time. Instead of her bringing him down to her level, she found someone to bring her up. The problem was, in my opinion, is that she really didn't know how to respond well to that. She actively fought any happiness in her life because it was foreign and she did not respond well to it. She found her happiness through sex, lies, and self destruction. While sex in itself is not a bad thing, when combined with the other two it's a disaster waiting to happen.

I do think Yuu loved yami, but probably not in a way that I would consider true love. He loved that she got him out of his rut and that he got to experience a different world view. That journey is necessary sometimes to see how to get to the place in life you want to be.

I'm not saying Yuu won't end up with Yami or Hikari. I need more background information on what's going on. But on face level currently, I think Yuu has gotten over Yami and after his journey he knows for sure what he wants.

While I hate how this story was presented and released. I think it had the potential to be great instead of mediocre imo. There are really good story elements in this tale.

 

[noleafclover75]

@mug3n @story645

I think you guys are onto something here. Looking back at chapter 25, Yuu totally just goes with the flow when Yami, on an impulse, kisses him:

And then in chapter 21, once again, Yami, on an impulse, kisses Yuu:

But it seems that, this time, Yuu didn’t go with the flow—he went the ‘I love Hikari.’ route, which shows character growth.

Man, knowing how much Maruto loves his parallels, I can totally see him posting the follow-up to the chapter 21 kiss with something like, ‘I’m linking chapter 25 here for no specific reason.’, just like he always does.

I always noticed this too. He was always walking on eggshells around her. And the time that he said he was falling in love with her never felt genuine to me, i think he loved her but not in a fully romantic way.

 

[story645]

While sex in itself is not a bad thing, when combined with the other two it's a disaster waiting to happen.

Yeah, like I had pages of arguing that Yuu/Yami was a toxic mess b/c they were both conflict averse immature insecure kids, so I felt like a good chunk of their communication was passive aggressiveness disguised as teasing/light conversation. (Been thinking a bit on how "Gal in my class who treats me like air" is a nice contrast - primarily physical intimacy but they hash out all the important things).

But on face level currently, I think Yuu has gotten over Yami and after his journey he knows for sure what he wants.

Yeah, like one of things I find puzzling is the argument that Yuu easily got over Hikari by dating Yami but didn't get over Yami by spending the past year or so with Hikari. If anything, I think it'd be easier for him to get over the girl who ghosted than the girl who has always been there.

 

[Dawniscoming]

I think the big problem with Yuu (or rather past Yuu - both right before he met Yami and during their relationship) is that he kind of just went with the flow of things. He doesn't make too much of an effort to change his status quo.

You see it when he's in the cafe in Chapter 23 talking with Yami. We know from backstory that Yuu and Hikari were in school together up to the end of middle school and Yuu made absolutely zero attempts to convey his romantic feelings despite feeling them for quite some time. He made excuses about not feeling like he's at Hikari's level but that's just bullshit he tells himself because he's too scared to make changes.

Then we find out he's put some self-imposed hurdle for himself that he needs to get into the high school Hikari is gunning for as if that will somehow magically fix all his problems. It won't. He still wouldn't have the guts to confess.

Page 8 of Chapter 23 is a great example. He mentions it's his fault for not pulling his weight until now and if he knew how much regret he would feel for not getting in he would have tried more desperately. Yami even mentions on the next two pages how foolish Yuu is being and how small of a deal his not getting into the same high school is. Think about it. Yuu and Hikari still live next door to each other, they're still friends and Yuu would still have plenty of opportunities to see Hikari and make some progress but he gives up the first time he stumbles.

So now he's wallowing in self pity after not really trying that hard to change his situation and he allows himself to go with the flow and be taken to a love hotel with Yami who's trying to pull him down to her level because she's self-destructive at this point. To be fair, he's I believe either 14 or 15 years old at this point and while it's been some time since I was that age, I remember being so full of hormones that I, too, would have probably allowed a cute 16 year old girl to take me to a hotel damn the consequences. Some of y'all underestimate how much boys going through puberty are ruled by their dicks.

Fast forward to Yami and Yuu actually dating and you see more examples of him just going with the flow. He knows something is up with Yami's home life but does jack shit about it other than a brief mention. He allows himself to just go with the flow of Yami's lame excuses. You would think after how long they'd been dating that he would either know more about her home life or make an effort to know. Instead, he's just coasting along and letting Yami steer the wheel of the ship.

Honestly, what we really need is a Yuu POV which we haven't gotten yet. Most, if not all, of our questions would be answered. My fear is that the author is going to make the next dozen or so chapters another flash-back but from Yuu's perspective and we're not going to get an answer to Yuu's confession for 6 months.

I so completely agree with you 😭 I hate him for not trying and wallowing in self-pity when he did absolutely nothing (as far as we know) to convey his feelings. That's all there is, not to mention how he says he loved Hikari but still has sex almost daily with a chick he met on the street while preaching how much he already loves somebody else... That's shitty and self-destructive behavior but hey, if people don't wanna see it and still call BS, I don't really care, it's a pretty badly written story and, most of all, it's just a FICTIONAL story

 

[Daktyl]

He loved Hikari but with Yami he worked to get over Hikari..Hikari had him in the friendzone until a year ago. Any man would have tried to move forward after being stuck as a non love interest to the girl youve been pining for. Hikari has tried to set him up with other girls. He develops actual feelings for Yami and that's why when she ghosts him it's hard for her. They shared their difficult circumstances and moved forward with each other. So Yuu's done nothing wrong except lie about the Yami kiss to avoid a hurtful conversation.

Hikari didn't have him in the friendzone. He never really tried to get his feelings across to her. And if he use Yami to get over his love for Hikari, why is he suddenly confessing to Hikari? Clearly he never really got over her.

So either he used Yami while still being in love with Hikari the whole time, or he's confessing without still being in love with Hikari.

 

[animan095]

God bless authors that make official endings for all their heroines

 

[ChicagoRot]

Ethics in Anime Kissing 102: Childhood Friends vs. Casual Hookups

 

[story645]

while preaching how much he already loves somebody else...

I'm fully onboard w/ he's a chicken for not asking Hikari out, and that Yuu/Aya is a toxic self destructive mess, but he doesn't preach about how much he loves somebody else. When they meet, he talks about Hikari as a close friend/rival/motivation for taking the exam and how he wants to be on the same level as her. It's Aya who says he's in love w/ Hikari & he denies and she pushes and his response seems like he's either not actually sure of what he felt for Hikari or not ready to admit it.

So either he used Yami while still being in love with Hikari the whole time, or he's confessing without still being in love with Hikari.

So I've written before on how I think he was a terrible boyfriend for Aya, but I also don't think he was being malicious - I think he was legit falling for Aya or telling himself that he was falling for her, while having lingering feelings for Hikari that he thought were a dead end. Mostly it read a lot more like immature/inexperienced teens jumping into the deep end of a relationship w/o knowing how to swim.

 

[lolfacesayshi]

Hikari didn't have him in the friendzone. He never really tried to get his feelings across to her. And if he use Yami to get over his love for Hikari, why is he suddenly confessing to Hikari? Clearly he never really got over her.

So either he used Yami while still being in love with Hikari the whole time, or he's confessing without still being in love with Hikari.

She did have him in the friendzone, and he didn't use Yami. They were both at their low point (regardless of how serious it is for him as compared to her), and found camaraderie and companionship. He thought that Hikari was a lost cause (again, regardless of the actually good odds he had at the time because he didn't know that), and decided to stick with Senpai who he thinks needed him, since she was clearly spiralling into dark areas. HE THINKS these things, and he decides his course of action based on what he knows.

His childhood friend friendzones him. He is determined to enter the same school as a way to prove himself, maybe to her, maybe to himself, that he is good. He fails. He meets senpai, who is DEEP in a dark place. She wants to drag him down, but this boy's head is too buoyant. They both float, neither rising not sinking, until she cuts him off. Now he has to reevaluate his life because the one person he thought he had a connection with disappeared. In this low moment, he realizes that he likes Hikari, after all, or something. Cut to current.

Some y'all acting like the guy is a super genius. Some y'all acting like he doesn't have a brain. Maybe reality is somewhere in the middle?

EDIT: also reminder that yes, they slept together the first time they met. But they didn't do the do immediately. They just cried.

 

[nogoodsumbeach]

Option 3 is Yami made a move and that solidified that no he really wants Hikari and isn't gonna take the easy go w/ the flow route. Which would be the desperately sought for character growth from him.

This option would make more sense over option 2 purely because yami wont go for the kiss if she is the one who reject yuu, instead of yuu rejecting yami imo

When they meet, he talks about Hikari as a close friend/rival/motivation for taking the exam and how he wants to be on the same level as her. It's Aya who says he's in love w/ Hikari & he denies and she pushes and his response seems like he's either not actually sure of what he felt for Hikari or not ready to admit it.

What you say here is very interesting you know. What if you are right and by this point in time, yuu is not sure about his feeling about hikari or has not realise his feeling for her.
Like we always assume the title of this manga is tied to Hikari and her situation, but what if its also for Yuu and his situation lol

 

[story645]

He thought that Hikari was a lost cause (again, regardless of the actually good odds he had at the time because he didn't know that), and decided to stick with Senpai who he thinks needed him, since she was clearly spiralling into dark areas. HE THINKS these things, and he decides his course of action based on what he knows.

I dunno that he picks up much on her spiraling given he's not sure what to believe from her. But also, despite not thinking the 'ship is particularly good for either of 'em, I think sticking w/ each other 'cause they make each other feel wanted/needed is more less how Aya sees her mother operating/is a standard pattern.

What you say here is very interesting you know. What if you are right and by this point in time, yuu is not sure about his feeling about hikari or has not realise his feeling for her.

Pretty sure @GennArc pointed this out first when I was arguing the other side (Yuu was a coward for hiding taking the exam from Hikari).

 

[HellJester]

I dunno that he picks up much on her spiraling given he's not sure what to believe from her. But also, despite not thinking the 'ship is particularly good for either of 'em, I think sticking w/ each other 'cause they make each other feel wanted/needed is more less how Aya sees her mother operating/is a standard pattern.


Pretty sure @GennArc pointed this out first when I was arguing the other side (Yuu was a coward for hiding taking the exam from Hikari).

OMG I think y'all are right. What if past Yuu wasn't actually in love with Hikari or at least not aware of it? His trying to get into the same high school was really just him admiring Hikari and wanting to follow in her footsteps/be close to her.

That's why he doesn't see anything wrong with the fact that he jumps into bed with Yami right away. He's not in love with Hikari (or at least not aware of it) so he doesn't see it as a betrayal.

It's not until after Yami ghosts him and he's had time to process everything that he realizes what he's felt for Hikari all this time is love. That's why he's been putting up with Hikari's awkwardness and all of her hesitation and sticking around. His hesitation to go to her school event is not because he's afraid of running into Yami because he still loves Yami. He doesn't still love her. He hesitates because he thinks Yami is going to throw a wrench into his incredibly incredibly, INCREDIBLY slow courtship of Hikari. And Yami does blow things up although Yuu isn't aware of it yet.

This whole time we thought the title was in reference to Hikari falling in love with Yuu but it's really been about Yuu falling in love (or finally realizing his love) for Hikari. It's too late because Hikari and Yami have grown super close and Hikari won't want to jeopardize her friendship. We're going to get an arc where Hikari sacrifices herself for Yami thinking that Yuu and Yami belong together while at the same time Yami is going to sacrifice herself for Hikari thinking Yuu and Hikari belong together.

Look in past chapters how hard Hikari fought for Yami. No matter what Yami threw at her, Hikari didn't give up. Not even after the sugar daddy dating debacle. Now look at how quickly Hikari gave up on Yuu. She didn't stop and confront Yuu after the kiss, she just ran away. When Yuu tracked her down she didn't talk about what she saw or tried to get any sort of explanation. She just kinda went with the flow and allowed herself to be swept along by the current.

We're probably in for several chapters of Yami/Yuu/Hikari thinking they're doing the right thing while colossally messing things up because no one is going to take the time to talk things out.