Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita
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This had me really, really hooked, but there'll need to be a huge amount of writing acrobatics to come back from chapter 33. I can't really fathom how somebody could possibly come back from something that despicable, messed up backstory or not...
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Stoped after author drop that backstory shit… I’ve never really into comments and criticism but it’s just too much of an unnecessary japanese promiscuity to be added on such a cute love story.. I’m fine with a bit of depressed backstory and if the author decides to keep it that way, I would never touch the comment section..
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I got whiplash after finding out this is drawn by the same guy who made Douki-chan but looks like it's adapted from a web novel and he's just doing the art.
There's a pretty evil bait-and-switch. After said switch it's pretty good, but mainly people are complaining about just the COMPLETE lack of foreshadowing. Absolutely 0 warning, so people who just wanted a comfy romance were kicked in the gut out of basically nowhere
Getting baited like that felt like getting baited by ntr, I'm forever trusting in the low ratings now lmao not taking the risk anymore after that little cuck show of a chapter( chap 20 ). Could've be a nice wholesome one but 180 into bland flashback drama sighhhh probably still gonna checkout the ending lmao but hopefully childhood girl finds a different romantic interest after seeing that mann, poor girl.
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Easily one of the worst stories you'll ever read but by god this is some of the most delicious slop ive ever feasted on.
i really need to blow off some steam and you, potential readers, better pay attention.
if the author is a clueless, socially inept, pretentious prick, he'd definitely end this story with a happy ending. yuu could end up with either one or with no one but the ending would definitely be positive.
his main idea would be: a story that tells the readers to accept both the joy and the abyss. pretty much a mahler 4. pfft! as if!
probably he thought that it's avant garde to mix two genres in the same story. hence, the two archetypical female protagonists along with the typical plots, tropes & vibes that accompany them. in high contrast.
we could extend the idea above to the author preaching: "the readers shouldn't stick to one genre because life ain't that way. stop enjoying your comfort zone. you don't have the right to dwell in any escapism of your own choice.".
but, this ain't a mahler 4 that tells the paradox of an elusive, childishly innocent, heavenly life and the abysmal dark nebulas just around the corner.
this is simply the world through the lens of an edgy pretentious japanese dude. why? because life itself ain't as black and white as what he'd told us through his story.
his characters are archetypes that he used as vehicles to deliver his message to us. hence, we got the dark character with her assortment of bad luck and the light character with all her sunshines & rainbows. do take note that these archetypes are archetypes in fictions, not in real life.
i mean, just think: what are the odds that things in this story truly happen to a character, let alone to a real person? have you met real japanese dudes or girls? they certainly ain't yuu, yami, or hikari. like, seriously.
just go to grad school in good universities in japan, e.g. kyodai, todai, hokudai, waseda, etc., you'll see real sheltered urban young japanese people there.
some are timid/awkward, while some others are pretentious as f*ck. most are generally good natured, though some can be quite ignorant to worldviews outside their own culture. well.. typical homogeneous society.
hence, this story is 100% engineered/designed.
bruh, the set up was quite obvious. i was not pissed because i felt like i got stabbed out of nowhere. i felt pissed because i actually could see the intent and the set up. i simply think that it's freaking patronizing, pretentious, arrogant but naive & clueless at the same time.
just take a look at the title. also, take a look at some of the chapter titles, e.g. "worst morning in history" & "gloomy, doomy". i mean it's quite obvious that those titles were written in retrospect. also, the tone of some of the drawings have some hints of darkness in hikari's chapters.
those are the clues, foreshadowing, or whatever.
the uber cheery hikari is one of the setup. also, yami's background stories & details that are just way too much & way too textbook. plus, the fact that yuu had changed after meeting yami and then as a consequence hikari suddenly got interested in yuu.
after hikari's & yami's, there's a high probability that we will get yuu's chapters later on. chapters that would justify him, yami & the plot. perhaps we would also get some "negative" details on hikari that could balance the situation later.
all of those sh*ts above are artificial constructs to convey a message and prove a point. it's because i noticed all that that i got so freaking annoyed with this manga.
because everything felt so intentional & constructed. too transparent & too blatant. it's like the author is openly preaching his ideals in an agora. just like socrates, plato & aristotle. pfft!
so, instead of empathizing with the characters & the story, you should see this story as an attempt to enlighten you, to criticize you, or maybe even to mock you.
he's not trying to give you a show (a morning k-drama or a sh*tty generic j-dorama). he's trying to invade you with his ideals.
knowing all that, you should judge the author and his story through the message that he wants to tell and through his execution of it. is his message truly that original? not really. is it well executed? i don't think so.
the messages in frieren can be quite naive & too optimistic sometimes but there's certainly a reason why frieren is so well regarded despite the blatant moralizing & preaching.
i could easily end this story in an idealistic japanese dude kind of way: turbulent storms followed by angst & melodramas, slow burn reconciliations, do-over friendships & relationships while still acknowledging everything that has happened, all characters become ubermensch, happy ending! pfft.
but, seriously, trust me that if this manga & the novel wouldn't get cancelled, there's a high probability that the plot would be a melodrama about overcoming all the sh*ts that had happened in order to reach that "ideal" happy ending.
also, f*ck the yuri baiting. this is one of the reasons why you can't simply mix two genres. you can't have romcom tropes, e.g. the semi-ecchi joke, the fluff & the mild yuri baiting, if you want this story to be taken seriously. this is one of the reasons why i truly loathe this manga.
you want to preach & deliver some serious stuff and yet you still decide to include all those banal romcom tropes. what f*cking a joke.
to be completely honest, what really irks me is the fact that i could just "torture" myself with re-reading war & peace or re-watching the human condition if i want some good preaching.
it really annoys me that this stuff is being sold as a commercial product. now i really want to see their sales forecast & reports. i also want to see the proposal that the author/editor gave to their superiors.
judging by the number of likes/favorites in the original source's website, it certainly fills a niche. though that small niche is dropping from 300+ to 200+. lately it's in the 100-200 range. if it goes to below 100 later then this story is certainly a bad business decision.
from now on, i really should just stick with "pure entertainment" when it comes to manga & anime. after reading, watching & knowing more stuff in life, my patience for edgy & patronizing authors is practically nonexistent.
i truly adore eva & lain and yet i can't endure this sh*tty manga lol
if the author is a clueless, socially inept, pretentious prick, he'd definitely end this story with a happy ending. yuu could end up with either one or with no one but the ending would definitely be positive.
his main idea would be: a story that tells the readers to accept both the joy and the abyss. pretty much a mahler 4. pfft! as if!
probably he thought that it's avant garde to mix two genres in the same story. hence, the two archetypical female protagonists along with the typical plots, tropes & vibes that accompany them. in high contrast.
we could extend the idea above to the author preaching: "the readers shouldn't stick to one genre because life ain't that way. stop enjoying your comfort zone. you don't have the right to dwell in any escapism of your own choice.".
but, this ain't a mahler 4 that tells the paradox of an elusive, childishly innocent, heavenly life and the abysmal dark nebulas just around the corner.
this is simply the world through the lens of an edgy pretentious japanese dude. why? because life itself ain't as black and white as what he'd told us through his story.
his characters are archetypes that he used as vehicles to deliver his message to us. hence, we got the dark character with her assortment of bad luck and the light character with all her sunshines & rainbows. do take note that these archetypes are archetypes in fictions, not in real life.
i mean, just think: what are the odds that things in this story truly happen to a character, let alone to a real person? have you met real japanese dudes or girls? they certainly ain't yuu, yami, or hikari. like, seriously.
just go to grad school in good universities in japan, e.g. kyodai, todai, hokudai, waseda, etc., you'll see real sheltered urban young japanese people there.
some are timid/awkward, while some others are pretentious as f*ck. most are generally good natured, though some can be quite ignorant to worldviews outside their own culture. well.. typical homogeneous society.
hence, this story is 100% engineered/designed.
bruh, the set up was quite obvious. i was not pissed because i felt like i got stabbed out of nowhere. i felt pissed because i actually could see the intent and the set up. i simply think that it's freaking patronizing, pretentious, arrogant but naive & clueless at the same time.
just take a look at the title. also, take a look at some of the chapter titles, e.g. "worst morning in history" & "gloomy, doomy". i mean it's quite obvious that those titles were written in retrospect. also, the tone of some of the drawings have some hints of darkness in hikari's chapters.
those are the clues, foreshadowing, or whatever.
the uber cheery hikari is one of the setup. also, yami's background stories & details that are just way too much & way too textbook. plus, the fact that yuu had changed after meeting yami and then as a consequence hikari suddenly got interested in yuu.
after hikari's & yami's, there's a high probability that we will get yuu's chapters later on. chapters that would justify him, yami & the plot. perhaps we would also get some "negative" details on hikari that could balance the situation later.
all of those sh*ts above are artificial constructs to convey a message and prove a point. it's because i noticed all that that i got so freaking annoyed with this manga.
because everything felt so intentional & constructed. too transparent & too blatant. it's like the author is openly preaching his ideals in an agora. just like socrates, plato & aristotle. pfft!
so, instead of empathizing with the characters & the story, you should see this story as an attempt to enlighten you, to criticize you, or maybe even to mock you.
he's not trying to give you a show (a morning k-drama or a sh*tty generic j-dorama). he's trying to invade you with his ideals.
knowing all that, you should judge the author and his story through the message that he wants to tell and through his execution of it. is his message truly that original? not really. is it well executed? i don't think so.
the messages in frieren can be quite naive & too optimistic sometimes but there's certainly a reason why frieren is so well regarded despite the blatant moralizing & preaching.
i could easily end this story in an idealistic japanese dude kind of way: turbulent storms followed by angst & melodramas, slow burn reconciliations, do-over friendships & relationships while still acknowledging everything that has happened, all characters become ubermensch, happy ending! pfft.
but, seriously, trust me that if this manga & the novel wouldn't get cancelled, there's a high probability that the plot would be a melodrama about overcoming all the sh*ts that had happened in order to reach that "ideal" happy ending.
also, f*ck the yuri baiting. this is one of the reasons why you can't simply mix two genres. you can't have romcom tropes, e.g. the semi-ecchi joke, the fluff & the mild yuri baiting, if you want this story to be taken seriously. this is one of the reasons why i truly loathe this manga.
you want to preach & deliver some serious stuff and yet you still decide to include all those banal romcom tropes. what f*cking a joke.
to be completely honest, what really irks me is the fact that i could just "torture" myself with re-reading war & peace or re-watching the human condition if i want some good preaching.
it really annoys me that this stuff is being sold as a commercial product. now i really want to see their sales forecast & reports. i also want to see the proposal that the author/editor gave to their superiors.
judging by the number of likes/favorites in the original source's website, it certainly fills a niche. though that small niche is dropping from 300+ to 200+. lately it's in the 100-200 range. if it goes to below 100 later then this story is certainly a bad business decision.
from now on, i really should just stick with "pure entertainment" when it comes to manga & anime. after reading, watching & knowing more stuff in life, my patience for edgy & patronizing authors is practically nonexistent.
i truly adore eva & lain and yet i can't endure this sh*tty manga lol
No. You just make some baseless assumptions about what the author wanted, convince yourself they are true and then get angry at them. Stop tilting at windmills.
What are you even talking about? Of course authors write chapters first, and only then come up with names for those.
bro, let's just agree to disagree here. i've read enough stuff to warrant all my tilting at windmills. even if it was cervantes's real intention, do you honestly prefer quijano to quixote? how dull. i'm actually honoring the author by giving his story a serious reading here.
i'm actually the one "risking" myself here by giving this story a serious consideration. but, since i know all too well that the risk is merely being pitied & ridiculed by anonymous people in the internet, i'd take that "risk" anytime.
if the author really doesn't have any serious intention just like what i said then this manga truly is a garbage. it's a mere hotchpotch of "thriller" (referencing the author's tweet) written by a person who doesn't really think too much of his story. he only thought that it's new, probably fun, and could impress his twitter (x) followers.
it's a no-win situation either way.
also, the numbers don't lie. his number of fans is dropping. but, he could regain them depending on how impressed they are with the upcoming arc.
oh, when i said in retrospect, i meant: written by the character in retrospect, not the author. from the character's perspective, not the author's.
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Pretty much my thoughts on this series.
Mate, I don't think even the concept of disagreement applies here. You just made up stuff about author's intentions, there is no way to prove something doesn't exist, especially when it's made-up.
The only thing I can say is, this is just a rom(com?) with a love triangle. It's a pretty simple genre, you know? It's not where you insert some moral teachings and lessons, it's just a way to explore characters, show their highs and lows, put them in some heartwarming and heartrending situations.
And thankfully, here the author isn't afraid to put characters through actual hardships, doesn't hesitate to hurt them or show their negative sides. It's funny to see complaints about bad story from people who are reading stuff like Ao no Hako or Anjou-san, where everything is as safe as possible. Where the whole drama revolves around misunderstandings, which the reader already knows about, where you can't even imagine any negative consequences or actual conflicts. Where everything is clearly predetermined, every character who was obviously written to "win" is gonna win, and losers will lose in a graceful manner.
And don't get me wrong, this story is far from perfect or complex. But most people complaining about it can't even formulate what's bad about it, they just repeat the same formulaic "criticism" like "bad writing", "bad pacing", "edgy" etc.
Still not following you here. What's wrong with Hikari figuratively calling that chapter "the worst morning in history" then? She was clearly unhappy with her own behavior and that's why she called it the worst, so what does that signify in your view?
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that's exactly why most soap operas are garbage, don't you think?
many soap operas and tv dramas for female young adults have love triangles. most shoujo mangas have love triangles too. they're usually about a naive, weak, meek, pitiable character vs. a strong & independent character (sometimes high strung, sometimes cold, but surely passionate in their own hot/cold way).
in a good love triangle, the readers empathize with both love interests and have relatively equal respect for both. it makes them truly wonder & contemplate about their very own ideal types.
most love triangles simply failed to achieve the above paragraph. they simply pit one vs. the other through never ending misunderstandings and deus ex machina.
do you honestly think that this story is a good love triangle? without the high contrast between hikari & yami and the "surprise" (or, perhaps, "thrill", as the author called it), this is exactly the love triangle that merely pits one vs. the other.
there's already quite enough allusions for the author's intention to tell us to accept/mix both the light & the dark. the dance panel in the latest chapter is practically a yin and yang symbol.
the author openly describing this story as a "thriller" is a nod to the fact that the "surprise" was intentional from the very beginning.
the "gloomy, doomy" and the "worst morning in history" are basically just like the "it's too late" in the manga title. they're simply cheeky puns from the author. they most likely have double meanings. that's why i previously used the words: twisted & sadistic.
there are plenty of mangas with love triangles and vulnerable, hurting characters out there. sometimes they have the romcom tag, but in actuality are melodramas with sprinkles of comedy. sasuga kei's & seo kouji's works are some of the popular examples for boys from the last decade. (they're mostly garbage)
romcom leans more on the comic side while melodramas lean more on the tragic side. unlike this manga, most mangas are relatively consistent with their tone. the readers are constantly reminded that they're reading a mostly sad, troubling, and potentially tragic story for example.
the author of this manga deliberately chose to shift the tone abruptly for the sake of "thrill". that's basically the original idea and perhaps the main selling point of this manga.
the flashback arc afther the "thrill" is basically where the readers should feel the "suspense" while learning more details about yami and things that justify her character.
it's all very intentional, don't you think? like i said, you could feel that it's 100% engineered/designed with certain preconceived objectives in mind. the pitting between light vs. dark and the "thrill" are obviously some of them.
now, you want me to empathize with these archetypical characters constructed for the author's convenience?
instead of wrting a love triagle that makes the readers voluntarily contemplate their preconceived ideal types on their own, the author literally chose to shove it to the readers and forced them to immediately collide their hikari & their yami. this is what i called patronizing.
all in all, the author is somewhere along the line between completely patronizing and being happy go lucky with his "thriller" pun. so, he's not always 100% intended to send a message to us. he's somewhere in between completely patronizing and shallowly pleasing his ego with his followers & his "innovative" story.
either way, this manga is surely bad.
also, do you really think the latest yuri baiting is necessary? it makes this story even more garbage than already is. what is even the point of the yuri baiting without proper groundworks? some people have mentioned it already: they only knew each other for about a month.
don't you think that the yuri bait is merely another artificial construct? to maximize the suspense and to make it even more bitter & painful. this is one of the reasons why i previously used the word "masochist".
there, i've tried to elaborate my & some of the other readers' perspectives for you. this will be my last comment on this manga. cheers, mate.
So far yes, it is.
Both heroines are likeable. Both have enjoyable (and different) interactions with the love interest. And in turn, his attitude with them is also very different. Both present their own perspective on love and the way they deal with it. Both have their positive sides and negative sides. And finally, both can actually win, there is no obvious winner just yet.
What double meanings? But I guess it's just another assumption which you use as a jab at the author.
I don't even know where to start.
Yes, Hikari and Yami, light and dark, were obviously written to be contrasting each other. If that's what you call "designed with preconceived objectives" then yes, that's right, though I fail to see how this is even worth discussing.
Outside of that contrast, the "messages" you insist the author is sending, the "preaching", "patronizing" etc. all exist only in your head. And unlike the aforementioned romcoms, which are clearly written with a predetermined outcome, this one seems like it could easily go in multiple directions. So what is "engineered" again?
The flashback is where the readers learn about Yami's past relationship with Yuu and learn more about them. I don't see any suspense in this, it's just introducing another character and giving them depth. There is nothing to "justify" either.
I don't think there is any yuri baiting.
Yes, and? People (especially young people) need much less than a month to become good friends if they enjoy talking to each other.
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8/10
Good art, pretty interesting story. Unfortunately, this manga was review-bombed, and is underrated as a result.
The plot takes an unexpected twist away from the "ideal" happy ending. I think it serves well as a warning about being overly passive in relationships, romantic and otherwise.
I, for one, am interested in seeing where it will go.
Thank you for the translations
Good art, pretty interesting story. Unfortunately, this manga was review-bombed, and is underrated as a result.
The plot takes an unexpected twist away from the "ideal" happy ending. I think it serves well as a warning about being overly passive in relationships, romantic and otherwise.
I, for one, am interested in seeing where it will go.
Thank you for the translations
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It is implied in the title, what did you expect "is too late" to mean?
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