Meiou-sama ga Tooru no desu yo! - Ch. 13

[Googloo]

Oh my goodness, these people are always so stupid, what the hell are you expecting with executing the friend/student of your enemy? Well, one things for sure, shu is definitely getting stronger after this. Oh wait, I just read the comments and now it makes more sense, the human's are just idiotic and arogant

 

[MontDilanus1343]

That said, mind spoiling me on the significance of Iris' parents? Them being important to Shu has me all sorts of curious.

Summarizing that implications are 2-3 arcs (100-200 chapters) in future.

Spoiler: Spoiler for implications of Iris' parents and the Church

• Iris' parents were as wholesome as she was. Church has three factions, two most major ones are "KIND: Humans should help each other, engage in charity in this harsh world" faction and "POWER: Kill all monsters on sight, retake the world from Monster Kings our bible-sworn nemesis" faction.
  • Iris' parents were former, leadership is latter.
• Iris' parents were on a monster patrol mission leading a squad, find a (sapient/veteran) Dullahan Knight living as a hermit in the forest.
  • The Dullahan years before saved/raised a society-abandoned Human male child.
  • Iris' parents' squad ""rescue"" the kid, who is begging them not to hurt the Dullahan, his "Dad".
• Iris' parents listen to the child, consider everything, and take the defense of the Dullahan Knight. They ask their squad to respect child's decision and leave the Dullahan Knight alone.
  • The rest of their squad turns on them as "monster collaborators/traitors" and kill Iris' parents in cold blood, kill the Dullahan Knight in front of the kid.
  • The Church conceals the events of what happened, merely telling Iris her parents "died in line of duty".
  • Iris is treated poorly as the "daughter of traitors", hence slurs thrown at her by nobles (and priests!) growing up.
  • This may be relevant to this action now: Church saying (overtly or covertly) "she's a traitor just like her parents".
• That Dullahan's child ends up being a super-powerful space-time magic mage who swears his entire life to revenge against the entire Holy Kingdom until its complete and utter destruction.
  • He becomes a douple-/triple-agent information broker using his teleportation powers -- working for his own ends -- as a Holy Knight raised within the Church. Alias "HAWKEYE (Takame)".
  • Moreover his hatred runs so deep he doesn't merely want to destroy the Holy Kingdom -- he wants them to destroy themselves through their own stupidity and arrogance -- like an Opera.
  • He is pseudo-immortal due to his space-time powers and works millennia architecting this. Including multiple coups, kingdom formations/dissolutions, defending and attacking the church as needed, to "set up" the events necessary
• By sheer chance Hawkeye unknowingly recruits Shu into a highly secretive Black Guild (world-power "Black Cat"). Shu formally becomes guild's assassin chair "REAPER (Shinigami)".
  • Hawkeye cuts a deal with Shu when he recognizes his power (to help him achieve his goal), and offers to be his exclusive information broker (double-agent for everyone else) in exchange for his help "causing the Holy Kingdom to destroy themselves".
  • In the end, after millenia, Hawkeye+Shu accomplish this and the complete genocide of the church. In the end, Hawkeye and Shu meet up in front of the grave of the Dullahan. And Hawkeye asks Shu to end his life and bury him next to his Father.

TL;DR: Iris' parents were as wholesome as Iris was. Got killed for it. Child they tried to save becomes plot-driving powerhouse who hires Shu to literally wipe the Holy Kingdom (that betrayed both Iris and him) off the face of the map -- in Operatic fashion.

Cue 300+ chapters of plot and the "Holy Kingdom arc" end.

 

[granted55]

oh shit

 

[king01701]

Prevent prophecy = true in future

 

[Nope21]

The more they buy into that stupid Mikohime prophecy the more they get closer to that reality.

The Miko did said that they have to choose carefully
And they choose death lol

 

[Quarnozian]

The national Church with miko's "two doors exist" prophecy was also bigoted and would never accept "coexistence door"

It wasn't that simple... "There are two gates. One is an orderly wooden door. And the other one is flesh and blood." There wasn't a clearly labeled "coexistence" door.

The people who heard her prophecy would think that eradicating monsters would lead to order, and letting monsters live would lead to chaos and bloodshed. With that prophecy alone, the only correct choice is to eradicate the monsters before they begin attacking humans.

Perhaps if they had used some way to clarify the prophecy, or maybe get a second prophecy that told the message in a different way, there might have been a way for them to realize that initiating the bloodshed is what leads to the bloody door rather than the orderly wooden door.

 

[Blacktart]

You can point out how dumb everyone is, but Iris is certainly the Queen of Smoothbrains.

she was backed into a corner hoping they understood but they did understand but in turn they think throwing more men at him will work no matter what god is on their side even when he isn't.

 

[Junomano]

The more they buy into that stupid Mikohime prophecy the more they get closer to that reality.

the miko wasn't stupid and the prophecy gave them 2 choices and they clearly going with the bad choice even further

 

[Junomano]

not sure if it was a good idea for her to stay on human side but oh well, incoming massacre

 

[SiraX]

Oh nyo... =^)

 

[Aratacchi]

"Oh no! We angered it! How will we deal with this?.. Wait, she says she's his friend? Better murder her to make him even more angry! That will clearly solve our problems!"

Humans☕

 

[MontDilanus1343]

Perhaps if they had used some way to clarify the prophecy, or maybe get a second prophecy that told the message in a different way, there might have been a way for them to realize that initiating the bloodshed is what leads to the bloody door rather than the orderly wooden door.

Spoiler from a (quite important) Miko far, far in the future:

Spoiler: Spoiler from the end of the "Holy Kingdom arc" 300+ chapters in:

No, the current Church knew. There were priests in the council arguing not to piss off Shu, they were just shouted down by the other power/glory-hungry Priests. The power-dyamics/internal-politics of the Church were desribed at length in the WN.

Even the greatest Miko of all time (and the last Miko, coincidentally) could do nothing against this bloodthirsty Church's stupidity.

Her foresight power wasn't "misinterpretable" like the Prophecy Miko here. Or subsequent Mikos who had future-telling power like "paintings", "poems", "music", "intuition", or "tarot cards" in the hundreds of years between then and her birth. The last Miko's powers were literal bidirectional time-stream knowledge, and hypothetical future viewing. And she saw all futures leading to ruin, thanks to the Church's arrogance no matter what she said or did.

Couldn't fight Shu or win (or other "Demon Kings" [sic: Shu/Hawkeye's plan to let Church become arrogant and destroy itself]). Couldn't run away (and survive). Couldn't stay (to stop the Church). All futures Church running head-first to ruin.

As a result she became incredibly despondent, didn't do anything, and didn't foretell any futures to the Church when they came to her (prison-like) room and asked. Always saying "It's meaningless."

In the end, the only path she saw where she could survive (along with some of humanity), was one where she slaved for the Church, until faking her own death, and running away/hiding (with a few crew survivors) in Laputa-esque warship above the clouds, while the world SCP-XK'ed itself with "Giant Warrior" taboo weapons, causing epoch-long nuclear winter.

So no. They knew the meaning of the "wooden door", and either (a) refused to, or (b) were psychologically incapable, of accepting it. Just as the author capstones with the Final Miko princess.

 

[Cenakaze]

Spoiler from a (quite important) Miko far, far in the future:

Spoiler: Spoiler from the end of the "Holy Kingdom arc" 300+ chapters in:

No, the current Church knew. There were priests in the council arguing not to piss off Shu, they were just shouted down by the other power/glory-hungry Priests. The power-dyamics/internal-politics of the Church were desribed at length in the WN.

Even the greatest Miko of all time (and the last Miko, coincidentally) could do nothing against this bloodthirsty Church's stupidity.

Her foresight power wasn't "misinterpretable" like the Prophecy Miko here. Or subsequent Mikos who had future-telling power like "paintings", "poems", "music", "intuition", or "tarot cards" in the hundreds of years between then and her birth. The last Miko's powers were literal bidirectional time-stream knowledge, and hypothetical future viewing. And she saw all futures leading to ruin, thanks to the Church's arrogance no matter what she said or did.

Couldn't fight Shu or win (or other "Demon Kings" [sic: Shu/Hawkeye's plan to let Church become arrogant and destroy itself]). Couldn't run away. Couldn't stay to stop the Church. All from running head-first to ruin.

As a result she became incredibly despondent, didn't do anything, and didn't foretell any futures to the Church when they came to her (prison-like) room and asked. Always saying "It's meaningless."

In the end, the only path she saw where she could survive (along with some of humanity), was one where she slaved for the Church, until faking her own death, and running away/hiding (with a few crew survivors) in Laputa-esque warship above the clouds, while the world SCP-XK'ed itself with "Giant Warrior" taboo weapons, causing epoch-long nuclear winter.

So no. They knew the meaning of the "wooden door", and either (a) refused to, or (b) were psychologically incapable, of accepting it. Just as the author capstones with the Final Miko princess.

great, now I feel bad about the miko

 

[ninjamz]

2x you doomed the world by doing something the girl told you not to do and not only that you proceeded to sentence her to execution now we multiply it again by 2 its 4x

 

[harukuro]

Come on!
There's no way that all of humanity at that time is too stupid enough to keep making more than once mistake!

 

[dezzot]

Not another NTR

She didn't stop believing in Shu even after all that happened. For a relationship like that, NTR is irrelevant. Whoever harmed her is minced meat anyway.

 

[vodspod]

Door #1: Death and destruction
Door #2: Pea...
Religious Order: "DOOR 1!!!! KILL!!!"

...i meant for you. well i guess it is your choice.

 

[vodspod]

Come on!
There's no way that all of humanity at that time is too stupid enough to keep making more than once mistake!

intelligence is highly stunted due to many factors that were an issue during the medieval period that we don't have as much of a problem nowadays. Just look at the average IQ over recorded history. One major aspect of intelligence is being able to consider things from the other person's point of view, to this day people are not able to do this and just label others as evil or bad. It is actually also very commonly an aspect of religion, where genocide is commonly seen as a good thing by holy books. I do agree however that there may be a handful of people that could understand the situation, but those are likely scholars and would prefer not to be executed themselves if they say something against the religion in power, after all such things were common historically with religions similar to this one.

 

[Vincentius]

Summarizing that implications are 2-3 arcs (100-200 chapters) in future.

Spoiler: Spoiler for implications of Iris' parents and the Church

• Iris' parents were as wholesome as she was. Church has three factions, two most major ones are "KIND: Humans should help each other, engage in charity in this harsh world" faction and "POWER: Kill all monsters on sight, retake the world from Monster Kings our bible-sworn nemesis" faction.
  • Iris' parents were former, leadership is latter.
• Iris' parents were on a monster patrol mission leading a squad, find a (sapient/veteran) Dullahan Knight living as a hermit in the forest.
  • The Dullahan years before saved/raised a society-abandoned Human male child.
  • Iris' parents' squad ""rescue"" the kid, who is begging them not to hurt the Dullahan, his "Dad".
• Iris' parents listen to the child, consider everything, and take the defense of the Dullahan Knight. They ask their squad to respect child's decision and leave the Dullahan Knight alone.
  • The rest of their squad turns on them as "monster collaborators/traitors" and kill Iris' parents in cold blood, kill the Dullahan Knight in front of the kid.
  • The Church conceals the events of what happened, merely telling Iris her parents "died in line of duty".
  • Iris is treated poorly as the "daughter of traitors", hence slurs thrown at her by nobles (and priests!) growing up.
  • This may be relevant to this action now: Church saying (overtly or covertly) "she's a traitor just like her parents".
• That Dullahan's child ends up being a super-powerful space-time magic mage who swears his entire life to revenge against the entire Holy Kingdom until its complete and utter destruction.
  • He becomes a douple-/triple-agent information broker using his teleportation powers -- working for his own ends -- as a Holy Knight raised within the Church. Alias "HAWKEYE (Takame)".
  • Moreover his hatred runs so deep he doesn't merely want to destroy the Holy Kingdom -- he wants them to destroy themselves through their own stupidity and arrogance -- like an Opera.
  • He is pseudo-immortal due to his space-time powers and works millennia architecting this. Including multiple coups, kingdom formations/dissolutions, defending and attacking the church as needed, to "set up" the events necessary
• By sheer chance Hawkeye unknowingly recruits Shu into a highly secretive Black Guild (world-power "Black Cat"). Shu formally becomes guild's assassin chair "REAPER (Shinigami)".
  • Hawkeye cuts a deal with Shu when he recognizes his power (to help him achieve his goal), and offers to be his exclusive information broker (double-agent for everyone else) in exchange for his help "causing the Holy Kingdom to destroy themselves".
  • In the end, after millenia, Hawkeye+Shu accomplish this and the complete genocide of the church. In the end, Hawkeye and Shu meet up in front of the grave of the Dullahan. And Hawkeye asks Shu to end his life and bury him next to his Father.

TL;DR: Iris' parents were as wholesome as Iris was. Got killed for it. Child they tried to save becomes plot-driving powerhouse who hires Shu to literally wipe the Holy Kingdom (that betrayed both Iris and him) off the face of the map -- in Operatic fashion.

Cue 300+ chapters of plot and the "Holy Kingdom arc" end.

Damn. His alias should have been Wick, because he sounds like a man of focus, commitment, and sheer fucking will.

Joking aside, despite it taking so long to actually achieve, it really sounds as if all he did was speed up the Church's idiocy, because they were clearly heading that direction already.

 

[gr2222]

where on the novel is this chapter?