@nonameanonymous82435 @BestBoy
You shouldn't be questioning me about a quote someone else said but because I agree with the dude I quoted I will try to defend what he said. First, let me address your last point first:
I think bestboy is just a midwit mouthpiece for other people opinions with no mind of his own. He says whatever internalized - never thought through - shit happens to be on his mind at the moment, even if it happens to oppose his previous stances. Just your average middle- middle class fence-sitting don't-offend-anyone niceguytm social opportunist with delusions of being "cultured" (how many times he'd mentioned "Lolita" - which is also a movie btw - ?). I bet his favorite color is cosmic latte.
In short, people like him often end up being most harmful - no matter the context - and I find it real funny that you'd decided to quote him of all people given what you wrote under said quote.
Now, I haven't been in the MD community for much time but I am not so knowledgeable about the "characters of the play" but even if so BestBoy said something that was poignant and apt regarding this pedophilia debate that stemmed from me arguing with OP --- 3 months ago. There is literally nothing wrong with Bestboy and what I have seen in the past, the guy might have evolved his opinions regardless of how you think he got to them and if it ran contrary to his outlook in the past. All of these just seem like ad-homs that were levied towards BestBoy because you don't like that he has had some form of introspection. I didn't even write anything under the quote so I am not so sure on what exactly you are talking about and lastly, I don't think he is an
average middle- middle class fence-sitting don't-offend-anyone niceguytm social opportunist with delusions of being "cultured" because if he was one, he wouldn't try to seek out conflict like the type you given him.
Now, on to your first point attacking (what looks like to you to be a hypocrisy found in) BestBoy's argument:
Uh-huh. Don't see how how director's intent changes the fact that she'd also provided high production value jerk off material starring real children to pedos though.
Despite what you might think, nothing of what he has said contradict his point. Authorial intent matters a lot in media and this is where I will get some hate thrown at me but it should be expected when talking about the pedophilia debate or whatever this shit heap is. I think your point shouldn't be directed at Cuties but other shit to be honest because it matters a lot. In the movie, the girls were sexualized a lot, from the interaction with the security guard to near the end of the dance routine where some dude was glaring at them with dubious intent licking his lips while her family members were covering their eyes because of the shit their daughter was doing. Arguably, this is seen as bad but in each scene, they framed the idea of sexualized children to be bad (wow!), the interaction with the security guard made him out to be a fucking pedophile (as he was) and the same as the random onlooker. There was even a time in the movie, where she was called out by her brother and actually put CP on her social media account (by stealing her phone back and taking a picture of her privates* to show online).
I would even go as far as to say that there is even more of a case in Anime than Cuties ever was. Take
Eromanga Sensei,
Oreimo or even
My Sister, My Writer, they all fall into the same sexualizing a relationship with your little sister niche which
never show any intention of commenting of the sexualization of minors nor did they try to bring into question the shit the MC does. These shows objectify the imoutos without impunity while Cuties has done so in various scenes in the movie. There is no time in which the Anime I have spoke of have so diligently tried to answer the question of "maybe what I am doing is questionable and bad" with the small exception of Oreimo but they still went and got married. While, Cuties has tons of those moments that are taking from the young girl's point of view. The funniest thing is that the director is receiving hate for documenting the shit she went through as a child and the effect it had on her.
People miss the mark so much on which media they should target because they never actually want to address the idea of CSA or grooming seriously so they never actually have to take action against something that happens that disgust them. "Oh, a movie that would have gone under the radar unless Netflix didn't fuck up with the advertising? Time to get outraged instead of levying action towards actual CSA and grooming. The moral high-ground is something people try to climb so they can justify the shit they do without thinking about the repercussions of their actions and I got to say Cuties is literally the perfect scapegoat for idiots looking for a quick huff of that cocaine that is the moral high-ground.
e: also the reason why i brought Bestboy back is because I am paranoid as hell and the thought of someone talking about me negative is one of the biggest fears others and I have so I think it would be best to bring the guy you so despise back into the discussion.
