Noa-senpai wa Tomodachi. - Vol. 5 Ch. 48 - Noa-Senpai and Her Suspicions

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In the first instance, why would you seek a new friendship with the opposite sex at this stage of your life? If you have time for yourself, how about your wife? Would you just let her stay at home with the kids? Why can't she join in?

I guess if you are not in the same situation or at the same age you would struggle understand such concepts. So you are anything between between 16 to 25 or so right?
Because they're just new people that you met who are interesting, and women don't exist just to be dated.

As for why she couldn't join in, differing schedules, just not interested, making time to hang out with her own friends, it could be any number of reasons. The point is that you're positing that there is no situation where spending time alone with someone from the opposite sex can be allowed, as if neither of you are trustworthy enough for the other to not see that interaction as malicious.

It's not like anyone's saying spending 5 out of 7 days in a week hanging out with a female friend instead of being with your wife is fine, but you can't hang out with someone you like talking to even once or twice a month or you're automatically cheating?

I feel like that says a lot more about your perspectives on other people and each other than it does about adult relationships.

And no, I am not within the 16-25 range
 
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Detective Noa is cute. I like plaid.

Well, she would say they're getting along well.

Immediately blames the guy. Typical.

"It's really not good to let bad assumptions decide how you view someone."
You mean like you did moments before?

Being cute isn't usually enough to fall in love.

"Don't you seem a bit possessive?"
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I think she's just scared about thinking of him in a romantic sense, cause all her prior flings ended in heartbreak, so she's associating romance with inevitable rejection, so she'd rather deny it's romantic, and just think of it as really close friends.
 
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Because they're just new people that you met who are interesting, and women don't exist just to be dated.

As for why she couldn't join in, differing schedules, just not interested, making time to hang out with her own friends, it could be any number of reasons. The point is that you're positing that there is no situation where spending time alone with someone from the opposite sex can be allowed, as if neither of you are trustworthy enough for the other to not see that interaction as malicious.

It's not like anyone's saying spending 5 out of 7 days in a week hanging out with a female friend instead of being with your wife is fine, but you can't hang out with someone you like talking to even once or twice a month or you're automatically cheating?

I feel like that says a lot more about your perspectives on other people and each other than it does about adult relationships.

And no, I am not within the 16-25 range
I'm in complete agreement with you; most of my friends are women, and many of them are married or in relationships. I met them through work and through shared hobbies, and we just got along and enjoy each other's company without there ever having been any romantic interest between us.

For the ones that do have partners, I have asked to make sure they know that their partner is welcome to hang out as well (the more friends, the merrier) but the response has always been along the same lines: they have their own hobbies and interests, and when one is hanging out with me the other is off doing something they enjoy.

That seems perfectly healthy and normal to me; being attached to someone's hip the way Noa wants isn't good for anyone, no matter what their relationship status is.
 
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Negi is too hot for this manga.
She needs to be in a manga about a freelance model. Have her be roommates with Mao from Goddess Cafe as they deal with slimey talent managers and ad people. Negi then falls in love with an otaku that hires her to cosplay so he can take pictures of her.
 
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I think maybe I'm the only one having trouble interpreting that last page. She's blushing, frowning, looks sad but determined. Is she reminding herself that they are just friends and that's all they'll be? Or is she becoming determined to change that.
 
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That seems perfectly healthy and normal to me; being attached to someone's hip the way Noa wants isn't good for anyone, no matter what their relationship status is.
I would say whether if is good or not is down to the people involved. If they both like things being that way than there is no problem.
 
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Because they're just new people that you met who are interesting, and women don't exist just to be dated.

As for why she couldn't join in, differing schedules, just not interested, making time to hang out with her own friends, it could be any number of reasons. The point is that you're positing that there is no situation where spending time alone with someone from the opposite sex can be allowed, as if neither of you are trustworthy enough for the other to not see that interaction as malicious.

It's not like anyone's saying spending 5 out of 7 days in a week hanging out with a female friend instead of being with your wife is fine, but you can't hang out with someone you like talking to even once or twice a month or you're automatically cheating?

I feel like that says a lot more about your perspectives on other people and each other than it does about adult relationships.

And no, I am not within the 16-25 range
I never said anything about cheating. This is all your personal attempt to gaslight.

If that's what you do with your spouse good on you. I work 9 to 5 and two Sundays per month 8 to 8. I don't go out at all apart from when I take my family out. Where would I meet the new people? At work? At the age of 36 I really don't care about making new friends and don't have any more energy than to see my kids to bed and spend some quality time with the woman I love.

I also much prefer to go nowhere and snuggle home with my wife than be anywhere and be without her. She IS my best friend in the whole world, I never tire speaking to her, looking at her or being around her and when something important or funny happens she is the first person I talk to and the first person I message. In case you are wondering, this goes both ways. Our personal space is well respected when I play my games or in her case when reads her books or watches certain shows we don't watch together. When I need to go out with a pal of mine, which is extremely rare nowadays as I simply have no time, she will stay with kids and I will go for a 2 to 3 hours or so. Equally when she wants to meet on of her girls I keep the children and she goes out. If I am the odd one, then I am glad I am odd, because I wouldn't trade the last 20 years with anything else in the world. For me, this has been the definition of a successful marriage.

But actually, every couple with kids I know even from work pretty much have a similar lifestyle.

So if you require the companionship of a new woman in any form, as man, then there's a void that's not getting fulfilled inside of your marriage. That doesn't mean to have sex or get intimate with the new person. You can fill a void with many and different kinds of interactions. And mind you I am not talking about pre-existing friends you had from years before meeting your spouse, like childhood friends. I am talking about meeting a new woman, or man for that matter and chat to them, enjoy their company and then decide you want to meet them out for drinks or dinner just the two of you. A new person of the opposite sex. If this doesn't trigger any alarms in you or your spouse, then good on both of you. I don't know how many people would agree to that but good on you mate. However on an irrelevant note, I really doubt even if you are married, that you actually have children. I wouldn't even believe it for a second, based on your reply.

Having the time to go out, for frivolry and meeting "a new woman" or a "new man" are things reserved for single, young individuals (usually), or young couples. When we were young we also had friends of the opposite sex and on occasion hang out with them without being with each other. But we were 24 then, studying at uni, carefree, not caring about a single thing in the world. My whole argument from the beginning is that when you are an full fledged adult, married, with kids, relations with the opposite sex are not as simple as when you were young. If you were a family man you wouldn't be replying the way you did. I assumed you were at least married to be trying to argue my points... I really hope you are cause otherwise it is like a swordsman talking about swords with a guy that only ever held daggers.
 
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I'm in complete agreement with you; most of my friends are women, and many of them are married or in relationships. I met them through work and through shared hobbies, and we just got along and enjoy each other's company without there ever having been any romantic interest between us.

For the ones that do have partners, I have asked to make sure they know that their partner is welcome to hang out as well (the more friends, the merrier) but the response has always been along the same lines: they have their own hobbies and interests, and when one is hanging out with me the other is off doing something they enjoy.

That seems perfectly healthy and normal to me; being attached to someone's hip the way Noa wants isn't good for anyone, no matter what their relationship status is.
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I would say whether if is good or not is down to the people involved. If they both like things being that way than there is no problem.

If two people genuinely want to do the same things together, that's fine. I just think it's unhealthy to have this expectation that just because you're partners (or best friends in Noa's case) that you have to do everything together and you can't hang out with other people or have different interests.

Or I guess to put it another way, I think the people who want to spend every waking moment together are the exception, not the rule, and not recognizing that can cause a lot of unnecessary grief.
 
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Noa knows what she wants. We all do before we admit it. I went from full denial to marriage myself.
 
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I never said anything about cheating. This is all your personal attempt to gaslight.

If that's what you do with your spouse good on you. I work 9 to 5 and two Sundays per month 8 to 8. I don't go out at all apart from when I take my family out. Where would I meet the new people? At work? At the age of 36 I really don't care about making new friends and don't have any more energy than to see my kids to bed and spend some quality time with the woman I love.

I also much prefer to go nowhere and snuggle home with my wife than be anywhere and be without her. She IS my best friend in the whole world, I never tire speaking to her, looking at her or being around her and when something important or funny happens she is the first person I talk to and the first person I message. In case you are wondering, this goes both ways. Our personal space is well respected when I play my games or in her case when reads her books or watches certain shows we don't watch together. When I need to go out with a pal of mine, which is extremely rare nowadays as I simply have no time, she will stay with kids and I will go for a 2 to 3 hours or so. Equally when she wants to meet on of her girls I keep the children and she goes out. If I am the odd one, then I am glad I am odd, because I wouldn't trade the last 20 years with anything else in the world. For me, this has been the definition of a successful marriage.

But actually, every couple with kids I know even from work pretty much have a similar lifestyle.

So if you require the companionship of a new woman in any form, as man, then there's a void that's not getting fulfilled inside of your marriage. That doesn't mean to have sex or get intimate with the new person. You can fill a void with many and different kinds of interactions. And mind you I am not talking about pre-existing friends you had from years before meeting your spouse, like childhood friends. I am talking about meeting a new woman, or man for that matter and chat to them, enjoy their company and then decide you want to meet them out for drinks or dinner just the two of you. A new person of the opposite sex. If this doesn't trigger any alarms in you or your spouse, then good on both of you. I don't know how many people would agree to that but good on you mate. However on an irrelevant note, I really doubt even if you are married, that you actually have children. I wouldn't even believe it for a second, based on your reply.

Having the time to go out, for frivolry and meeting "a new woman" or a "new man" are things reserved for single, young individuals (usually), or young couples. When we were young we also had friends of the opposite sex and on occasion hang out with them without being with each other. But we were 24 then, studying at uni, carefree, not caring about a single thing in the world. My whole argument from the beginning is that when you are an full fledged adult, married, with kids, relations with the opposite sex are not as simple as when you were young. If you were a family man you wouldn't be replying the way you did. I assumed you were at least married to be trying to argue my points... I really hope you are cause otherwise it is like a swordsman talking about swords with a guy that only ever held daggers.
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