“Okaeri, Papa” - Ch. 24 - Running Away

[Bdl60]

What a puss* brother pouting like a child for a day to day for a discussion with your sister, just because your are a coward who can thinks hopefully of your damn live.

A fuckup chapter like always, to be continuons.

 

[gmanhunt]

Women am i right fellas?

 

[animan095]

NO YOU BASTARD LET HER GO

 

[Alcron]

edit: nvm, after re-reading the volume extras, I think they are both consensually complicit in whatever they are doing.

edit 2: now that my 4am brain is fully activated (I reread everything) - I am convinced that they are trying to separate MC from his family so they can sacrifice him. Not sure why, but they think they are reincarnating the dead husband/father (also probably named Hiroto) by having MC impregnate one of them. Not sure why MC has to die, but they must be trying to alienate him from his family for some reason. Every time the mother or daughter says "Hiroto" or "Papa", they are referring to the dead husband, all while looking at MC (who will be the "seed"). The final scene of the manga will be Touko looking down at her newborn baby boy and saying "Okaeri, Papa", believing that she has given birth to the reincarnation of her dead father.

They're separating him from his family to make him more susceptible to their plans, if they say to him directly: "Hey, honey, would you like to impregnate your stepdaughter who is still in high school?" he would probably call the police, but by alienating him from the people closest to him they can brainwash him more efficiently, it's a common practice used by cults.

 

[nightnyx]

This sibling is doomed oof

 

[Koneko_Nyaa]

So much cooking going on I can't keep track

For those having a hard time following the recipe:

She's a brocon, but she married a scumbag. Since her husband is an ass, she sought comfort from her boss - who reminded her of her beloved brother. They have been having an affair and he knocked her up. She just discovered that her affair partner is also a cheater but, unlike her, he seems to be happily married and unlikely to leave his wife for her. He's been encouraging her to abort as keeping the child may expose the affair to both their spouses.

Meanwhile, she's an emotional wreck because:

• Her husband doesn't put her first - She married a selfish ass.
• Her beloved brother doesn't put her first - He's now happily married with a family of his own.
• Her affair partner doesn't put her first - He's a family man and she was just his side-piece.

She is too afraid to face accountability for her choices, so she has gone to her moping spot to wallow in her depression.
Her final hope is that her beloved brother will come rescue her from her depression and somehow save her from facing the consequences for her actions. Unfortunately for her, he's a family man too and didn't come alone. Now she has to see the face of [the woman who took him away from her] while she's in her broken state. While her brother may have been soft enough to save her from herself, his wife and stepdaughter likely aren't.

I don't see this ending well, but I have no sympathy for her. She brought this all upon herself.
The yandere oyakodon duo's intentions here are unimportant. While they may slightly factor into the ultimate outcome, she earned her karma on her own.

If she:

• Didn't marry an ass and continue to stay with him despite him being an ass.
• Didn't have an affair. (And failed to use protection too.)
• Didn't treat her brother like shit.

- things would have turned out better for her.

Also, her brother essentially spent his whole childhood being treated as her errand-boy, so he would've been an easy mark for any woman willing to show him some respect. Any woman who treated him better than his sister would've been able to pick him up, so one could say that the brother being blind to the red flags and getting hitched to the yandere oyakodon duo and - by extension - their impact on the outcome of this situation is all part of her karma too.

 

[LunaVenator]

So wait, is the manager himself the dad too? What did he want to give her money for the hospital for?

No, she is pregnant again, from the manager this time

 

[Koneko_Nyaa]

So that's why she was reacting the way she did, it wasn't only the weird relationship her brother have with his new family, she got pregnant from another man and is feeling guilty about it. However, the way she reacts - for an adult - is so weird, it is literally the same as that girl in Touko's school, they are both antagonising everyone instead of acknowledging their own fault.

Also, why does the MC react like that to her sister missing? Wasn't he supposed to be a "super sibling"? "Oh but the sister was so mean" fuck that, it is just showing that the author doesn't know how to write their characters.

His sister (and his mother) has been treating him poorly his entire childhood. Now that he is married to someone who treats him well and has had a taste of what it's like to be appreciated, he has likely lost some affection towards his mother and sister. His sister's outburst the other day was the just final straw.
He's so over it now - he has reached the stage if indifference. He likely feels that it's pointless to care about someone who is unstable, unpredictable, and unappreciative of his efforts. "She's just doing her thing. That's how she is now. She'll show up when she shows up. It's not my problem. She wouldn't appreciate my help anyway."

maybe she'll somehow have a 'miscarriage' (assuming you can't do dna tests on that) and it'll be seen as a tragedy and the 'husband' will feel 'guilty' enough to pitch in more or so versus him happening to bump into the affair partner

(But seriously you'd think someone with a wife and kid already wouldn't have time to have an affair since even tho she works too, usually the man does work more in a marriage/career)

I think just the fact that she's pregnant is proof of the affair. She doesn't appear to be on good terms with her husband and they likely haven't fucked in a while, so it couldn't be his.

I audibly yelled "NO NO NOO!" When I go to the last page God dammit this manga is PEAK!!!
Wait a second, how did she get there before he did??? I really hope something didn't happen in the car before she found her.
A new chapter can't come soon enough!!!

We'll probably find out in the next or subsequent chapter.
My guess is that he's still a bit bitter over the way she treated him last time. Maybe he even thinks that she hates him right now. His wife offered to go instead and he thought that would be the better choice.

He doesn't yet know about his wife or daughter's darkness. From his perspective, his gentle wife would've been a better choice to comfort his unstable sister than him - whom she's currently feuding with.

 

[petcat]

Is anyone other than the baby (hopefully) NOT fucked up here?

 

[curvedtree]

His sister (and his mother) has been treating him poorly his entire childhood. Now that he is married to someone who treats him well and has had a taste of what it's like to be appreciated, he has likely lost some affection towards his mother and sister.

What are some examples of this poor treatment?

His sister's outburst the other day was the just final straw.

You mean when he accepted to take care of his baby nephew, delegated this responsibility to a teenager and they disappeared? You really think a mother is in the wrong for being pissed at him over that? Besides, it is obvious the author made her say what she did only to create drama, MC didn't show a single ounce of remorse for doing what he did.

He's so over it now - he has reached the stage if indifference. He likely feels that it's pointless to care about someone who is unstable, unpredictable, and unappreciative of his efforts. "She's just doing her thing. That's how she is now. She'll show up when she shows up. It's not my problem. She wouldn't appreciate my help anyway."

Once again, this goes against the whole idea the author build for this character. An inherently "good" character isn't supposed to be indifferent of others, specially for a family member, just because she said one mean thing, specially after he caused a distress for her. If this is reason enough for a "good" character to lose his cool, he isn't a good character and by default this goes against the reason why Miyako picked him to be her husband - because so far all things point out she did it because he supposedly is a goody two shoes.

 

[Weoooo]

Once again, this goes against the whole idea the author build for this character. An inherently "good" character isn't supposed to be indifferent of others, specially for a family member, just because she said one mean thing, specially after he caused a distress for her. If this is reason enough for a "good" character to lose his cool, he isn't a good character and by default this goes against the reason why Miyako picked him to be her husband - because so far all things point out she did it because he supposedly is a goody two shoes.

The other guy is wrong and has decided a character who is obviously a victim is a villain because he's another one of the insane people who follow this comic, but there's nothing inherently wrong with the idea of the brother being reluctant to look for her. I mean, they just got into a fight. It's awkward. He's mad at her right now. The mom knows what happened. I mean, they're siblings, and we've seen that they fight and make up afterwards. It's common behavior.

 

[Weoooo]

And yet, the only one who seems not to be reading is the guy you’re quoting :/

Oh, siding with the multiple post guy are we? No, I'm very clearly reading the dang thing. Like shit man, just because multiple post guy has decided to ignore everything implied doesn't mean he's right. It's pretty gosh darn clear at this point just how insane the plan is.

But to your reply, we can assume that Chika knew he was happily married, but I don't think we have reason to believe that. I do admit that I actually missed the ring on his finger and thus we should have known immediately this chapter that he was married, but since nobody else has brought that up yet, I think the discussion has too. You're right, though, that even as readers we had no reason to believe the manager had ties until now, Chika would have.

But based on the messages we've seen from him, I don't believe Chika would be out of line assuming that the ties weren't strong. We see him asking about the husband situation and telling her that he's all hers in case something happens. Now we know why he's saying that, because he's perceptive and manipulative and knows that's what she wants to read. But consider that the idea of someone wanting to leave their spouse but still staying married isn't some far off strange idea, it's literally her situation. Her realization that she got utterly played happens this chapter, at the same time that ours does.

She's been driven into a corner. Stuck in a marriage to someone she married young but who turned out to be The Worst, accidentally got her best friend mad at her because she tried to say there were good things about not having a kid yet, entered into an affair with someone who manipulated her at basically every turn and let her believe that she had an out that she doesn't, and to top it off, her family is being deliberately pushed apart by the machinations of a mother/daughter pair who are up to possibly cosmic levels of no good, but the person they're manipulating, her brother(who she dearly loves), is mad at her because of something she said in the moment that she was literally manipulated into saying.

It's one of these things where you can step back and cross your arms and go "bitch deserves what's coming," but like... if you actually read what's happened this lady has been getting hit over and over with ridiculous haymakers. Like shit man, her friend saw the fact that she always brought her kid with her to meetings as bragging when she only did that because her husband won't watch him. She got a negative consequence that limits her turned on her head and used against her like she was trying to be boastful. It's been like 10 chapters of watching this lady just be unable to win.

 

[bot1995]

not the ugly bastard char but was ugly bastard deep inside

 

[AcidVlad]

I predict she'll genuinaly nice with the sister-in-law

 

[SenpaiSan]

Oh, siding with the multiple post guy are we? No, I'm very clearly reading the dang thing. Like shit man, just because multiple post guy has decided to ignore everything implied doesn't mean he's right. It's pretty gosh darn clear at this point just how insane the plan is.

But to your reply, we can assume that Chika knew he was happily married, but I don't think we have reason to believe that. I do admit that I actually missed the ring on his finger and thus we should have known immediately this chapter that he was married, but since nobody else has brought that up yet, I think the discussion has too. You're right, though, that even as readers we had no reason to believe the manager had ties until now, Chika would have.

But based on the messages we've seen from him, I don't believe Chika would be out of line assuming that the ties weren't strong. We see him asking about the husband situation and telling her that he's all hers in case something happens. Now we know why he's saying that, because he's perceptive and manipulative and knows that's what she wants to read. But consider that the idea of someone wanting to leave their spouse but still staying married isn't some far off strange idea, it's literally her situation. Her realization that she got utterly played happens this chapter, at the same time that ours does.

She's been driven into a corner. Stuck in a marriage to someone she married young but who turned out to be The Worst, accidentally got her best friend mad at her because she tried to say there were good things about not having a kid yet, entered into an affair with someone who manipulated her at basically every turn and let her believe that she had an out that she doesn't, and to top it off, her family is being deliberately pushed apart by the machinations of a mother/daughter pair who are up to possibly cosmic levels of no good, but the person they're manipulating, her brother(who she dearly loves), is mad at her because of something she said in the moment that she was literally manipulated into saying.

It's one of these things where you can step back and cross your arms and go "bitch deserves what's coming," but like... if you actually read what's happened this lady has been getting hit over and over with ridiculous haymakers. Like shit man, her friend saw the fact that she always brought her kid with her to meetings as bragging when she only did that because her husband won't watch him. She got a negative consequence that limits her turned on her head and used against her like she was trying to be boastful. It's been like 10 chapters of watching this lady just be unable to win.

And this is where saying that ‘you’re the one who doesn’t read’ makes perfect sense…

Ultimately, our perspective doesn’t really matter because we’re not part of the story (and I’m not even addressing that). I’m specifically talking about Chika’s perspective. The information we’ve been given over time allows us to better understand her situation.

As I mentioned in my first reply to you, I hold no hatred towards Chika, and I’ve never called her a ‘bitch.’ However, I do believe she deserves what’s happening to her because we can’t completely absolve her of responsibility, even if she’s not the only one at fault. Between her horrible husband and the human trash that is her manager, she’s really not surrounded by good people.

For the rest, we’re basically saying the same thing but from different angles or with different wording.

Now, when I say that Chika keeps making bad decisions that have led her to this dead end, that’s just a fact.
Cheating is never a solution. On top of that, she likely did it without protection, thinking her manager would always be there for her and only for her (unlike her husband). This despite knowing full well that he already had a family. Now that she’s pregnant with a probably unwanted child, she’s torn between keeping it—which would expose her infidelity and completely ruin her life even more (leaving her as a single mother with two young children and a part-time job, which it’s than than survival)—or listening to the man who betrayed her and having an abortion.

This chapter was simply a harsh wake-up call for Chika, seeing that her manager had a ‘perfect’ family life, unlike her, and realizing that she was nothing more than a fling to him. He never intended to have a serious relationship with her (which is implicitly made clear by his suggestion to abort for their mutual sake).

That’s also why I say if she could be deceived by a little player like her manager, it’ll be a piece of cake for her sister-in-law and niece to manipulate her. (And just to be clear, I’m not talking about a harem or anything like that, as many here seem to be.)

Finally, when you say I’m not reading or imply that I don’t understand… well, I think I’m not the right person for you to say that to. Like, I haven’t said anything fundamentally wrong. I’m just sharing my perspective on her situation

 

[Lustrist]

man it was so much easier to have a second hidden family if you were a trucker in the 1950s

 

[Iamcheater]

So she didn't just start an affair, she also didn't use protection... Even if she wasn't asking for a cream pie and the manager guy just did it without asking, it was her that should have enforced protection at all times.

And as for the cheating she's terrible no excuse. While clearly the duchebag husband is the person at fault in their relationship, cheating on him is not an acceptable situation. She should have filed for divorce. A loveless abusive marriage is not going to be good for her child in any way. "she was vulnerable, he said the right things, it's the manager's fault"... Just a big no, that doesn't detract from her responsibility. I would understand kissing him in the vulnerable moment, sure. Then think of what she did and either do the right thing or fall in the dark hole. But this slut proceeded with getting in all fours, getting fucked without protection and then cream pied leading to this. Wtf did she expect?

All 3 of them are terrible ppl in this situation but her decisions are dooming the life of 2 children.

 

[Iamcheater]

And this is where saying that ‘you’re the one who doesn’t read’ makes perfect sense…

Ultimately, our perspective doesn’t really matter because we’re not part of the story (and I’m not even addressing that). I’m specifically talking about Chika’s perspective. The information we’ve been given over time allows us to better understand her situation.

As I mentioned in my first reply to you, I hold no hatred towards Chika, and I’ve never called her a ‘bitch.’ However, I do believe she deserves what’s happening to her because we can’t completely absolve her of responsibility, even if she’s not the only one at fault. Between her horrible husband and the human trash that is her manager, she’s really not surrounded by good people.

For the rest, we’re basically saying the same thing but from different angles or with different wording.

Now, when I say that Chika keeps making bad decisions that have led her to this dead end, that’s just a fact.
Cheating is never a solution. On top of that, she likely did it without protection, thinking her manager would always be there for her and only for her (unlike her husband). This despite knowing full well that he already had a family. Now that she’s pregnant with a probably unwanted child, she’s torn between keeping it—which would expose her infidelity and completely ruin her life even more (leaving her as a single mother with two young children and a part-time job, which it’s than than survival)—or listening to the man who betrayed her and having an abortion.

This chapter was simply a harsh wake-up call for Chika, seeing that her manager had a ‘perfect’ family life, unlike her, and realizing that she was nothing more than a fling to him. He never intended to have a serious relationship with her (which is implicitly made clear by his suggestion to abort for their mutual sake).

That’s also why I say if she could be deceived by a little player like her manager, it’ll be a piece of cake for her sister-in-law and niece to manipulate her. (And just to be clear, I’m not talking about a harem or anything like that, as many here seem to be.)

Finally, when you say I’m not reading or imply that I don’t understand… well, I think I’m not the right person for you to say that to. Like, I haven’t said anything fundamentally wrong. I’m just sharing my perspective on her situation

Dude 100% agree. Basically what I said just above. Cheating, offering your body without protection. The manager didn't do those things to her by force, it takes two to tango. And even if she was coerced, fucking him without a condom is just beyond stupid. Ppl actually saying "Aw poor Chika, not her fault" or "Chika did nothing wrong. She did well to cheat, she was just unlucky to be manipulated" are disgusting. I am married man, I love my wife. If I felt our marriage was a dead end, I would first try to fix it and if the damage was irreparable and the wedge between us massive then I would file for divorce. (god even writing this made me shiver, I love my wife!)

Actions have consequences. She's at massive fault for dooming 2 tiny lives. Everything that is happening to her is just desserts. The husband and the manager should also pay for their horrible actions. All 3 of them are absolutely disgusting.