Ryuu to Ayumu Nariagari Boukensha-dou - Vol. 5 Ch. 25 - Savior

[Titanium507]

Anyone know where's the rest of chaps come from? What's the latest chap?

I have been wondering the same thing for like the last 20 chapters

 

[Shinigamisama]

Meh, I was hoping for their demise.

 

[SayHiTony]

Btw, how the fuck did the GM find out that they were in danger?

It's at the start of chapter 23. When Sigrit and co went into the dungeon, they said they would be in there for 12 hours. They're in there for much longer than that, so the guild workers alert the GM. So she sends Yuki in, which is the flashback at the start of this chapter.

 

[Solipsist]

Honestly feel more like a problem with how they write character's. Everyone is one dimensional, like they don't have a life outside of interacting with the mcs or doing actions in reaction to something they did or have done towards the mcs. Like i tried thinking about the 'make her independent/realize how much she cared for him angle' but it made me realize just how everyone in this group has nothing outside of how they relate to the namesake pair of the manga. Even the guildmaster, for supposedly running a guild has only ever been seen to discipline the one party member who didn't need it, and dueling the main pair. She has no other traits of being in a managerial position other than strong, big sword, and good design, other than that most everyone is a nothing burger

100%.
But I don't expect "good writing" in that sense, from these type of "kicked out of the hero's party" type of stories. I don't really expect characters to have anything going on other than the MC. That's a lot of work, ya'know?

But I can expect that a writer won't present a conflict, without establishing an understandable reason beforehand. Baffling your readers, on any level, and having them no option but to go: "This is stupid", is no bueno.

P.S: I think I may had a stroke when I wrote my previous comment. I'm surprised anyone managed to power through it.

 

[Solipsist]

plenty enough talk on what her intentions might be but, from what I'm seeing, the actual effect so far is that keeping the 3 parties separate makes each of them reconcile with their past and current situation.

Dion has [....]

Though, all these points are sans any revelations about investigations that may come in the coming chapters.

Ya'see, that's a lot of analysis given the information we already have, or that we have to dig into. It's the writer's job to not present such a simple conflict, and have the easiest, low-hanging-fruit conclusion be: "That's stupid."
If a character has critical information, and she refuses to share it -- you better damn at least establish that the character knows more than the rest, something else is stopping her, etc. Anything.
But if the character is being an asshole about it?

Personally, I don't think that's good writing. It's like saying: "The kidnapper went to the left", and then having the chasing soldiers wonder where the kidnapper went, and they end up going right. That's no good. It's too easy to go: "that's stupid" and be angry about it.
I think a writer should, for the very least, try to prevent the audience from wagging their fingers at w/e they're writing and calling "stupid".

(And with the chase example -- the easiest solution is to just not show / narrate where the kidnapper went. If the soldiers are confused, so should the reader. This is some basic shit that I see A LOT of times in manga. I stopped reading Gantz because of it, I shit you not. Well, not specifically because of it, Gantz as a whole is pretty impressive, but also, just, really dumb...That part just broke me.)

 

[Shamanfox]

Thanks for the translation! Looking forward for the next chapter

 

[nonexistent696969]

yoo

 

[UnexplainedDeath]

The raw of this manga is pretty strange. I think they cut the chapter up and then labelled them as full chapter instead of .1 and .2.

I asked a few mangaka's about it, some of them choose to break them into parts to help meet deadlines. I can totally see why and understand as I've watch streams and doing a single page can take hours and double pages can take double that.

 

[UnexplainedDeath]

God the guild master is such a fucking asshole.

The guild master is just doing her job. From what I can get from this is that she is personally doing her own investigation of Yuki's party and to test Yuki's character and actual relationship with Dion. Oh course, Yuki is not just going to say she's a love interest with a lady she hardly knows so we will only get whats called subtextual dialogue from Yuki. But for now, GM is having her fun with Yuki and probably having her door dash the idiots to her guild to be punished for later.

 

[stavekoff]

the guild master is a baddie

 

[SSRBReader]

"Ice wall"

"A defensive wall made of ice huh?"

Yeah, no shit bro