S-Kyuu Boukensha ga Ayumu Michi: Tsuihou Sareta Shounen wa Shin no Nouryoku 'Buki Master' de Sekai Saikyou ni Itaru - Ch. 2.3

[Bobdillan69]

Spoiler

it's true but also not

1. Hyce actually in the beginning still want to clear labyrinth solo
2. He actually mellowed out a lot later on, but still have his firm stance
3. And this is half the reason why he didn't solo the labyrinth, after sky labyrinth, the labyrinth later on can't be cleared alone, being in a team is a requirement, not even because he can't handle the enemy solo, it's the labyrinth system

Spoiler

and you're not wrong, it's actually pretty bad on top of that, and all of those actually mostly because of piazolla and reynold (he really wants to get into her pants, despite all of his good intention, but he's not like other exile series where the male that are part of the party is a genuine scumbag and would do anything to achieve it, reynold is just a dick that knew if hyce isn't in the clan, he gets more chance, and he did)
they basically sugarcoat her mistake by saying it's not, or it's not that bad, or that it's actually for the best

that's why her retrospect actually better when she's talking with someone like tycoon that actually does pamper her a bit, but also blunt at the same time, or when other heroines basically shot down all of her crap opinion

CHOTTO MATTE!!!!

Spoiler: what do you mean?

"he gets more chance, and he did"

"he did" could you elaborate on this?

Cause it can imply more than you meant, or less than you meant.

Like, given the cover, and while i know it'll probably take a while, I'm assuming Sasha is going to end up with hyce at some point...

But now I'm concerned about those red flags popping up...

 

[Monochrme]

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CHOTTO MATTE!!!!

Spoiler: what do you mean?

"he gets more chance, and he did"

"he did" could you elaborate on this?

Cause it can imply more than you meant, or less than you meant.

Like, given the cover, and while i know it'll probably take a while, I'm assuming Sasha is going to end up with hyce at some point...

But now I'm concerned about those red flags popping up...

Spoiler

don't worry, what i meant by "he did" isn't a red flag stuff, he basically just gets more chance to get closer to Sasha, way more compared to when Hyce still in the clan

them as a clan actually are like a family, so nothing bad you think of will happen
though, he did able to sway sasha heart by a really little amount, since he gets to keep making a move to woo her, it's unfortunate for him that sasha is as dense as a diamond

 

[HammerU89]

The edgelord has spoken. Also he's had 2 years and never looked into the book?

 

[stryke105]

while she had her reasons, going 2 years without a peep is crazyyyy

 

[asherdales]

Finally she realized just how naive she's been and that there's nothing she can do that can fix this. Hopefully anything in the future showing her side of her travels is her coming to terms with it and her character becoming stronger. And I hope he stays the path of his convictions as well unlike what happens in Revenge of the Soul Eater where he's consumed by revenge but eventually in the end just doesn't do anything about it.

 

[Rezael]

CHOTTO MATTE!!!!

Spoiler: what do you mean?

"he gets more chance, and he did"

"he did" could you elaborate on this?

Cause it can imply more than you meant, or less than you meant.

Like, given the cover, and while i know it'll probably take a while, I'm assuming Sasha is going to end up with hyce at some point...

But now I'm concerned about those red flags popping up...

Spoiler

don't worry, what i meant by "he did" isn't a red flag stuff, he basically just gets more chance to get closer to Sasha, way more compared to when Hyce still in the clan

them as a clan actually are like a family, so nothing bad you think of will happen
though, he did able to sway sasha heart by a really little amount, since he gets to keep making a move to woo her, it's unfortunate for him that sasha is as dense as a diamond

it cause Hyse is standing next to her as an equal now and running past her at times. And Sasha isn’t looking down on him like before and is able to see more things about her child hood friend. Who he is now who he has become and who he was back then. Along with things he did to support her and how she depend on him for a lot things without realizing it.

A didn’t know what you had till you lost it vibe

 

[SayHiTony]

Thanks appreciate it
just read it but holy crap these two piss me off.
Its like they feel nothing for what happened 😂
Big spoiler warning



The angry Piasola glares at Reynold.
Sasha laughed at the usual scene.
And I remember.

"............I wonder if Haise could have become stronger with us if he hadn't been expelled."
"............"

Haise.
When the name comes up, Reynold and Piassola are not interesting.

"I don't know about that"
"What?"
"I don't know what kind of ability he woke up to. But... I think the trigger was because I was expelled and fought solo. It's a tough way to say it, but it was the right decision to expel him and let him do it solo. If it was with us, everyone would have been forced to protect.
"I agree. I think it's amazing that you became an S-class adventurer, but... If you're alone, you'll die sooner or later, right? Well, I wonder if he wants that too?
"........."

Sasha puts a cup of tea on the saucer.

"........."
_______
There was a line earlier in the story that Reynold said that his expulsion was out of kindness.

Kindness? You don’t get to decide that!

And force to protect him more like you just decide that he was weak and didn’t believe in him
he had a master class ability for crying out loud


Like that kind thinking grinds my gears

Cause it is only hindsight that Hyse unlock his ability because he left and only hindsight that you call it a accident and not a murder.

Like I’m glad Sasha tycoon and robin had is genuinely regretful, sad and remorseful and not just trying to get into Sasha pants.

but I am stun by these 2

Does this ever get refuted in the novel? Does Hyce ever tell them they're wrong or does anyone properly call them out on this bullshit or anything like that?

 

[SayHiTony]

The only pov I can imagine is her being busy or getting manipulated by someone , also guildmaster should be taken into account as being a guildmaster he would have displayed/issued some kind of notice for dragons(mc also went to that place next day, had plenty of time to get the news ) guildmaster rather than clearing up rumours spread by people he started telling sasha and party that the more they grew the more mc jealousy would grew (what kind of master are you ,spreading fires between them) , that Reynold guy might be in love with Sasha wanted to clear the mc , might be acting good in front of others or maybe he is actually good

If they actually address why she hasn't tried to speak to him for 2 years, I think this will turn out to be why. Reynolds and Piazolla will both have been convincing her that it's for the best to avoid him. But actually they both just want to twist events to justify everything that they've done, and also get in her pants. Sasha is just too dumb to see it.

 

[Rezael]

Does this ever get refuted in the novel? Does Hyce ever tell them they're wrong or does anyone properly call them out on this bullshit or anything like that?

if I remember correctly I think Presca calls out tykoon and robin. Sasha get calls out by hijri and eclipse. Sasha calls out herself a lot. And I think hyce calls them all out once during a big incident.

But it mostly just them they feel sad guilty and depressed about it or they think if only I found another way if only I hadn’t given up on him

 

[Bobdillan69]

it cause Hyse is standing next to her as an equal now and running past her at times. And Sasha isn’t looking down on him like before and is able to see more things about her child hood friend. Who he is now who he has become and who he was back then. Along with things he did to support her and how she depend on him for a lot things without realizing it.

A didn’t know what you had till you lost it vibe

Not really... (not using spoiler cause am not discussing spoilers)

p.s. not a rant, just my thoughts.

Sasha specifically never looked down on him. Reynold and that bitch (don't know her name, but well she acts like a bitch XD ) sure, but sasha? no.

She was just observing what was true. And that was he keeps almost dying, and she isn't confident she can protect him anymore. If she thought she could keep him safe she'd never have kicked him out, because he wasn't in the party with her purely because of his powers. (which I think is a mistake a lot are making, assuming this is like the other series, so they add context that was never there).

Like, she never cared if he was same, better, or below her in terms of power and skill. The issue was she couldn't keep compensating for what he lacked, which brought the fear of him dying, which she had seen so many times almost being the reality.

I don't know about you, but if I see someone I care about almost dying in front of me, not once, but many times, I'd do what I could to prevent that from happening.

You can also see this when she finds out about the dragon, she basically sh*ts herself, and is about to rush out to try and save him, but is stopped by his return. To which you see some relief which is interrupted by his misunderstanding.

Like... their issues, are all solve-able if they just sit down and talk (most are tbh), explaining their perspectives, and admitting fault. (which tbh, lies more on MC for not allowing her to clarify the truth).

MC wasn't actually that mad about her reasoning for booting him, and she just wants her friend back... the issue was the misunderstanding of perceived betrayal (trying to get him killed), to which MC probably feels guilty about, and she wants to talk to him, but also wants to leave him his space because she probably hates the way he looks at her currently.

You have MC being all preachy about her not talking to him much for 2 years... but... he never let her, she was trying to talk to him the moment it happened. So he's the one in the wrong there, straight up lying about her not trying to apologise, because that was literally the first thing she tried to do (honestly, it's a surprise she didn't hate herself and go solo emo like he did).

 

[wallsg]

Spoiler

don't worry, what i meant by "he did" isn't a red flag stuff, he basically just gets more chance to get closer to Sasha, way more compared to when Hyce still in the clan

them as a clan actually are like a family, so nothing bad you think of will happen
though, he did able to sway sasha heart by a really little amount, since he gets to keep making a move to woo her, it's unfortunate for him that sasha is as dense as a diamond

Diamond is hard but not particularly dense at 3.5 times as dense as water. Four elements they would have a lot of knowledge of, silver, lead, gold, and platinum, are 10.5, 11.34, 19.32, and 21.45 as dense as water respectively. Osmium is the densest natural element at 22.47 times as dense as water.

 

[Rezael]

Not really... (not using spoiler cause am not discussing spoilers)

p.s. not a rant, just my thoughts.

Sasha specifically never looked down on him. Reynold and that bitch (don't know her name, but well she acts like a bitch XD ) sure, but sasha? no.

.
yes but never recognize any of the effort he was putting in trying to help her. He himself knew there was a limited amount he could but he still wanted to help her. Yet endure abuse because of that. And you can look down on someone while not having bad intentions. Cause I agree Sasha is different from the other two
He did a lot for her and yet all she saw was someone who needed to be protected.

For example the dream: she wanted to make there dream come true thinking that Hyce would be fine and happy with reality then. But who on earth would be happy about something like that. He had a master class ability and yet she decided that it would have been impossible to do it with Hyce. And decide to do it herself. Thinking he would just accept that.

I get what you’re pointing out and I get the why. But with a dream like there’s I know I would rather die trying that giving up or being told too.

Yet Sasha took pity on him. Thinking it would be impossible and not wanting him to die wanted to fufill there dream herself for his sake thinking it would be better. And that he would be happy for her. But she never thought about how he would feel until it was too late


Don’t get me wrong I get why and I know she had his best interest at heart. But she did it in a terrible way

She was just observing what was true. And that was he keeps almost dying, and she isn't confident she can protect him anymore. If she thought she could keep him safe she'd never have kicked him out, because he wasn't in the party with her purely because of his powers. (which I think is a mistake a lot are making, assuming this is like the other series, so they add context that was never there).

Like, she never cared if he was same, better, or below her in terms of power and skill. The issue was she couldn't keep compensating for what he lacked, which brought the fear of him dying, which she had seen so many times almost being the reality.

Actually she did care. Regardless of the intention she kicked him out for being too weak. A big part of this is Sasha lack of honesty to hyce. There was a lot of things she was feeling at the time.yet instead of confiding in him he was the target of her stress

I don't know about you, but if I see someone I care about almost dying in front of me, not once, but many times, I'd do what I could to prevent that from happening.

Yes I get that. But there were other ways to do so. Or at the very least confide in him about her worries. Again instead doing so he became a target of stress relief. And while it True it would slow down the team progression. But he had the potential and the team only came to be because of Sasha and Hyce did he not deserve that chance?

You can also see this when she finds out about the dragon, she basically sh*ts herself, and is about to rush out to try and save him, but is stopped by his return. To which you see some relief which is interrupted by his misunderstanding.

Like... their issues, are all solve-able if they just sit down and talk (most are tbh), explaining their perspectives, and admitting fault. (which tbh, lies more on MC for not allowing her to clarify the truth).

I mean 90% of time story like can be solved by communication.

But I don’t agree with that it lies more on the mc

you’ll see in the web novel maybe future in the manga. That while he may throw insult at them from time to time. He never out right reject them, it more “I’m gonna do my thing I don’t care what you do”

MC wasn't actually that mad about her reasoning for booting him, and she just wants her friend back... the issue was the misunderstanding of perceived betrayal (trying to get him killed), to which MC probably feels guilty about, and she wants to talk to him, but also wants to leave him his space because she probably hates the way he looks at her currently.

No he still pretty mad about it just because he understands why doesn’t mean he accept it.

he even later admit to understanding it was accident but can’t accept it.
He got abandoned twice, the dream they shared was thrown away,nearly die, lost his eye, and got ghosted for 2 years
Those maybe easy things to understand but they aren’t easy thing to forgive

You have MC being all preachy about her not talking to him much for 2 years... but... he never let her, she was trying to talk to him the moment it happened. So he's the one in the wrong there, straight up lying about her not trying to apologise, because that was literally the first thing she tried to do (honestly, it's a surprise she didn't hate herself and go solo emo like he did).

That’s where your wrong here,

for the last 2 years he never once tried to stop her from speaking to him. In fact this just my guess it seem like he was waiting. But Sasha just pretend everything was normal they meet and even spoken to each other multiple times but it was brief conversation and that’s it. He never deined her any chance to speak to him. But she didn’t say anything pretend everything was normal. And since the day of the accident she was taking multiple job to keep her distance from him.

Now the reason why is because of her guilt and her fear of him. Which is understandable and I get why. Hyce wouldn’t have been a easy person to face at the time.

But she should’ve said something. Even if she was scorn and curse out this is your child hood friend who you nearly got killed. And he lost an eye because of you. Someone who suppose to be super important to you. And yet you don’t say a word for over 2 years. And only apologize when he in a position of power. It not surprising he reject her like that.

in the wn Novel hyce point out that Sasha only apologizing now meant that she was trying to silence him since a low class adventure had no influence but a s class adventure does and if he says anything now he could ruin sacred reputation. While not her intention and she even acknowledges that he has the right too. He made a good point of her apologizing now is what it seem like


All of that rage/beytral and hurt was building for 2 years. Is really shocking he reject her like he did

Or tell me put in his position would you feel differently

She should said something on the day even if she was terrified and felt intense guilt. This of my belief he would been able to accept it better and maybe forgive them or at the very least not have the relationship they do currently.

Btw I’m not a Sasha hater I actually quite like her character. But this also some of my thoughts along with what I know from the novel

 

[PachotheElf]

this series just keeps getting worse and worse. bottom of the barrel stuff already and then the shovels come out.

 

[SubjectT17]

Spoiler: Piazolla and Reynold

Did Sasha expell Piazolla and Reynold for gaslighting her or they are still in her party?

 

[SayHiTony]

if I remember correctly I think Presca calls out tykoon and robin. Sasha get calls out by hijri and eclipse. Sasha calls out herself a lot. And I think hyce calls them all out once during a big incident.

But it mostly just them they feel sad guilty and depressed about it or they think if only I found another way if only I hadn’t given up on him

Damn, I was hoping that someone called out Piazolla and Reynolds. Or there are some actual consequences for them or something.

 

[RatBrat]

The girl deserved to hear so more than that. I think MC went too easy on her...

 

[xAKLx]

Time does heal most wounds. Because of the constant spoiler discussions, I'm now here to see how Hyce and Sasha will interact and eventually reconcile just like you said, if we ever get to that point in the manga (am too lazy to read MTL novels).

not the lost eye tho..

 

[xAKLx]

Let's see where this will go.
I am sure they will become friends again but not before BOTH did learn their lesson.
she needs to be more directe if one of her teammates are dragging them down. it is better to SIT down and talk with them what to do next... instead for exiling them in a dumb way.

and he also needs to chill a little. to be a lone wolf is perhaps the best for him.. but in the end.. he just is lonely and will soon or later desire company. plus.. can he give the edgelord role a break? heh.

I love this comment. "Both need to learn their lesson". She because she is a gigantic bitch, him because I don't like his personality 😭 this is basically your commment LMAO

 

[xAKLx]

Spoiler: Sasha

She is pretty much an emotinally stunned battlejunky who harbors absolutely no malice. She is like a female Luffy. I pretty much believe she is on the spectrum as well. She can't comprehend others feelings unless directly told to her face. Like the confessions of Raynold and the lez saint. Hyce is hardened due to the "betrayal" and had to grow up early and alone because of it. Luckyly he had a solid foundation and didn't stray away from the moral path.

She however didn't experience anything of the sort because she is pretty much being "pampered" by her party. Like how she says she feels useless when she follows Hyce to the flying castle? Because all she does in the clan is paperwork and fight. She has absolutely ZERO people skills where as Hyce had to build himself up all on his own by trail and error. He understand what people are expecting of him but just chooses to ignore it because he doesn't really care enough most of the time (like in the case of elf who obviously loves him). But he chooses to train Claire for example because she was determined like he was and he doesn't want to cut off the weak because they are weak.

In short, she has ALOT of growing up to do before she can truely stand next Hyce. I don't know if the author is aware of this though.

such slander to Luffy... yes he is an idiot because he is emotionally intelligent, or to be more precise, he just understands people (ignoring the whisky peak incident), to the point that I think he has similar observation haki to Otohime. The way he just knows that Smoker is a good person even though all of their interaction has been negative is an indication of this, in general, he just gets people, and a lot of the time he knows what to say like when he puts Vivi in her place.