Saihate ni Madou - Vol. 2 Ch. 10

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this honestly so depressing, like yes he had his revenge. He killed that bastard. but that recording just shows how little that revenge actually was when it still happened. his sister went through that shit and is gone now. even if the bastard is good and dead, it still happened. shit mc is tougher than a lot of us for not khs
 
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Yknow what lil bro? Sorry about last chapter, u can stab her if she really just did nothing and saw that shit, stories so fucked i hope everyone burns in hell except for the older brother and mother at this point. Can't have shit in Japan
wasnt she a young child too tho. thats fucked up. shes a victim too. tho i will admit its fucked that she didnt tell the brother anything
 
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First I will state that Yuri killed herself after Shiika's father raped her
I know she did, but to me that counts murder since she didn't do it because she personally felt the need to end her life, she was pushed to her breaking point and beyond by him who directly led to her death to begin with. I don't know about your country, but here if someone is bullied or in some way pushed to take their life it's considered third degree murder minimum, with it even being pushed to first degree murder if it's discovered you intentionally pushed them to take their life with comments like "tu devrais juste te suicider (you should just commit suicide)" for example and their death being directly linked to these types of comments from you.

As far as Kazuma's mother I believe that she started taking care of Shiika in the institution when she learned that Shiika was an introvert who was afraid of everyone and that she didn't know that Shiika was the daughter of the man who raped her daughter which resulted in her son murdering him. The ideal that Sumira was jealous of Shiika because Kazuma's mother started paying more attention to her would have been enough of a reason for Sumira to be Jealous
This isn't even close to enough reason to do what she did. We know she is jealous of the mother not giving her attention as her favourite like she once did, but she has nothing to gain and everything to lose from doing this. Not only is this not in any way going to actually further her goal of being the favourite child again, it's only implicating her, or more likely whoever she obtained the phone from, of illegally withholding key evidence from a murder trial that could have easily lessened his sentence severely as penal code 199 states
第百九十九条人を殺した者は、死刑又は無期若しくは五年以上の懲役に処する。
with lenance for extenuating circumstances in which case the punishment can be reduced. And as he was only let out early due to good behavior at 7 years (meaning his original sentence was longer), this evidence absolutely would have reduced his sentence to the minimum of 5 years with potential to be released early by absolving the punishment after 3 years or less which has precendent. Not only that even disregarding all of this, she is currently not only in possession of child pornography (which even minors can be convicted of by distributing their own photographs or videos), which itself is considered a felony, she is also forcing someone to witness it against their will to induce emotional distress of which there are many laws for specific contexts it was done in with this even qualifying as torture without intent to kill or provoking someone to do a crime which by japanese law says you also are guilty of the same charges they did if they did the crime. No matter how you look at it she has no motive to do what she is doing and has every reason to refrain from doing it. It's plot contrivance on the author's part and nothing more.

I don't know what Shusuke would have over Sumira to cause her to play the recording for Kazuma
He doesn't have anything established to even suggest that. If anything it's portrayed as the opposite and she has power over him. The only reason given she plays it is because the kid messed up and she had to play her cards sooner than she wanted to. She always intended to play the card, just now she doesn't have the set up to some pay off she was hoping for that was never even hinted at being a thing before given she was previously bulling Shiika directly and as such had no qualms about just doing it to her face given she shoved her down a hill in broad daylight in front of passerbys. Her suddenly being coniving and going around Shiika's back while working with Shiika's brother is actually out of character for how she has been established to this point and as such doesn't even make sense in universe.

My question would be how could Sumire have came across Yuri's phone in Shiikas room and how did she know anything about what happened to Yuri, Kazuma, and Shiika's father? I also would like to know how she knows Shusuke! because in the Manga it doesn't look like they just met and based on how she talked about Shusuke she definitely knows how screwed up in the head that he is.
I do agree with all this since it came out of nowhere (probably due to the author just going "what if I did X?" and no one told them no for some reason), and most of the rest of it I agree with except this
So far I think that this psychological tragedy is well written
It's really not. I am a creative writing major so while I may not be the most skilled writer to ever exist by any means, I can still at least recognise when someone is just making things up as they go along and ran out of steam immediately because of it. Its a common trap new writers fall into where they don't figuratively draw a framework for how they want the main themes of the story to play out (i.e. from A sets up the foundation of the story which leads into B being the first theme being introduced to us which leads to C where an event relating to the theme is introduced and this then leads into stepping stones going into the action peak of the first event before then falling into resolution of this event and establishes a new more secure understanding of the theme that allows you to lead into the next event and tie more things together as you go, etc) and as such just get lost early on not knowing how to make the story coherrent because they never actually planned that far ahead to know what to lead into and what to set up to pay off later
 
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This chapter is incredibly confusing. Why are they trying to blame a child for someones rape and death? I don’t expect a child to know what to do or who to call if they see someone being raped or harmed. Shit, even children who are raped don’t know who to reach out to. So to blame an elementary schooler for this is really contrived.

Fuck Sumire and Shuusuke for demonizing a child for being a child. I’d bet these fuckers wouldn’t know what to do at that age either. Assuming the father was an abusive POS as well and that Shiika witnessed and/or experienced it, then why tf would she think to reach out for help?

I am going to ramble a bit more because this chapter is starting to become more retarded the more I think abt it. But this reminded me of The Case of Gabriel Fernandez, a kid who was horribly abused, with many adults failing to prevent his death. Gabriel had siblings who knew he was being beat but they were beat as well. They never reached out for help either. Would I blame them for their brothers death? Fuck no, they were victims as well. So why should Shiika know any better or be held to a higher standard?

If the MC DARES to look at Shiika as anything other than a victim, then I will lose all respect for him. It is just so contrived to believe a child is thinking that another person's suffering will be their way out of a situation. Theyre more likely to think that the abuser will just turn their aggression toward them. Lets hope author doesn’t force this drama
 
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This chapter is incredibly confusing. Why are they trying to blame a child for someones rape and death? I don’t expect a child to know what to do or who to call if they see someone being raped or harmed. Shit, even children who are raped don’t know who to reach out to. So to blame an elementary schooler for this is really contrived.
They probably aren't. They just want to make the MC think so because both want to break their relationship apart for different reasons ... and I agree this is fucked up. I personally don't think it will work though, at least not fully. When the brother threatened to hurt himself to make him look guilty his first reaction was to grab the knife with his bare hands because "he didn't want him to hurt himself". He is at the Core a good person who doesn't want anybody to get hurt.
 
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Solution: arrest Shuusuke. People who are criminals deserve jail. Or public execution.
 
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Ah this is garbage. It's just disgusting tragic shit for the sake of impact and that's it. Not interesting at all. Every single character, minus the mom, is just like caricatures of tragic stereotype.

Bitch, that fucking bombshell that you KNEW his sister was raped (in front of you no less) should be your number one priority to tell him. Who cares if the mom suddenly appear. THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT than dinner you idiot fuck. Set the record straight. Now it's going straight to misunderstanding drama bullshit.
To be fair, this COULD be what she wanted to talk to him about a few chapters back. Who knows. At this point, I just want to see all this sorted out. I am already too deep in to even drop it lol
 
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Judging by Shiika's reaction, it seems to be at least true that she used Yuri as a sacrifice to kill her own father. While I can condone her killing an abusive parent, if she really did use an irrelevant person to do so, then she truly is no better than her bastard of a father. If Sumire truly did this only to spite Shiika, she could've said the Shiika injured her that night. If Shiika truly is a manipulative bitch, then Shusuke should end her false happiness. Heck, Kazuma should've killed her when she walked into her father's corpse (but he didn't know). As for Shiika being too young to understand, she should at least know how her father abused her was painful, and that what he did to Yuri is also painful. And even if she didn't then, she is now capitalizing on the Waku family's tragedy for her own ill-gotten happiness. And for the phone being potential evidence, maybe Sumire just didn't want to hurt Mrs Waku any more. Unless Sumire and Shusuke are proven wrong, I have no sympathy left for Shiika.
 
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To be fair, this COULD be what she wanted to talk to him about a few chapters back. Who knows. At this point, I just want to see all this sorted out. I am already too deep in to even drop it lol
Could be. But it is DEFINITELY what she was going to tell him previous chapter. That's why I'm so miffed.
 
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This isn't even close to enough reason to do what she did. We know she is jealous of the mother not giving her attention as her favourite like she once did, but she has nothing to gain and everything to lose from doing this. Not only is this not in any way going to actually further her goal of being the favourite child again, it's only implicating her, or more likely whoever she obtained the phone from, of illegally withholding key evidence from a murder trial that could have easily lessened his sentence severely as penal code 199 states
In the manga it states that Sumire found the phone in Shiika's room. As for Sumira being jealous as you have stated it is spelled out very clearly in the Manga and it is well known that jealousy will cause people to do a myriad of stupid things. Jealousy has led people to commit murder (~12% of murders are committed due to Jealousy (The Atlantic 2024)) which is the most heinous crime one can commit. With extensive research showing that there are certain emotions are highly associated with criminal acts of violence. Some of the primal and instinctual emotions associated with violence are pride, jealousy, lust, and resentment. However, and consistent with the General strain theory (GST) of crime, contemporary research reveals that these human emotions are most likely to lead to violence and anger (Bonn, 2017). As far as Shiika not turning the phone over to the authorities she might have felt that it was her only connection to Kazuma (her possible savior).

with lenance for extenuating circumstances in which case the punishment can be reduced. And as he was only let out early due to good behavior at 7 years (meaning his original sentence was longer), this evidence absolutely would have reduced his sentence to the minimum of 5 years with potential to be released early by absolving the punishment after 3 years or less which has precendent. Not only that even disregarding all of this, she is currently not only in possession of child pornography (which even minors can be convicted of by distributing their own photographs or videos), which itself is considered a felony, she is also forcing someone to witness it against their will to induce emotional distress of which there are many laws for specific contexts it was done in with this even qualifying as torture without intent to kill or provoking someone to do a crime which by japanese law says you also are guilty of the same charges they did if they did the crime. No matter how you look at it she has no motive to do what she is doing and has every reason to refrain from doing it. It's plot contrivance on the author's part and nothing more.
News paper clipping of Kazuma getting 7 years which shows that Kazuma did his full time and didn't get out with good behavior.

There wasn't any video shown on the phone but just a voice recording that was played and without the pictures it is hard to prove that she had child pornography. The one picture they did show was a picture of Shiika with a bruise on her back which would have shown the child abuse by her father. I would also like to know why this was on Yuri's phone. It would make you think that she was collecting evidence to call CPS on Shiika's father about the abuse occurring to Shiika. Sumira is doing this as she is jealous of Shiika, because Shiika has stolen the one person in her life that was paying any attention to her and as I said previously that is enough of a motive to commit a crime even murder.
It's really not. I am a creative writing major so while I may not be the most skilled writer to ever exist by any means, I can still at least recognise when someone is just making things up as they go along and ran out of steam immediately because of it. Its a common trap new writers fall into where they don't figuratively draw a framework for how they want the main themes of the story to play out (i.e. from A sets up the foundation of the story which leads into B being the first theme being introduced to us which leads to C where an event relating to the theme is introduced and this then leads into stepping stones going into the action peak of the first event before then falling into resolution of this event and establishes a new more secure understanding of the theme that allows you to lead into the next event and tie more things together as you go, etc) and as such just get lost early on not knowing how to make the story coherrent because they never actually planned that far ahead to know what to lead into and what to set up to pay off later
I don't think that there is a problem so far with the way the author is writing the Manga. So far the author has given you a novel plot with a few side stories to keep interest in the overall plot, which is a man being released from prison after killing a pedophile and upon arriving home he is now confronted with the daughter of the man he killed. He later finds that his mother plans to adopt this girl and make her a part of the family. After this new revelation a few sub plots begin to emerge such as her being bullied at the orphanage and now her half-brother appearing out of the blue. So far the sub-plots have supported the overall plot and came back around to provide new information to the main plot. With the main plot and sub-plots being surrounded by the main themes of family (destruction and rebuilding), guilt, anger, fear, and jealousy. As a creative writer I would think that you would have appreciated how well the author has written the manga thus far.

I don't want to be rude or condescending, but I think that you should try to read the manga again in its entirety so far and not just read the chapter that was just released. I think that a lot of your confusion so far could be related to when they released Chapters 7.1, 7.2, 8.1, 8.2, 9.1, and 9.2 which had a few missing pages between each continuation.

So far I have enjoyed this manga as it is not a cookie cutter of the many manga's that are out there.
 
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That's disgusting, but surprisingly still better than my worst assumption, I thought Shiika purposely handed/sacrificed Yuka to her father as a replacement for her
 
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In the manga it states that Sumire found the phone in Shiika's room.
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We have no proof that this is true and even less evidence to even suggest it could be possible given we can actually see Yuri's room and not only do we not see the phone just randomly out there in the open when he walks in on her, but her corpse had to be removed and neither him nor his mother were in any state to do that + the police would be called in to investigate meaning there is no way her phone would magically be hidden in a spot Sumire or Shiika can somehow find it but no one else could and not only that find it while not a single person noticed either sneak into the room. Which would be even more weird given one of those two is the daughter of the main suspect, and both would be of similar ages meaning them being so small would have stuck out and made people want to prevent them from seeing Yuri.

As for Sumira being jealous as you have stated it is spelled out very clearly in the Manga and it is well known that jealousy will cause people to do a myriad of stupid things. Jealousy has led people to commit murder (~12% of murders are committed due to Jealousy (The Atlantic 2024))
I'm assuming you mean this article which you didn't feel like just hyperlinking which doesn't even support what you said since it says
About a third of the time, the couple had argued right before the homicide took place, and about 12 percent of the deaths were associated with jealousy.
which is information from here with The Atlantic not even linking to their source (with the USA CDC one having 10 citations and is very weirdly formated so I have no idea if these citations are even legitmate), all types of homocide combined 12% is jealousy related like you claim. The USA CDC one is also only talking about minority groups in the south-east of the US specifically with two outliers in the north-west which is a really specific pool of study that is oddly excluding huge populations of the ethnicities they are focusing on (which is suspicious) and by no means indicative of IPV-homocides more generally even within the USA. So if we instead go to look at an actual peer reviewed paper citing 68 sources we see that none of this even begins to hold up or is even suggested to be 12% given the only 12 it mentions in data are 12 non-felony cases and 0.12% of unknown sex or gender among suicides amongst victims of IPV. Please don't just cherry pick to attempt to prove a non-existent point.

which is the most heinous crime one can commit
you know our protagonist here committed murder right?

With extensive research showing that there are certain emotions are highly associated with criminal acts of violence.
which you link none of....

Some of the primal and instinctual emotions associated with violence are pride, jealousy, lust, and resentment. However, and consistent with the General strain theory (GST) of crime,
the GST actually says pride, jealousy, and resentment are present in both women and men with them being attributed exclusively to men and subsequently violent crime being a male only response to stress with lust never being mentioned. And on top of that it completely ignores women who commit violence or women in general who show stress responses that are attributed to men here. Which is all the biggest critique basically everyone has with GST that it is extremely complex to point of being virtually untestable with the theory itself never actually even explaining the why does someone commit a crime(s). Is it because socially they are pushed to be more violent and as such will have larger degrees of violence? Is it because there is some societal pressure pushing people to be possessive of things that leads to violent outbursts from not being taught how to manage stress? No one knows because even Robert Agnew, the creator of GST, doesn't know.

contemporary research reveals that these human emotions are most likely to lead to violence and anger (Bonn, 2017)
again which you never link and I don't know what Bonn, 2017 could be since there is no papers labeled that so the only thing I can assume is you maybe mean this? If so this is not an actual paper, its a blog on a psychology magazine site and has no sources or credits meaning he just made it up himself, self published to advertise his book, and has no proof any of what he says is true

As far as Shiika not turning the phone over to the authorities she might have felt that it was her only connection to Kazuma (her possible savior).
again this ignores how she even got the phone in the first place which was in Yuri's room when she died and as such Shiika would not be able to even get there given she has never even been to their house as no one recognises her or knew she was friends with Yuri so either this is a major retcon, a complete oversight on the author, or is not possible. This is especially true since we know he says "they never found the phone" meaning they looked for it in the first place

There wasn't any video shown on the phone but just a voice recording that was played and without the pictures it is hard to prove that she had child pornography.
there is nothing requiring video or photography to be child pornography when "phone sex" and "sexting" a child being considered child pornography even in Japan. And even disregarding that she outright admits to what the recording is and as such admits to having. In my country article 163.1 of the criminal penal code states
any written material, visual representation or audio recording that advocates or counsels sexual activity with a person under the age of eighteen years that would be an offence under this Act
any audio recording that has as its dominant characteristic the description, presentation or representation, for a sexual purpose, of sexual activity with a person under the age of eighteen years that would be an offence under this Act.
to which she absolutely falls under

The one picture they did show was a picture of Shiika with a bruise on her back which would have shown the child abuse by her father
everyone knows she is a victim here and blaming her is absurd by any means

I would also like to know why this was on Yuri's phone. It would make you think that she was collecting evidence to call CPS on Shiika's father about the abuse occurring to Shiika
while she may have been doing this, the actual recording never suggests this as when Sumire plays the audio it immediately plays her screams which means it's either edited (which is tampering with evidence of a rape) or was specifically recorded to record her screams. Either way it makes no sense why it was on her phone as if the father took it then it would make no sense he would allow her to leave with the phone or alive for that matter given the crime of rape in japanese has the same consequences as homicide does in the japanese penal code
第百七十七条十三歳以上の者に対し、暴行又は脅迫を用いて性交、肛門性交又は口腔性交(以下「性交等」という。)をした者は、強制性交等の罪とし、五年以上の有期懲役に処する。十三歳未満の者に対し、性交等をした者も、同様とする。
第百七十八条人の心神喪失若しくは抗拒不能に乗じ、又は心神を喪失させ、若しくは抗拒不能にさせて、わいせつな行為をした者は、第百七十六条の例による。
第百七十九条十八歳未満の者に対し、その者を現に監護する者であることによる影響力があることに乗じてわいせつな行為をした者は、第百七十六条の例による。
第二百四十一条強盗の罪若しくはその未遂罪を犯した者が強制性交等の罪(第百七十九条第二項の罪を除く。以下この項において同じ。)若しくはその未遂罪をも犯したとき、又は強制性交等の罪若しくはその未遂罪を犯した者が強盗の罪若しくはその未遂罪をも犯したときは、無期又は七年以上の懲役に処する。
2前項の場合のうち、その犯した罪がいずれも未遂罪であるときは、人を死傷させたときを除き、その刑を減軽することができる。ただし、自己の意思によりいずれかの犯罪を中止したときは、その刑を減軽し、又は免除する。
3第一項の罪に当たる行為により人を死亡させた者は、死刑又は無期懲役に処する。
which says he could have even gotten the death sentence which is execution by noose and is noteably what our protagonist would have gotten given he committed aggravated murder which has a guarenteed sentence of execution, but was reduced to normal homocide due to understanding he did it in response to his sister being raped and from there reduced even further in a lienant sentence

Sumira is doing this as she is jealous of Shiika
Her name is Sumire not Sumira, and just being jealous doesn't give you the right to traumatise someone who is not even related to her goal given her actual goal, as she states herself, is that she doesn't dislike Shiika because she stole the limelight from herself. She dislikes her because she specifically sees Shiika as a murder. Not her father is a murder. Not her soon-to-be brother is a murder (who she knows is convicted of murder). Not that her father is rapest. No she thinks specifically Shiika is a murderer and murdered Yuri. Something so outlandish even my argument of her father being a murderer by my country's laws and not Japan's penal code which would say he wasn't a murder sounds like a solid argument in the 最高裁判所 since her argument would get thrown out as nonsense in a heartbeat.

because Shiika has stolen the one person in her life that was paying any attention to her and as I said previously that is enough of a motive to commit a crime even murder
that isn't why she dislikes Shiika in the slightest given in her own words she is fine with not being the mother's favourite since she just wants her to be happy. And the one time you actually link a source it's to a news article with no citations.... You know I said it before, but please stop cherry picking as all its doing is proving your confirmation bias and making you look like a texas sharpshooter instead of actually providing real solid evidence to prove your point and show there is a correlation there. Since everything you've shown at absolute best has been circumstance evidence with no broad correlation you claim there to be, and at worse it's falsified or missleading data that comes to it's conclusion via texas sharpshooting which is not proving anything....

I don't think that there is a problem so far with the way the author is writing the Manga. So far the author has given you a novel plot with a few side stories to keep interest in the overall plot, which is a man being released from prison after killing a pedophile and upon arriving home he is now confronted with the daughter of the man he killed. He later finds that his mother plans to adopt this girl and make her a part of the family. After this new revelation a few sub plots begin to emerge such as her being bullied at the orphanage and now her half-brother appearing out of the blue. So far the sub-plots have supported the overall plot and came back around to provide new information to the main plot. With the main plot and sub-plots being surrounded by the main themes of family (destruction and rebuilding), guilt, anger, fear, and jealousy.
none fo this is even remotely true to what you are trying to say. Just because you like something doesn't mean it can't be bad. Right now we have a story that starts a plot with a man murders someone 7 years prior to then be released in the present time of the story with a little girl having caught him that prevented him from taking his life immediately after which is set up for the reveal not long after of this being his new little sister to be.

This then leads to him wanting to die due to being consumed by guilt which is latter payed off by showing him having a panic attack from his guilt consuming him in public when they are eating together as a family. He wants his new little sister to be to kill him to release him of his curse of not being punished enough in his mind as he promised to meet Yuri in the after life and has not for over 7 years now, to which she freaks out as anyone would but she pretends to not be actually the child of his murder "victim" to set up a reveal that isn't actually a reveal given the mother confirms its her when they first meet.
This making the whole pretending to be not her pointless with it just serving to create tension and drama between them when both know the other knows and as such the tension of "is she is she not?" is non-existent and is only there because the author tells you (or forgot they revealed it) where the actual tension should absolutely be a daughter living with her father's murderer and the murderer likewise having to live with someone who he sees as a victim of his crime (which she actually is) and sees Yuri in her which clouds his ability to process her being here as he already lost one sister he never got ot process the grief for so having another sister that he himself caused to suffer (in his mind) is just double the strain on his already fragile mental state.

This right here absolutely should have been the focus entirely instead of being the underlying theme that turned into the focus since this was actually what made me praise this manga originally for showing how traumatic grief is and how japan is incredibly bad at helping people with mental health especially after a traumatic even so a japanese author calling attention to that is very nice to see given it is a common complaint the japanese themselves voice. In japan people are so hestitant to even say they're depressed they will actually go to a doctor and ask for a medical record saying they have a unspecified disease which they will then refer to as a disease instead since no one will take them seriously if they don't and just say it's a mental health problem. It's that bad. So bringing attention to that via some of the worst circumstances one could suffer it is a great premise to use and expand upon. Unfortunately this isn't what happens.
 
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I don't think that there is a problem so far with the way the author is writing the Manga. So far the author has given you a novel plot with a few side stories to keep interest in the overall plot
(character count counts your quote too) (2/3)
What actually happens is we get a great set up of he wants to die, attemps to get Shiika to kill him, writes his note shortly after getting home, and after a few days of being home goes to attempt only to have his attempt thwarted by his little sister-to-be who instead of playing out in his nightmares of her being angry and hateful towards him, is desperate to not let him die since she wants to be his family. He is confused but after some convincing accepts he can be her big brother if not for his sake or her sake then for Yuri's sake who wouldn't want him to suffer like this. This allows him to finally accept she is gone and never going to come back which is the start of him healing which is properly shown to not be immediate with the effects of grief being strong and long lasting in the scene I mentioned before of him having a panic attack because his guilt consumes him causing him to have auditory hallucinations which leads to him having a panic attack and them having to leave because of it which only makes him feel like a failure for "ruining" their family time together that leads to him wanting to attempt immediately after. Which that is a very realistic display of how grief really is. I've lost friends, family, and even a lover to taking her life so I know first hand just how badly grief crushes you and I have had to see therapy for a decade now and still am no where near the point I would call myself mentally stable from it. So him having on support for 3/4 of a decade is absolutely going to leave psychological scars and make him extremely mentally unstable which is actually what we see so again credit to the author for such a realistic display of grief through the entire manga. This then leads into Shiika dragging him in to her room and on her bed to have a heart to heart conversation about the entire thing that leads into him talking to his mother about what he talked to her about and finally being allowed to have some closure about Yuri's death not being his fault. This then leads to him witnessing Shiika get bullied, getting triggered by his wanting to help save her from harm's way as the last time he did this was for Yuri when he murdered the teacher to avenge her. His hesitation results in Shiika being shoved down a steep hill by Sumire which results in him losing control of himself seeing his little sister being hurt by someone again so he nearly assaults Sumire before Shiika can stop him from committing another crime and being sent back to prison. This only reinforces his trigger from earlier and reassures him that he is indeed as terrible as he believes himself to be. He is assured by Shiika he isn't a monster and she doubles down to prevent him from arguing against it. They drive home and she convinces him to not die like I said which allows him to accept her passing by mentally hearing her voice saying she forgives him which symbolically represents himself forgiving himself which is the first step to actually accepting what happened. They stop at a コンビニ which we call corner stores here. He snoops through her bag after it conviently falls down only to find what should have been the actual set up earlier when she was faking not knowing what he was talking about (that her father was murdered) which is that she knew who he was this entire time, but not only knew she was anticipating his release and planned meticulously for it to some still unexplained reason 6 chapters later (which is a lot for this manga given it's pacing). This leads into chapter 5 with the christmas party where we see Shiika has begun to act more like a little sister, but that we also now see why Sumire was bulling Shiika earlier last chapter and also show her true motivations are and have never been jealousy. She calls Shiika a monster who brings misery to those she interacts with which doesn't get brought up again till chapter 10 where she again reinforces this by saying the only reason she doesn't want Shiika around the mother is because she is a murderer who she previously stated here in chapter 5 causes misery to others. So its not jealousy but a desire to protect someone she cherishes from a percieved threat. Sumire then tells Shiika something who reacts badly to it before dragging her to another room with this likely being she knows her secret or that she is in someway a problem for her new family given when she runs out after scratching or possibly ripping teh earring out of Sumire's ear she reiterates what Sumire said earlier in that she brings misery to others which is where volume 1 ends where we get an actual date to figure out how old Yuri is. Here it says Yuri was around Shiika age at the time of the murder in 2001 while we know the murder happened in 2015 as her notebook says that it's 2017 at the time of writing and that he will be relased in five years which means two years of his seven year sentence were passed at this point and murder trials in japan move incredibly quickly especially one here where he like admitted to it and all the evidence pointed to him. The forum posts he finds on either 2ちゃんねる or possibly 5ちゃんねる (due to in 2014 a site take over resulted in the original splitting into two different sites who dispute to this day which is the legitmate one) also say 2016 with the events being referred to in a way (in the original japanese at least) that the events had happened quite some time ago with it being considered an older case at that point meaning it being a year prior would make sense with the dates of these posts also being 31st of August which is noteworthy because Shiika's notebook says the 30th of August suggesting the 30-31st of August is the anniversary of his sentencing. Meaning at the time of her death Yuri was over the age of 14 (2015-2001 is 14 years) with her age in the pictures of her back in 2001 suggesting she is around four years old as she is able to stand and walk perfectly where two and three year olds would struggle to walk around and stand while also being chubbier due to starting to lose their baby fat at this time. He also looks to around 6-7 in this picture which given he is specially 20 in his sentencing that means he would have to be born in 1995 and as such be six which adds up. This doesn't add up with her actual age shown in the manga prior though where she is clearly a secondary school student and by the looks of it and her going to cram school she is likely around 14-15 in these pictures as this would be when students graduate 中学 and work towards passing the entrance exams to go to 高校 which we know is not possibly given she was born prior to 2001 and was close in age to her bother making her likely 4 and born in 1997 just two years later which means should would actually be 19 by the time of the sentence in 2015 so unless they just happened to delay the trial for a massive 4-5 years (which never happens with homocide cases given even a year is considered a long time to convict someone for anything in japan) her age doesn't add up in the slightest given her portrayed age at her death is 14 which the author explicitly shows to not be true by directly calling attention to 2001 and her being a bit older there already. This right here just screams the author simply forgot to double check things and made a continuity error which is some of the simplest things to notice and fix when you're on such a small amount of information present. When you have a lot of information like how long running TV series tend to be then yes you need a dedicated continuity advisor to keep track of it for you, but with this where there is so lttle information even present so far that shouldn't have ever been an issue. Back in chapter 6 we see he plays what she said again in his head before flashbacking to help Sumire to establish that even if he is mentally unstable, traumatised, and a murderer he still is a soft hearted and gentle person who wants to help others around him. Here we get Sumire protecting Shiika for no apparent reason (and is even less apparent after ch10 where she does the exact opposite by purposefully trying to assassinate Shiika's reputation), but our protagonist runs out after also not calling her out only to be haunted by the mental image of Yuri showing he is still haunted by his past with a specific detail of him looking up at the transmission towers above only to see that the corpse of Yuri that previously he hallucinated to be there is no longer there showing he no longer things she hates him. He finds Shiika and they have a heart to heart only for him to accidental confess that he read her notebook and knows some of her secret which causes her to panic and nearly fall to her death which again continues the set up for a reveal of what her deal with him is. He catches her and tells her he won't let her die but says it in a way that has double meaning that means he is speaking to Yuri and Shiika implying they're overlapping in his mind (I don't have the second volume so can't check the japanese). He pledges to protect her till he dies and we see this time it's Shiika that hallucinates Yuri on the transmission tower where she sits watching over them symbolically representing her watching over them as a guardian angel or from the heavens above while also showing a painful reminder that both are traped by their pasts unable to escape their own minds. Everything till this point has been fairly good. It has issues with things that don't make sense but is largely enjoyable. Past this point however things become an absolute mess... The brother is introduced here briefly before we go to chapter 7 where Sumire is confronted by both Shiika and our protagonist about last time when Shiika hurt her and she defended Shiika to which she brushes off his concern and tries to walk away while pouting but relatively positive towards him. Shiika on the other hand she brushes off her apologising as she supposedly doesn't care and leaves without another word and a doll like look. She then walks with her friends not saying anything till she begins to part with them and meets someone who we can't see but is revealed later to be the brother. Her face immediately becomes grim showing she is in no one pleased about him being there. The entire section with the brother makes no sense since okay lets do Shiika's age here for a moment. She was roughly 4-5 when her father was murdered, meaning at ~6 she wrote the notebook section we see and when he finally releases it has been 7 years meaning she is now 11 which adds up with her appearance as we see when her mother took her in with her brother she still has a ランドセル which is noteable as you would stop using this around grade 6 which is when they would be about 11 since 7th grade (first year of 中学) is when you're 12 and grade 1 is required the first april after becoming 6 meaning she would likely be in her first year of 小学校 at that time. Her brother however is said to be near her age yet is not wearing a ランドセル and is quite a deal taller than her. Boys actually go through puberty after girls do (girls go through it starting at 8 while boys usually don't begin to until 11 or 12) and combined with his lack of a ランドセル implies his is already in 中学 and as such is 12 at this time which would give him at least a year of puberty to have a growth spurt. If this is actually the case and not another case of a continuity error, this would mean he is roughly 5-6 years older than her and as such if she is 11 he would be 16-17 in ch8 which would explain why he considers himself an adult. He talks to his mother while the brother and Shiika talk we see again that he sees himself as an outsider unable to properly be family to anyone. One thing I do wanna note here is while the brother is a complete sterotypical moustache twirling villain who is so blatantly evil it is hard to take seriously in the slightest, the conversation the family has about adoption is actually extremely real. I've gone through the adoption process to adopt a daughter only for the birth parents to come out of nowhere just like here and say they want to take their child back who was in foster care for 8 years from shortly after birth and we had been working on the adoption process for over 2 years with her staying for the weekends for 2 of those years. I reacted just like the mother does here in ch8 with my daughter acting like Shiika here and seeing them as complete strangers coming to steal her away and was terrified, but there wasn't anything any of us could do. With adoption cases blood is always favoured by the courts and its extremely hard to win for an adoption custody case even if you're a blood related relative nevermind not one. And this is something I found out is fairly common due to a support group for parents who wanted to adopt but had similar experiences and needed others to talk to and understand their pain of losing their child. So this here... this was so well written that ch7 and the rest of ch8 actually ruins the moment that should have been the focus of the arc with the brother and instead be an arc of how Shiika is soon to be adopted, but might have it ripped from her hands and show how adopted children actually do see their adopted families as their true familes with their blood families being strangers to them. Adoption is not easy and is very thorough with the process being to make it so the child bonds with the family and if you're unable to bond it won't be allowed to go through. This is why people prefer infants when adopting as it's way less strict to adopt one where any child with a sense of self conciousness will have their autonomy respected and their happiness and safety are the most important factors. That here is also what the mother recognises being a foster care worker who immediately puts her feelings aside and tries to suppress her pain, shock, fear, etc and focuses entirely on what would be best for little Shiika even if she personally doesn't want to lose her. This would have made an amasing arc to help further reinforce the main themes and focus on the plot. But no of course that's not allowed since instead we get the brother being a cartononishly evil villain which is then revealed to be he is simply a henchman of the actual true villain who is Sumire with both of them working together to assassinate Shiika's reputation and forcibly evict her for two completely different reasons that just happen to coincide with one another (Sumire's is and has always been Shiika is a monster causing misery to others and so she wants her gone, while Shuusuke's is just pure obsession with his little sister to an almost fetishistic level).
 
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At the end of ch8 we get the set up for Sumire acting completely out of character by now stalking Kazuma and warning him Shuusuke is dangerous and could potentially harm Waku which makes no sense for her to be so non-challant about saying given her entire reason for disliking Shiika is she considered Shiika to A.) be a monster, B.) to be causing misery to others and her specifically causing misery to Waku is the trigger for Sumire to not like her and want to seperate them, and finally C.) she believes Shiika herself is a murderer (yet is seemingly okay with Kazuma who she knows is a murderer as well) and her being a murderer is why she is a monster that causes others misery (yet again none of this is attributed to Kazuma which doesn't make sense even if we consider the angle of her being jealous and this is a result of that since she would be just as jealous of Kazuma who is stealing attention from Waku even further being her own biological son that was locked away, her last direct connection to her late daughter Yuri, and is someone she focuses on even more than she focuses on Shiika which Sumire would know given she apparently has read the script and understands this is all for the sake of plot convience). So this makes three causes of continuity not adding up for the exact same scene given she is fine with Shuusuke potentially hurting Waku, she is okay with Kazuma being an actual convicted murderer, but is somehow not okay with Shiika who she considers an unconvicted murderer who got away free and is likely to harm Waku if she is allowed to be around her. None of this adds up and is completely out of nowhere for her character as established up till this point in ch9 and is only more so during ch10. Kazuma then goes home only to see Shuusuke and call him out on lying to which Shuusuke twirls his hair like one would a moustache and claims he's been doing so well at faking it yet in this same scene just four pannels prior he is seen sitting 正座 which would make him be screaming in pain if his ankle was actually hurt like he claims so even if Kazuma didn't know at this point just doing that alone would give it away.... Swear this author doesn't even try to make anything this boy does even slightly believeable... Shuusuke then gives up the act and villain monologues about how evil he sees Kazuma as only for Kazuma to not care and just say he is trying to atone for his past now. Shuusuke just gets annoyed and upgrades his villain monologue to expositing his evil dastardly plan to ruin Kazuma's life and send him back to prison (that wouldn't even work in the first place given even if he did all that and Kazuma let him, it wouldn't even have any of Kazuma's finger prints on it and as such be a dead give-a-way Kazuma didn't do it and it was falsely trying to get another person punished by the law which is illegal
第百七十二条人に刑事又は懲戒の処分を受けさせる目的で、虚偽の告訴、告発その他の申告をした者は、三月以上十年以下の懲役に処する。
and as such this too is yet another case in ch9 and ch10 where the motives just make no fucking sense given just like Sumire in ch10 he has nothing to gain and everything to lose given even the topic of his parents knowing his whereabouts is met with aggression and fear meaning his mother and potentially step father finding him would end badly for him and once he gave away that fact he gave them a massive weapon against him in the form of just simply reporting him to the police as a runaway or missing child found which would get him dragged back to his parent(s). And as we see in ch10 his motives for wanting Shiika to himself make even less sense given he is etither trying to assault her with a deadly weapon, kill her so no one else can have her, or commit homocide-suicide like Kazuma originally intended though here it is to evade repercussions rather than wanting to simply just die. Kazuma then stands up to this unruly child and tells him hurting himself isn't allowed to which Shuusuke just... gives up? He had a knife, still has it in fact and going by ch10 was given it back, and has this evil plain to indited Kazuma to get rid of him for... what reason exactly? His evil plan of getting rid of Kazuma doesn't even make sense given it's the mother who is applying for custody not mr big brother-to-be here. And on top of this he just tells Kazuma his little sister, that he is trying to fight Kazuma, Kazuma's mother, his own mother seemingly, possibly his step father if he has one, and the law to get to live with him alone, is an evil murderer that killed Yuri... yet he was the one demonising Kazuma ten pages prior! He even called Kazuma horrible because of being a murderer who couldn't protect his little sister [Yuri], yet here he is saying his little sister [Shiika] is in fact a murderer herself and that Shiika is horrific because of it and he should absolutely hate her guts and think she is big evil meanie head who stole his little sister [Yuri] from him which completely contridicts his entire fight with Kazuma and Kazuma's mother over Shiika in the first place !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shamihuh::notlikethis: After this is chapter 10 which I already established is absolute garbage, but here's what happens. Shiika and her mother-to-be come home to find Kazuma has bandaged his hand and sucks at lying since he says nothing happened, Shuusuke just mysteriously got better and decided to go home, and that it definitely wasn't related to Shuusuke in the slightest his hand got messed up but instead was the vase on the altar having broken even though that is the same vase as before and is still intact haven't never broken and they could easily verify this by just looking in the trubbish to find that there is no vase in it. Anyway we continue on from here to Shuusuke having told Kazuma to meet him only to find Shuusuke is talking to Sumire who is back to being violent again, but this time makes even less sense than in ch7 where she just brushed off Shiika after having bullied her a bunch till then. Here she gets physically violent with Shuusuke for snitching and while she emphasises Waku here I'll get to that in a second. The important thing to note is she says she doesn't want him to say it period. Not to Shiika. Not to Kazuma. And especially not to Waku. Shuusuke finds it weird she is so hard set on defending Waku since she is a stranger, but the thing is this makes even less sense than he implies since its not only she is a "stranger" (which here is implying Waku not being blood related makes her someone who shouldn't matter given Shuusuke's obsession with blood relations), but that Sumire's entire thing so far is and continues to be even past this that she wants Shiika to be seperated from Waku and not telling Waku something and showing her something like that but instead doing it to Kazuma who would be far less likely to convince his mother to stop doesn't even make sense for her own goal as this is twice she has defended Shiika only to later bring harm to her reputation roundaboutly after directly assaulting Shiika with it being heavily implied this is a common occurance with the ease of her doing it and the willingness of Shiika to defend her without even crying out in pain. So her being adamant that Waku can't find out about Shiika but also having the goal of removing Shiika from Waku because of her perception of Shiika being a monster doesn't make sense as that involves protecting Shiika, the person she thinks is a murderer, while also demonising murderers. And this entire thing has another massive issue: the entire thing exists purely to draw attention away from the guilt of Shiika's father and to defend him and imply he is an innocent victim since in fact it was secretly Shiika's fault and Kazuma's fault for being murderers! He's a fucking rapest are you shitting me?!?!?! Why is the author so adamant about defending a 40 year old man from his very serious crime aside from the fact the author has a rape festish given he has drown hentail doujins previously of adult men raping little girls which is only reinforced by his graphic sexual display of the events which did not ever need to be shown. After this Kazuma is shown flinching and being hesitant around Shiika which makes no sense since he even said himself the reason Yuri died was because of Shiika's father and to immediately turn on a coin to be suspicious of Shiika simply because someone said so without even offering a shred of proof is beyond inane. There is no way he should ever believe Shiika, who has been nothing but nice and caring to him, and knowing what he does of Yuri's death, would ever suspect her even with others claiming she is the murderer since again she was 4-5 years old. There is no way you can reasonable suspect a child that young to do anything when even a much older child is unable to resist the assailant. That's the definition of victim shaming and blaming at that point. Kazuma then meets with Sumire who expressly states she can never forgive Shiika for being a murderer while heavily implying she is tricking Waku by seeming pitiful and innocent while supposedly not being due to being a murderer. She then just takes out Yuri's phone and a few things happen here. First she confirms she can access Yuri's phone without a passsword which makes absolutely no sense as no one would have a phone with no password especially in 2014-2015 and actively is in 中学 possibly preparing for 小学校 as kids around this age become highly secretive and desire privacy quite a lot (not to mention not having a password on your phone period is a good way to get people snooping through it). Kazuma confirms the phone was missing and never found She then shows a picture of Yuri with Shiika when Shiika was very young. This then proceeds into the worst part of this entire story easily where she without warning plays the recordings for him to listen to to somehow prove Shiika is an evil murderer when all it does is prove the father is evil yet she somehow tries to drag the attention away from the father and to Shiika and in doing so avoid demonising the father by instead Demonising a young child. Not only that she is playing this on speaker for anyone to hear to which someone would have definitely heard that through the door and immediately assume it to be Sumire or potentially Shiika and come trying to open the door (which they would have the key to) and barge in on whatever this was meant to be. But also during this entire time Sumire is completely unphased by the recordings themselves (what a fucking monster...). And these recordings make even less sense given we see on the recordings Kazuma himself immediately notices a sobbing little girl and Shiika's apologies meaning Sumire can also clearly hear these and doesn't care and still things no not the father is evil it must clearly be this ltitle girl ! Are you kidding me? This doesn't even make the slightest bit of sense unless she is actively on the father's side which is not established at all and would make even less sense than anything she's done so far. She doesn't even look slightly perturbed about having seen or heard any of this nor is she for having to show and let him hear it either. She's just moderately annoyed she has to expedite her plans. It's not until she gives the man a fucking mentally breaks the poor man that she begins to look uncomfortable. And even then this is then followed by her looking on the phone at a clearly abused Shiika which she has seen before and heard this recording before and just doubles down even harder even after hearing this distraught man after what can only be described as torture, and is just completely self assured Shiika is the monster here. No one else. Definitely Shiika. Absolutely is Shiika. It doesn't even begin to click in her head doing this makes her even worse than Shiika is even if everything she said is absolutely true. She is just completely assured that nothing that adds up completely adds up and every obvious warning sign and red flag is invisible and totally doesn't exist which is a level of contrivance I rarely see. There is no excuse for any of this besides the author simply wanted to defend their stance that raping little girls is totally fine.

As a creative writer I would think that you would have appreciated how well the author has written the manga thus far.
In what way should anyone appreciate such a terrible written story that is full of so many plot holes and contrivances all while trying to defend a rapest ever chance they get with the only conclusion to be taken from that is by seeing the author's history and realising this is projection...

I don't want to be rude or condescending, but I think that you should try to read the manga again in its entirety so far and not just read the chapter that was just released. I think that a lot of your confusion so far could be related to when they released Chapters 7.1, 7.2, 8.1, 8.2, 9.1, and 9.2 which had a few missing pages between each continuation.
I read every update for ch7-10 (Senko-san's AbodeHunlight Scans's are an actual proper translation as Solaeter Scans's are full of translation errors with an obvious one being they thought あの人 meant Kazuma when the context made it obvious it was about Waku who she just said and so would be a reply to) as well as own the raws for volume one, and yeah no. No it doesn't. The confusion is still there because it's an absolute mess to understand any of it due to none of it making any sense.

So far I have enjoyed this manga as it is not a cookie cutter of the many manga's that are out there.
You can enjoy whatever you want even if it's objectively bad like I said earlier. I have guilty pleasures for things I know are bad, but the way you said that comes across as you haven't read a lot of manga before since there is plenty of manga's that actually explore their themes in great detail and try to have a coherent story that draws you in, makes you attached to the characters, and makes you want to hold them or head pat them or cheer them on or want them to seek their own happiness. This is none of that. It started strong with some discrempancies that could be ignored, but then drove off the rails and off a cliff and is still going.
 
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At the end of ch8 we get the set up for Sumire acting completely out of character by now stalking Kazuma and warning him Shuusuke is dangerous and could potentially harm Waku which makes no sense for her to be so non-challant about saying given her entire reason for disliking Shiika is she considered Shiika to A.) be a monster, B.) to be causing misery to others and her specifically causing misery to Waku is the trigger for Sumire to not like her and want to seperate them, and finally C.) she believes Shiika herself is a murderer (yet is seemingly okay with Kazuma who she knows is a murderer as well) and her being a murderer is why she is a monster that causes others misery (yet again none of this is attributed to Kazuma which doesn't make sense even if we consider the angle of her being jealous and this is a result of that since she would be just as jealous of Kazuma who is stealing attention from Waku even further being her own biological son that was locked away, her last direct connection to her late daughter Yuri, and is someone she focuses on even more than she focuses on Shiika which Sumire would know given she apparently has read the script and understands this is all for the sake of plot convience). So this makes three causes of continuity not adding up for the exact same scene given she is fine with Shuusuke potentially hurting Waku, she is okay with Kazuma being an actual convicted murderer, but is somehow not okay with Shiika who she considers an unconvicted murderer who got away free and is likely to harm Waku if she is allowed to be around her. None of this adds up and is completely out of nowhere for her character as established up till this point in ch9 and is only more so during ch10. Kazuma then goes home only to see Shuusuke and call him out on lying to which Shuusuke twirls his hair like one would a moustache and claims he's been doing so well at faking it yet in this same scene just four pannels prior he is seen sitting 正座 which would make him be screaming in pain if his ankle was actually hurt like he claims so even if Kazuma didn't know at this point just doing that alone would give it away.... Swear this author doesn't even try to make anything this boy does even slightly believeable... Shuusuke then gives up the act and villain monologues about how evil he sees Kazuma as only for Kazuma to not care and just say he is trying to atone for his past now. Shuusuke just gets annoyed and upgrades his villain monologue to expositing his evil dastardly plan to ruin Kazuma's life and send him back to prison (that wouldn't even work in the first place given even if he did all that and Kazuma let him, it wouldn't even have any of Kazuma's finger prints on it and as such be a dead give-a-way Kazuma didn't do it and it was falsely trying to get another person punished by the law which is illegal.
The creative writing major stuff, that's cool. Some magazines have let me release short stories in them before. If you're majoring in that, I guess they'll want you to give it a shot too! In a way it helps give perspective on what works with writing- volume 2 has indeed lost the plot a bit, and I can't say I have a good understanding of the author's mindset/mentality and what they're going for here. It does seem that this is the author's first serialization (afaict) though.

The art he draws, I see a lot of exaggerated sex that comes with hentai, and it doesn't seem like all of it is rape— but some definitely is. Also there's often a presence of blood or suggestive harm. Altogether, it makes me pretty uncomfortable. He might be going for an unhinged kind of vibe... or maybe he actually is.

About for this manga being written in a way that is defending the father, I really don't see how you came to consider the possibility that author wrote things like this because they wish to defend "their stance" on... I don't want to finish that sentence. I think the father's guilt is so established that it can't be changed no matter what, and that guilt/blame is often a shared thing.... though that in this case, the notion of Shiika having any other degree of fault than something unintentional at best would be more than enough to break any suspension of disbelief. Having characters that blame Shiika like this doesn't mean the overall narrative does, nor the author, or perhaps even the mc.

Volume 2 was a bit of a letdown to me in terms of plot, but I still enjoyed it. I don't like the hentai this author draws, but I hope he mentally segregates his works in ways we don't understand. I confess I do enjoy the unpredictability of this story, and the tension, even though we really are getting too many twists and turns, the most recent one being horribly absurd. But I've yet to see how it all ends up. Not sure what you meant about volume 1, that wasn't done by any identified group.

I do like making and consuming happy endings almost exclusively. Happy and bittersweet- a cost that doesn't make it as if the struggle never happened, but still predominantly happy, because the alternative makes it feel like they did all that for nothing. On rare occasions, I can also like pure bittersweet endings that have very little joy to them but are imbued with hope. So I thought this would be very dark but not show more of that rape, or that it would more or less move towards hope. I guess we'll see.
 
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Man, what a trainwrecks of emotions is this chapter, I knew this story would be dark, but I didn't think it would be THAT dark. And it's hard to point only one character to blame here, this is just disturbing, and I'm a reader that already checked Kimi ni Aisarete Itakatta and the Okabe Uru works. The heavy snowballing of dark feelings that the author is making is notorious, I hope that he doesn't regret in the future this decision he made in this chapter.
 

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