Shin'yuu no Furin Aite wa, Otto deshita - Vol. 3 Ch. 17

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I can’t help but now find Rio a bit sus (of course that’s probably the author’s intention). Sure Rio meant it as a joke, but did she really? Or worse… did it work for her? And did she just realize it wouldn’t for Kyouko?
 
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Rei has done nothing we've seen that comes to even 1/10th the shit kyouka just pulled.

Maybe instead of trying to find dirt on your husband, which you now have even less of a reason to distrust, who's greatest crime seems to just be being lazy/inattentive, you instead focus your efforts on getting rid of these snakes in your friend group. They are clearly more of a danger to you!
 
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Well, this makes Rio my favourite character for now. First one to actually respect a friend's marriage. :thumbsup:
Hopefully she doesn't limit that to friends...:nyoron:
 
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Friendships between men are not better. They are not stigmatized as friendships between women. Dudes bitch among them. And it's more common than what people think.

This conception that friendships between women are wicked, shallow, and ephemeral is another way to control women, to prevent them from talking to each other. Like REALLY talk to each other. The number of assholes that would be outed if some women talked to each other—the world would be a much better place.

It's really a shame that some women think like Kyouko. Aside from the talk about beauty privilege, that is true and even more so in our society, where appearance is more rewarded and promoted than knowledge, kindness, or any other quality, but it's not the subject here. Her saying that friendship between women doesn't count... yeah, no.

I get that she has really low self-esteem, and she is ashamed after what she did to Mahoro. But sororities save women's lives. Girls and women have a better chance to die at the hands of their husband, boyfriend, or another man than another woman.

I sincerely hope Kyoko will get past her internalized misogyny.
 
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Rei has done nothing we've seen that comes to even 1/10th the shit kyouka just pulled.

Maybe instead of trying to find dirt on your husband, which you now have even less of a reason to distrust, who's greatest crime seems to just be being lazy/inattentive, you instead focus your efforts on getting rid of these snakes in your friend group. They are clearly more of a danger to you!
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but why is this such a common theme in media in general. It can't really be that bad can it?
Easy drama? But not really, depends on the friend groups.

Her saying that friendship between women doesn't count... yeah, no.
Yeah, this is pure projection to justify her persuing Rei.

It's really rude of Kyouko to assume that Mahoro just did nothing to get where she is.
It's classic insecure defensiveness - this person who seems to have it so much better had to have had it handed to them. If they worked harder at it then Kyouko's mess of a life is due to personal failings rather than an unlucky draw of the hand and Kyouko doesn't want to own that.
 
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I've always thought the cliche of female frienships being toxic was hyperbole and I still do, but why is this such a common theme in media in general. It can't really be that bad can it?
I try to keep in mind Ursula K. Le Guin advice: “To learn which questions are unanswerable, and not to answer them: this skill is most needful in times of stress and darkness.”

Are female friendships toxic? I wonder. With 4.09 billion women around the world, I guess some of them will have toxic relationships, but does that translate to the whole population? I like to believe the answer is “no”.

There might be social circles where group dynamics reward such behaviour. I remember reading a paper stating that the strongest predictor for divorce was having a friend circle full of divorcees. The general idea is that if you are having trouble in your marriage and all your friends are divorced, your values will also be biased towards divorce. Does that account for strong personal belief and faith? No. It just suggests that if you immerse your mind into stories that goes in a given direction, sooner or later your mind will learn to wander in that same direction.

Now… You mentioned “media”, probably “corporate media”, which runs on two things: your attention and advertisement. Selling the story that friendships are failed (for women and men alike) opens venues for new services like private detectives, rental friends, etc.

So in this era of abundance of communication, of post-truth, and where social-media is some sort of communicational-casino (post stuff, you might go viral and get rich), it is hard to discern what is reality and is not, so… Take a deep breath and look inwards: is this questions answerable? I, myself, don't know the answer.
 
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Ah yes. The husband who rejected an affair by somebody who thought being called cute ONCE meant that he was secretly in love with her the whole time to start an affair, is actually an evil manipulator that clearly led on this poor helpless woman who couldn't help be swayed by his malicious charms to cheat.

Clearly the mark of an EVIL incarnate right there. Only way to interpret this scene indeed.
 
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Ah yes. The husband who rejected an affair by somebody who thought being called cute ONCE meant that he was secretly in love with her the whole time to start an affair, is actually an evil manipulator that clearly led on this poor helpless woman who couldn't help be swayed by his malicious charms to cheat.

Clearly the mark of an EVIL incarnate right there. Only way to interpret this scene indeed.
I kinda agree with you here. If the genders were reversed then the sape people would have called kyouko a creepy incel and Rei a #BossBabe.

This conception that friendships between women are wicked, shallow, and ephemeral is another way to control women, to prevent them from talking to each other. Like REALLY talk to each other.
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