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@Prominis
I do agree it's a story about Frieren trying to "learn to value things on the same temporal scale that the everyday human does", but action seems to play an important role in how it happens - be it on simply learning/teaching magic, how characters reafirm themselves (the whole 'coward'/deplorable journey part, past and present), and how the past is 'confronted' (surpassed or in a new way, as we'll see with this new arc). That said, 'good vs evil' seems very relevant plot wise to who will read this story (what the 10 years were about, plus what we'll be seeing from now on). 'Overpowered' and 'no hard work' may seem harsh, but that's mostly what I think about the mentor act by Freiren... the story itself may not be a 'cheesy action flick', but the 'characters' main internal conflicts' require action to be relevant... Stark to follow his master wishes (as a warrior), Fern who could simply live, but chose to stay as a magician and follow Frieren(who is on her way to the demon king castle...).
Also, when I mentioned "events/dialogue" will "come out of nowhere", it was mostly about Fern's personality, not to referencing the slice of life part... but rethinking it, I'm starting to consider this story more plot oriented, with the author being plenty criterious on which events he writes about...
The characters being flat would be more like, the characters being one dimensional, very rigid on what are their motivations to follow Frieren. Each event being a retrospective does not change that, unless it actually adds something to their choices... different from what they already would've picked, or that could, at least, solidify who they are... this may change, but, so far, everything seemed too detached to me.
The demons being evil was just considered no sense to me, although it could be part of a future plot, so I didn't say it was a flaw... but considering you mentioned it, you could take it as an example of one dimensional or 'event taken out of nowhere': something that exists by itself, without considerations to whatever should matter for it to exist... chapter 14 was open enough for me to expect it to be important for the plot, but it is not the "demons are evil/enemies to humans" part that was the problem...
I do agree it's a story about Frieren trying to "learn to value things on the same temporal scale that the everyday human does", but action seems to play an important role in how it happens - be it on simply learning/teaching magic, how characters reafirm themselves (the whole 'coward'/deplorable journey part, past and present), and how the past is 'confronted' (surpassed or in a new way, as we'll see with this new arc). That said, 'good vs evil' seems very relevant plot wise to who will read this story (what the 10 years were about, plus what we'll be seeing from now on). 'Overpowered' and 'no hard work' may seem harsh, but that's mostly what I think about the mentor act by Freiren... the story itself may not be a 'cheesy action flick', but the 'characters' main internal conflicts' require action to be relevant... Stark to follow his master wishes (as a warrior), Fern who could simply live, but chose to stay as a magician and follow Frieren(who is on her way to the demon king castle...).
Also, when I mentioned "events/dialogue" will "come out of nowhere", it was mostly about Fern's personality, not to referencing the slice of life part... but rethinking it, I'm starting to consider this story more plot oriented, with the author being plenty criterious on which events he writes about...
The characters being flat would be more like, the characters being one dimensional, very rigid on what are their motivations to follow Frieren. Each event being a retrospective does not change that, unless it actually adds something to their choices... different from what they already would've picked, or that could, at least, solidify who they are... this may change, but, so far, everything seemed too detached to me.
The demons being evil was just considered no sense to me, although it could be part of a future plot, so I didn't say it was a flaw... but considering you mentioned it, you could take it as an example of one dimensional or 'event taken out of nowhere': something that exists by itself, without considerations to whatever should matter for it to exist... chapter 14 was open enough for me to expect it to be important for the plot, but it is not the "demons are evil/enemies to humans" part that was the problem...
