The Politics Megathread

[2SpiritCherokeePrincess]

After the right-wing media provoked violence & treason, they are starting to feel the consequences. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...sinformation/ar-BB1ds5oi?ocid=notificationsvc
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/j...-defamation-lawsuit/ar-BB1dsogy?ocid=msedgntp
And sometimes eating their own. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...t-on-election-night/ar-BB1drW7o?ocid=msedgntp

 

[readingsit]

how many countless riots happened throughout 2020? how many where cheered on by the democrats and companies? how many millions of dollars were lost because of the fires, thefts, vandalism? how many lives were lost to BLM and antifa? at least 2 million in damages and 25 dead from a quick search

buT GUYS THE cApITal riOt. condemed by everyone, supported by none. level of destruction? 2 sets of windows, a door, an office with scattered papers, random dents/cracks/scuffmarks and a stolen podium and laptop. deaths? a police officer who died of currently unknown causes: https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html (paragraph 8 is the important part) and a woman who was part of the riot was shot.

i will not be gas-lit. comparing the difference between political riots is overwhelmingly one-sided

 

[M0NST3R]

@blackyawgdom I think you need to be specific about renouncing citizenship, because the process usually just has a final large fee once you get through the process.

 

[wowfucktron]

@m0nst3r
You do. Most people don’t bother with it due to American/X citizenships being common among immigrants and those with large amounts of family overseas.

I’ve revoked my citizenship once before, the process was an enormous hassle.

Getting back your citizenship is another story...

 

[Roxorium]

@readingsit The difference in support between the two is the reasoning behind them, if that wasn't obvious enough

One happened because people of color had enough of being killed for sport, and the other because seditious lunatics gathered into a large group and tried to overturn democratic elections

 

[wowfucktron]

@roxorium

One happened because people of color had enough of being killed for sport

Look at this unapologetic straw manning and hyper sensationalism.

You are doing nothing but doomsaying to overdramatize an issue that is completely blown out of proportion by the American media.

People of all skin colors get shot by the cops in the US all the time for a multitude of different reasons (mainly their own fault for acting like an idiot in front of authority), and yet we only ever hear about it whenever a black person is shot.

Why is this?

It creates controversy for a good news story because Americans will believe any and all propaganda put in front of them so long as it creates a false sense of oppression or relies on emotional manipulation via underdog projection.

It breeds outrage culture and suffering contests/oppression olympics. You’ve noticed it, right? Everyone wants to be oppressed because weakness is now rewarded as strength is actively punished.

You aren’t helping your cause, you’re only making anyone with half a brain develop mild to moderate antipathy towards black people due to painting them as nothing more than helpless children who will cry wolf whenever they see a cop or encounter any inconvenience.

Racial profiling does unfortunately work. Is it a problem? Only if you’re an idiot who doesn’t understand that life is full of inconveniences and some people face more than others due to factors outside of everyone’s control.

The damages caused by each “protest” are so wildly different.

BLM inflamed riots caused over 3/4 of a billion dollars worth of damages across many cities. It also hurt the communities they claimed to advocate for and many of its leaders openly demanded their followers target affluent areas for no reason other than racial hatred of people they’ve never even met. Projection at its finest.

The Trump nut riots broke some office furniture and some windows, caused politicians to feel unsafe for about 25 minutes and revealed the hypocrisy of the anti-cop crowd.

People of color

What exactly defines a “person of color?”
Looking it up, it seems to be anyone who isn’t Asian or Caucasian.

Oh, I get it now! Anyone who is too successful to “suffer.”

Stop with this faux-unity nonsense. All of you hate each other as much as you claim to hate white people.

seditious lunatics gathered into a large group and tried to overturn democratic elections

Seditious? No. They were doing something that most people need to do: to tell politicians to go fuck themselves and remind them that THEY work for their constituents and not big business.

I’ll cede on the lunatics part, but the election and its procedures were...off.

The amount of fervor the Democrats had combined with the amount of lengths they went to prevent Republicans and Trumpers from organizing, communicating and even hearing them out/humoring requests was at a level bordering on “deep state.”

Deep state meaning collusion to completely undermine and ostracize/disenfranchise an entire side of the political wing. That’s not democratic, that’s the complete opposite of democratic.

And yes, Trump was incompetent but all you did was instate the Democrat’s version of Old Incompetent Creepy Racist Pedophile.

 

[Mr_Detective]

Why BLM fell flat in Japan?

how many millions of dollars were lost because of the fires, thefts, vandalism? how many lives were lost to BLM and antifa? at least 2 million in damages and 25 dead from a quick search

Japanese: Bruh. We don't reward people for setting things on fire.

One happened because people of color had enough of being killed for sport, and the other because seditious lunatics gathered into a large group and tried to overturn democratic elections

"People of color" kill other "people of color" the most, not the police. Hello Chicago and Compton.
Bunch of lunatics rioted after Clinton lost. "I can do it, but you can't" kind of thing.

 

[readingsit]

@wowfucktron
preach
but to add to what you said ill also include some links for some proof-
amount of people shot to death by the police by race 2017 to 2021:

Spoiler

https://www.statista.com/statistics...n,and in 2019 this figure increased to 1,004.

a post i found(since news sites will just get somone going 'biased so no') breaking down the unarmed black deaths of 2019:

Spoiler

https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/fo...of-unarmed-black-shot-by-cops-in-2019:2837508

"Looking it up, it seems to be anyone who isn’t Asian or Caucasian." you forgot jews but recently ive been seeing storys about hispanics having "internalized racism" because of how they voted 2020

 

[wowfucktron]

@readingsit

you forgot jews

Don't remind me.
All of the hate crimes last December during Hanukkah against Jews were perpetrated by blacks.
Usual garbage was invoked as reasoning and most walked away scott free because most Jews subscribe to white guilt nonsense.

stories about hispanics having "internalized racism" because of how they voted in 2020

I honestly feel like the "civilisation without X" pol/8kun memes are becoming a reality...
"Of all the words..."

Its funny watching a group of people who demand (keyword: demand) sympathy, lash out at everyone because they feel socially justified in screaming at/harassing everyone over perceived slights and injustices.
Its depressing knowing they'll keep getting their way because of infantilization.

edit: I'm going to even further than Goku could dream of.
This country is going to fall into the relative Stone Age as the rest of the world passes us by because multiculturalism and its breadbasket of issues keeps crippling the US and other western countries.
(Un)Fortunately we can't fix this.

Spoiler

Look at this smuggie/strawman hybrid

Racially homogenous countries don't have these problems.
>:angrysoyface: nooooooo thats racist and xenophobic
Happens in Israel too.
Jews, Muslims and Christians are constantly one IED/stray Palestinian missile away from the Israelis going Fuhrer mode.
>:angrysoyface: nooooo thats just my boogeyman abrahamic religions, its all you light skinned peoples fault
Africans are constantly genociding each other. 'member Rwanda? That stuff happens in Africa 24/7.
>:reasonstolivepepe: then what do you do 1+1+1=7myass?
Go clown mode (play your fiddle and laugh) and realize its all out of your hands because you would need to be Eren Yaeger to "fix" this stuff.

Spoiler

brb, going to go see if groping the Queen of England will allow me to enact the Rumbling.

 

[M0NST3R]

In the same vein of police brutality, it has dramatically improved over time when you compare where we were about 20 years ago.
Obviously its still not perfect, but now it is significantly more likely to have police brutality be a rarity.

 

[bigtiddyoneesan]

You fuckers broke my based radar.

 

[2SpiritCherokeePrincess]

Those who claim Black Lives Matter is ignored outside the US probably hope no one will actually look it up. https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/06/12/black-lives-matter-africa
https://www.eonline.com/news/115778...n-solidarity-with-black-lives-matter-movement
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...n-black-lives-matter-worldwide-a-common-cause
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-lives-matter-protests-international_n_5edc555dc5b6b204a6a2fcf3

If some of the males here are struggling to understand the concept of mansplaining, maybe a simple chart can help.

 

[Teddy]

Why did that immediately make me imagine :

An ignorant guy explaining womansplaning as: ignorant women who try to explain mansplaining to disinterested men because some man mansplained/the woman believed them to have mansplained yet forgetting that the man didn't ask for mansplaining to be explained to them.

The sexistplainception. Coming to a meme near you. As they say nothing is new under the sun

Brought to you by metasplaining

 

[immortalartisan]

Honestly I’m gonna say it now humanity can not fucking govern itself. Honestly I’d welcome ai because at least they would be fucking honest about their intentions.

 

[M0NST3R]

I would just like to say that society really started going downhill when we outlawed dueling.
We should bring it back. Sometimes you just need to beat a motherfucker.

 

[wowfucktron]

Mansplaining is a tactic women pullout whenever they start to lose an argument or if they want to shut a man up for being factually correct. Why have an argument when you can just play victim and hope feminized men will come out of the woodwork and “YASQWEEN” the other man into the ground?

Notice how 2spirit is being cornered and her agenda posting is being torn apart? She’s assuming everyone posting here is a man (real sexist hours) and is trying her damndest to shut everyone up.

Unchecked and out of control positivity movements have caused half of the population to develop a “I can do no wrong” mentality.

You could even attach the buzzword ‘toxic’ to it.

edit: Let me expand on this further.

Women want men to assume that women know everything.

Women then get mad that men get mad when men realize women don’t actually know everything and sometimes aren’t pulling their weight when working.

So men start treating everyone the way you should, assume everyone knows nothing.

But then women get mad at actual equality, treating everyone exactly the same.

>inb4 but “muh men” are more verbose around women
Men communicate differently with each other because we understand each other. This isn’t “toxic masculinity,” it’s men knowing how men function.

No one who follows equality movements wants equality. They want their own brand of supremacy, except enforced by the government and built off of pseudoscientific nonsense like “patriarchy” and “white supremacy.”

Also any man who claims to be a feminist or an “ally” is a sexual predator. All of the men who attend those events are scouting out unstable women to victimize. There are many such cases.

tl:dr The children’s book “If You Give a Mouse a Cookie” by Laura Numeroff politically radicalized me, and made me a sleeper cell terrorist when I was only a wee child.

 

[shadowchu]

just saw this thread and i gotta say it’s pretty based

 

[readingsit]

just the other day i met with some friends at the end of our meeting when we were just blabbing about random topics we were constantly talking over each other about things we didnt have 'relevant experience' about. how many of that group was female? thats a question ill leave to your imagination but i can assure you if some loony feminazi replaced one of those friends then every other sentence would have her screaming "Stop mANSpLAiniNG TO mE" at somone.

'mansplaining' and 'womansplaining' is somtimes just a result of two people having a pleasant conversation. and with that being the case the two words stop having a purpose to exist so taking them seriously just makes you look stupid.

and another point "relevant experience" is subjective. an idiot that went to college for lesbian dance theory holds alot of importance in the circles of loons that reee at men sitting on buses with their legs open but i consider them as having less relevancy then a parrot on all subjects. im not going to listen to a karen explain womans biology to me when she doesnt know which section of her own body contains the kidney even if her 'relevant experience' of being a woman for 30 years tries to say i should listen to her

 

[Tamerlane]

Mansplaining is just an excuse to dismiss an argument without actually accepting it on the basis of sex and the person saying, rather than the merits of the point itself.

Meaning, it's just making yourself intentionally ignorant by not heeding their advice because you view their advice as coming from some sense of self-aggrandizement, and not genuine concern or wanting to help someone out.

Also, by your flowchart, any male teacher that teaches female students would be "probably mansplaining." Interesting.
@2SpiritCherokeePrincess


@wowfucktron

I think one the best pieces of wisedom I ever heard from the Tao Te Ching, specifically this passage:

When a country obtains great power,
it becomes like the sea:
all streams run downward into it.
The more powerful it grows,
the greater the need for humility.
Humility means trusting the Tao,
thus never needing to be defensive.

A great nation is like a great man:
When he makes a mistake, he realizes it.
Having realized it, he admits it.
Having admitted it, he corrects it.
He considers those who point out his faults
as his most benevolent teachers.
He thinks of his enemy
as the shadow that he himself casts.

If a nation is centered in the Tao,
if it nourishes its own people
and doesn't meddle in the affairs of others,
it will be a light to all nations in the world.

As someone who has drawn a lot from Eastern Philosophies and ideas, specifically Buddhism and Taoism, I find things like pride and the constant self-congratulatory nature of a lot of modern society and social media really, really destructive. People are too swayed and influenced by their desire to be constantly affirmed and validated, regardless of if that validation is genuine or empty, and regardless of whether or not that criticism and tough love will ultimately lead them down a better and more healthy path and mindset, rather than the constant appraisal of oneself and the disregarding of those who criticize you as "toxic" or with a thousand other buzzwords whose sole purpose to dismiss arguments without actually countering them. It is for this reason I believe hubris and closed-mindedness to be more destructive than anything else in the world.

 

[M0NST3R]

Relevant experience is just another set of words that have been abused to mean something holistically different from what it used to.
Anyone who actively puts effort into research on any topic and shows proper understanding has relevant experience.

Though relevant experience shouldn't be a reason you try to shut people out of a conversation in the first place.