The Rising of the Shield Hero - Vol. 25 Ch. 101 - Yggdrasil Elixir

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man i want to enjoy these scenes but the slave stuff and half of them looking like children is fucking gross dude, i wish the author could get off this slave kick
You complained about this last chapter, too, and I explained why your treatment of the literary device is shallow. Twice.

Making what's essentially the same complaint in the very next chapter is poor form in excelsis.
 
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dude, talking about how child marriages was a "thing" is not the slam dunk argument you think it is when someone finds a bunch of child slaves in a manga creepy
Imagine watching porn, then complaining about the sex, and finally stating that "sex being a thing in porn is not a good argument when someone finds sex gross".

I mean, you're not entirely wrong, but your argument isn't making you look nearly half as wise as you think it is.
 
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I think a lot of you all are failing to get the point of why he makes them into slaves. Here is a list.
1. Trust. Magical forced obedience means he can trust them not to betray him, to lie to him or hurt him. He is still hung up about that. After this long.
2. His shield has skills and abilities that makes those registered as his slaves become stronger than they would on their own.

I get the moral hang up on the slave thing, but that is a long standing plot device that will be around for a while.

So let's talk about how he gets annoyed with women trying to flirt with him, or get in his pants.

Again, chop this up to the Witch. Yeah, he's still hung up about that. Could even say it traumatized him. I wonder when he'll finally heal and get over that wall he put up... 🤔

None of this is spoilers btw. Quite a bit of it is all plot threads that started with the very first volume.
 
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help get them back to their country??? get them out of slavery? Not use them as a child work force that you disguises as uwu wholesome because you gave them some soup and bread?
three seperate families decided to gamble their daughters lifes based on the fact that they know that sheild apperently loves slaves, not knowing if their children would get bought by their cult figure or again, if some creep with enough cash waltzed in.
For all but about three of them... this is the only home they have ever known.
By not being in slavery you mean no slave crest yes? I do agree that would be best...
As for the working... that is to maintain their own livelihood. He isn't using them to become rich... just to support themselves. "He who does not work does not eat." Old saying holds true here. If they didn't work they would starve as he literally can't buy enough food for them.
Also child labor laws were only feasible during and after the industrial revaluation after people had invented better farming techniques, thus freeing the majority of the populous up to not subsistence farm. Again this was never enforced on the frontier.
You fail to realize how little many nobles cared for their kin. Also fairly standard for marriage contracts, never knowing how it will turn out. Little regard for daughters safety (Although many of them were trained to be quite shrewd manipulators and negotiators allowing one such Lady to out maneuver a king)
 
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I wish it were “follower”, or even “servant”. “Slave” has got a real lack of human rights stench to the word y’know? :/
An ancient custom once practiced in a time when people had no concept of equal rights, When a man became your slave and he had served you seven years he was to be set free. However should the man decide that he would remain your slave you were to drive a nail through his ear. He would then serve another seven years before being given the choice a second time. Should he again decide that he wishes to remain your slave you were to drive a nail through his other ear and he was to remain your slave until you or he died.

Tldr: Some places gave time limits on how long one could remain a slave. With the choice given to the slave to serve longer if he wished.
 
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I wish it were “follower”, or even “servant”. “Slave” has got a real lack of human rights stench to the word y’know? :/
Please scroll up and read my comment about why the slavery mechanic is necessary. And we do know Naofumi by now right? As a person?

Besides that he is forcibly trying to shape them up so they can have a world to live in, those kids are more free than they were when the were free. Yes, he is messed up. We know WHY right?

We do remember the country they live in hated demi-humans and the shield hero. Right?

In this story's setting, they have been saved. And he wants them to repay him by helping have a world and home for them to live in.
 
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Well... it's going to take quite a while for the manga to catch up with the anime, at least we get a lot more details from here.

Thanks for the translation. ✌️
 
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Please scroll up and read my comment about why the slavery mechanic is necessary. And we do know Naofumi by now right? As a person?

Besides that he is forcibly trying to shape them up so they can have a world to live in, those kids are more free than they were when the were free. Yes, he is messed up. We know WHY right?

We do remember the country they live in hated demi-humans and the shield hero. Right?

In this story's setting, they have been saved. And he wants them to repay him by helping have a world and home for them to live in.
Also, the slave crest functions as a deterrent since it can only be erased by high raking officials, so if any child gets kidnapped he can narrow the potential buyers.
And... as shown when raphtalia was skill in her kid form, if there's some kind of emergency and they need to run away but get frozen by fear he can make them flee with the crests power.
 
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:shamihuh: I hope those 3 from earlier gets sold to some creep. Also
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man i want to enjoy these scenes but the slave stuff and half of them looking like children is fucking gross dude, i wish the author could get off this slave kick
If you really think about it, it's the best way to protect them. In the context of this manga specifically. And he flat out rejects "sex slaves" which in my book is a plus.
 
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help get them back to their country??? get them out of slavery? Not use them as a child work force that you disguises as uwu wholesome because you gave them some soup and bread? or do i need to just pretend that its totally cool that the hero is just giving a metric shit tonne of money to feed into this slave system thats going to snatch and traffick more children so that mr. slave seller can sell the those displaced kids to the fucking insane perverts that we know are prevalent throughout the kingdom?

no matter how you approach the system, a legal market of slavery is fucking insane to have to interact with as a plot point or to even use as a gag, three seperate families decided to gamble their daughters lifes based on the fact that they know that sheild apperently loves slaves, not knowing if their children would get bought by their cult figure or again, if some creep with enough cash waltzed in.

"oh but shield hero told the slaver to send them home" why would we ever fucking trust this guy? he sells and trafficks children, he has no legal obligation to do shit except take in all the money the mc decides to dole out for the next batch of child slaves the manga wants to pretend hes saveing.

the slave stuff could have just been raph and filo and it would have been fine, a low point in the heros life that turned into a good thing, the orphans could have been from demi human settlements ABOUT to be sold into slavery and it would have worked JUST as well.

the slave stuff is fucking creepy.
They are literally in their fricking country? Aren't most of these children from Lurolona Village, which they are currently sitting on, eating on, sleeing on and shitting on rn? Should Naofumi just leave then? Leaving them and Nardeena defending the village alone??
 
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help get them back to their country??? get them out of slavery? Not use them as a child work force that you disguises as uwu wholesome because you gave them some soup and bread? or do i need to just pretend that its totally cool that the hero is just giving a metric shit tonne of money to feed into this slave system thats going to snatch and traffick more children so that mr. slave seller can sell the those displaced kids to the fucking insane perverts that we know are prevalent throughout the kingdom?

no matter how you approach the system, a legal market of slavery is fucking insane to have to interact with as a plot point or to even use as a gag, three seperate families decided to gamble their daughters lifes based on the fact that they know that sheild apperently loves slaves, not knowing if their children would get bought by their cult figure or again, if some creep with enough cash waltzed in.

"oh but shield hero told the slaver to send them home" why would we ever fucking trust this guy? he sells and trafficks children, he has no legal obligation to do shit except take in all the money the mc decides to dole out for the next batch of child slaves the manga wants to pretend hes saveing.

the slave stuff could have just been raph and filo and it would have been fine, a low point in the heros life that turned into a good thing, the orphans could have been from demi human settlements ABOUT to be sold into slavery and it would have worked JUST as well.

the slave stuff is fucking creepy.
On the girls family risking them, this was a deal they made with the trader. It's similar to the arguments about legalizing prostitution or drugs. Since this is a legally acknowledge trade, law enforcement can still be applied which also means that if the trader just abducts the girls or doesn't follow through with the contract, the families can send the police after him.

As for what Naofumi's doing with them, this is the follow-up to his arguments against the spear at the beginning. Also, though the author probably wasn't thinking about it, also serves as a criticism of the US's abolishment of chattel slavery while keeping penal slavery. That is, freeing someone requires more than simply saying they are on a document. The whole process at the village is that they, as mostly the displaced former residents of the territory, receive basic combat training and then get to choose their future profession where they get education/training for it.

To be honest about the US's abolishment of chattel slavery, it wasn't intended to be as half-assed as it was. Even at the time, they knew there needed to be support to KEEP them free afterwards. It's just that there used to be this idea that you should mix the president and vice president of different parties and, given the civil war, multiple parties joined into the National Union party. Though they both wanted to maintain the union, Lincoln and his vice president were from opposing parties and when Lincoln was assassinated, he had little interest in following through with his promises to the former slaves. That's why the slave owners got reparations but not the slaves.

Anyway, the point of this territory building sort of part where he's gathering all these slaves is about how he's starting to think about what happens to Raphtalia and the others after he's gone, the fighting is over, and everyone is free. You said it could have just been a low point, but it would be pointless to leave it as just a low point and not say anything. This isn't like how it usually goes in isekai were it's just a way of giving a weak-willed and timid teen an assortment of women who can't refuse that matches a variety of types for maximum coverage of reader appeal. Instead, it deals a bit with what has to be done so that someone can pick themselves after being enslaved. Could it be better, yes, it could do without the game system reasons to keep the slave marks on when they have no story relevance outside of that and the notion that it labels them as belonging to the Archduke of Melomark to potential attackers. However, there IS a way to approach it that is worth saying.
 

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