Vinland Saga - Ch. 203 - Thousand Year Voyage Part 12

[endless]

Man

 

[talas]

When the first explorers from Europe traveled the Amazon it was said the riverside was full of Mayan settlements, as far and as deep as eye could see. When other explorers came after a long while, they didn't find anything, just jungle overgrown everything...

Man, I know education is different in other countries, but the Mayan civilization was located in Central America, around 3,000 km away from the Amazon River.

 

[gundulgondrong]

What's updog?

❔ good

 

[xyzzy]

Wait, the chapter preview says that next chapter goes back to Arnheid’s village. Do they mean the village she lived before being a slave, or Ketil’s farm?

 

[Theozilla]

Wait, the chapter preview says that next chapter goes back to Arnheid’s village. Do they mean the village she lived before being a slave, or Ketil’s farm?

It means Thorfinn's Vinland village, they named the settlement after her, remember?

 

[noblesslayer]

https://imgur.com/a/j49rZDF

Waaaaaaa, Gudrid.

 

[Grimmycoffee]

Bitch knows about the plague and decide to say fucking nothing. Great. Just, fucking great. The wisdom of a sage that saw the future, ladies and gentlemen!

I still don't get it...

These natives can get high and see into the future, and one of them can even see the Industrial Revolution and its consequences, but Valhalla absolutely is not real and death is oblivion?

Weren't we also shown real Valhalla, but as something hellish back then? It was Thorfinn's dream, but still, the "afterlife" I remember being shown all need a quotation mark.

 

[TwisterJR]

Someone who knows, what disease is that, mfs have dark spots in their fingers and that

 

[sssr]

Someone who knows, what disease is that, mfs have dark spots in their fingers and that

Literally the Black Death (bubonic plague). While the 14th century event is the best-known, the first clear record of the plague was actually from China in the 600s, so the plague has been around for a long time. It was endemic in the territories of the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire because it was one of the causes of the Plague of Justinian. Probably someone from Thorfinn's merchant crew brought it with them from Constantinople.

 

[sssr]

When the first explorers from Europe traveled the Amazon it was said the riverside was full of Mayan settlements, as far and as deep as eye could see. When other explorers came after a long while, they didn't find anything, just jungle overgrown everything...

As someone else already explained, the Mayans didn't live in the Amazon. Also this account is confusing another expedition. The Amazon rainforest didn't have large settlements when the Europeans came. It did have some cities with complex civilization, but those were already gone a hundred years before Columbus came.

The account you're describing seems to be based on the Virginia Map and the Mississippi expedition that recorded the last gasp of the Mississippian culture and their mound settlements. The Virginia Map was made by John Smith (of Pocahontas fame) and records the settlements (cities) under the control of "King" Powhatan and his confederation, as well as some settlements known to the colonists from their allies. It depicts the situation of the land when the Europeans first arrived. The Mississippi expedition was a trip upstream of the river where colonists discovered the large cities of the Mississippian culture, tragically only a few years before they were all wiped out by disease. This is the basis of the Mound Builder Myth that inspired Native American Israelism in the 19th century.

 

[al_pacino]

Man, I know education is different in other countries, but the Mayan civilization was located in Central America, around 3,000 km away from the Amazon River.

agreed. not to mention that Mayans is already gone by the time of the Aztec (somewhere around 1300-1400). which is waaaay before Columbus or even Cortez.

 

[alaudae]

Vinland saga's story finally reach "vinland" now? after 200 chapters hehehe

 

[Dpmt]

agreed. not to mention that Mayans is already gone by the time of the Aztec (somewhere around 1300-1400). which is waaaay before Columbus or even Cortez.

The Mayans were definitely in their postclassical era by the time the Aztec Empire was flourishing, but I wouldn’t call them “gone” when there are still millions of Maya people living in the area even in the present.

Cortez literally sent an expedition in 1524 to conquer them led by Pedro de Alvarado, but they resisted for a long time with the last city only falling in 1697.

 

[CT-9904]

Thanks for the chapter, thanks for the punch

 

[CT-9904]

the first ligma ever recorded

Who the hell is Thorfinn

 

[poemofdevil]

Thank you Vargar for punching that dumb ass.

 

[al_pacino]

The Mayans were definitely in their postclassical era by the time the Aztec Empire was flourishing, but I wouldn’t call them “gone” when there are still millions of Maya people living in the area even in the present.

Cortez literally sent an expedition in 1524 to conquer them led by Pedro de Alvarado, but they resisted for a long time with the last city only falling in 1697.

well... I'm the type that consider the people were gone the moment their civilization isn't around. I take no account of what language they're using. so even if people there using Maya language, I don't consider such scattered tribes to be Mayan. thus, there's no Mayans by 1524.

but that's just a difference in perspective between you and me. what's clear to both of us is, there's no great Mayans cities for Conquistador to conquer by 1500.

 

[Rillant]

Regarding the TL notes, I found "winpnet" which means "having a venereal disease," in which case I imagine it's a mistranslation on the part of the author.

I think that might be it! Thank you.

 

[beperov]

When the first explorers from Europe traveled the Amazon it was said the riverside was full of Mayan settlements, as far and as deep as eye could see. When other explorers came after a long while, they didn't find anything, just jungle overgrown everything...

is this a reference to something? the mayans didn't live in the amazon

 

[Swagner]

is this a reference to something? the mayans didn't live in the amazon

Just the whitewashing of history and the sorry state of education regarding pre-columbian civilizations.