Welcome Back, Alice - Vol. 7 Ch. 40.5 - Afterword

[ariel_haymarket]

Shit, his next work is going to be like Silence of the Lambs at this rate

g-d I hope not

 

[DooMWhitex]

Author talking about LGBT has been addicted to porn since childhood? Who would have thought...

 

[HoangDinh]

this author really got many hit and miss

 

[ricecrops]

i think this afterword made me realize theres some mangas i cant approach just with rationale simply due to the fact theyre extremely personal and i dont relate with them. in a sense maybe im blessed to not have any complexes about sex or gender in adulthood lol anywho reading those phrases he got out of the book, i tried to modify them to a cis womanly experience and they sounded so weird, but when thinking about them from a nb experience they certainly made more sense than speaking from merely cis male and cis female perspectives. regardless, queer people all experience their queerness differently, so hopefully old pal oshimi can figure it out one of these days, being born in a different generation may have something to do with the confusion since gen z in japan are waaaaaay more comfortable with all this

 

[watrmeln]

This whole manga is so incredible, I had to read it again a few months later. I even opened my account back up to reply.

Everything is just so beautiful. Reading this has changed me, without a doubt. It has molded me.

Wonderful work. If you can look past any biases, and see the true meaning of each stroke of the pen, you will come to understand.

An honest, heartfelt, 10/10 from me.

 

[vikispod]

Author gots a lot of stuff to deal with. But I think saying he should transition is like a bandaid solution to what he got going on.

i dont think thats what is he saying tho but just check out inside mari

 

[Rodnap]

While I thoroughly despise "egg" discussion and stuff, it's becoming a lot harder and harder to deny that Oshimi is probably not cis.
If he said almost an ounce of what he has written on all of these afterwords to a therapist, they might go "hey uhm, you might be dysphoric? yeah." A lot of the things that he talks about in some of these tend to be insanely loaded but also the answer seems way too easy sometimes.
I'm not gonna lie, seeing someone try to reverse engineer gender and sexuality like this feels wrong, not in the sense of "he shouldn't do that" but in the sense of seeing a car crash happen frame by frame. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up writing some sort of essay that goes nutty, like lesbian experience with loneliness(whose author also has gender brainrot kinda happening over there but still)
At the end of the day, I hope he gets the tools necessary to properly navigate his situation and that everything goes well for him.

Not cis is probably the best description I can think. Since the firsts afterwords I felt the impulse to "diagnose" non-binary.
Being a japanesse therapist, who knows if it would help that way

 

[Rodnap]

I hope nobody take this personally, but can we please stop with the couch psychoanalysis? "The author didn't consider this", or "this is the solution to all his problems" are simply the worst form of entitlement. Please, keep in mind that your own experiences or your view of the world do not include, explain or "solve" all of the human and societal conundrums and forms - especially when approaching what is patently a very personal story or narration.

Dude, people are reacting to a public work, not leaving notes in the author´s door XD

 

[biscard-one]

Dude, people are reacting to a public work, not leaving notes in the author´s door XD

"Reacting to a work" is not the same as "Profiling the author, and his perceived psychological issues". One is an opinion, the other is an attempt to force your notions and views of the world on someone else. Someone you don't know, in a context that most likely doesn't fit.
If you haven't a degree in psychological sciences, and you haven't had a session with the author, you should suspend your judgment, or at the very least keep your thoughts to yourself.

 

[Rodnap]

"Reacting to a work" is not the same as "Profiling the author, and his perceived psychological issues". One is an opinion, the other is an attempt to force your notions and views of the world on someone else. Someone you don't know, in a context that most likely doesn't fit.
If you haven't a degree in psychological sciences, and you haven't had a session with the author, you should suspend your judgment, or at the very least keep your thoughts to yourself.

How cant you understand that for all intents and purposes we are talking about the fictional version of the author, the one he created for the afterwords, just one more character from their works, he isn't real because we aren't interacting with the real one. We are extracting themes from those afterwords because they are part of the work and help give them more context. Nobody is saying that in the real world is going to tell to the author's face "you are clearly X and you should do Y". This isn't even a direct line of communication with the author, which could maybe give you a leg to stand, this isn't their personal account or his e-mail, just a forum.

 

[biscard-one]

How cant you understand that for all intents and purposes we are talking about the fictional version of the author, the one he created for the afterwords, just one more character from their works, he isn't real because we aren't interacting with the real one. We are extracting themes from those afterwords because they are part of the work and help give them more context. Nobody is saying that in the real world is going to tell to the author's face "you are clearly X and you should do Y". This isn't even a direct line of communication with the author, which could maybe give you a leg to stand, this isn't their personal account or his e-mail, just a forum.

Let me quote some of the comments, the shortest ones for brevity's sake:

"God, I hope Oshimi learns that transitioning is a thing someday"
"The man will write and draw mindfuck crossdressing manga instead of going to therapy"
"Oshimi will consider every answer to his issues in the cosmos that isnt being trans lmao"
"Oshimi-sensei probably needs to seek professional counseling to work through those feelings, or at least talk about them."
"[omitted] he's eggy as fuck and living in a society where it's a lot more terrifying to approach transition and a lot fewer online spaces to explore those feelings."
"Why did he not even once mention “transgender“? Thats‘s clearly what he is. Why is he saying all that pseudo-profound bullshit instead of actually naming the core issue?"
"This could be mental illness caused by porn addiction. Not saying all trans are like this, but it seems to be the case with this guy."
"Shit, his next work is going to be like Silence of the Lambs at this rate"
"Author talking about LGBT has been addicted to porn since childhood? Who would have thought..."

If you think these comments are directed to a fictional version of the author, I think you're bending reality for your own comfort.
Oh, and trying to psychoanalyze authors based on their works is absolutely a thing - just look at the speculation about Ryoko Kui and autism.

 

[Rodnap]

Let me quote some of the comments, the shortest ones for brevity's sake:

"God, I hope Oshimi learns that transitioning is a thing someday"
"The man will write and draw mindfuck crossdressing manga instead of going to therapy"
"Oshimi will consider every answer to his issues in the cosmos that isnt being trans lmao"
"Oshimi-sensei probably needs to seek professional counseling to work through those feelings, or at least talk about them."
"[omitted] he's eggy as fuck and living in a society where it's a lot more terrifying to approach transition and a lot fewer online spaces to explore those feelings."
"Why did he not even once mention “transgender“? Thats‘s clearly what he is. Why is he saying all that pseudo-profound bullshit instead of actually naming the core issue?"
"This could be mental illness caused by porn addiction. Not saying all trans are like this, but it seems to be the case with this guy."
"Shit, his next work is going to be like Silence of the Lambs at this rate"
"Author talking about LGBT has been addicted to porn since childhood? Who would have thought..."

If you think these comments are directed to a fictional version of the author, I think you're bending reality for your own comfort.
Oh, and trying to psychoanalyze authors based on their works is absolutely a thing - just look at the speculation about Ryoko Kui and autism.

If you think they are talking to the real author you are overestimating the power of a random manga forum beyond anything sensible. And even if they are as delusional as you and thing somehow that this is a direct line to the author, they being wrong doesnt make you right, both would be wrong.
But yes, I think if they (and you) stop enough to think, would understand that the "author" character in the page isnt the equivalent to the person in real life in the same way that I am not my instagram page or my tiktoks. Everything is filtered, you can't treat an afterword like a psychiatric confession. Or talking about that afterword in a forum about talking about that afterword like a direct attack to the real person. I would not defended in the author accounts, writing him personal latters without any tact etc but this isnt that.