Yondome wa Iya na Shizokusei Majutsushi - Ch. 51 - First Errand

[Astra_Starwalker]

Yay, had to be a douchebag that dies and gets sent after our MC first, ey?...

 

[Karretch]

If only the pacing and transitions between timelines and perspectives are smoother and more obvious, then this would be a lot more readable.

Anyway, thanks for translating!


Translator error. Basically, it's the manga trope where no japanese gender pronouns are used to make the "gender confusion" event.
First panel where "he" is used: Kasim said "この子” in the raws which just means "this child".
2nd: Fester basically treated Van like a living, white object you can touch.
3rd: Rina also said "この子"

This could have used another quality assurance pass to add to the confusion by earlier referring to him with wrong pronouns or doing the complicated word-play to assure nothing was said either way. Just feels like a shame the joke was ruined by not playing into it.

I know some are going to reply "it's not that big a deal, don't harp the translators" which I'm not, but to some people it is a big deal. It's excusable, but it interrupts the flow of reading.

 

[Lolitsnugget]

As a WN reader, I think manga adaptation is progressing at a nice brisk pace. It's just that the original story is quite lengthy and epic in scope.

The other Hiroto is exactly what he seems to be - a hero type who organized the rest of the reincarnators into a superhero team.


The reincarnated assassins are going to be our MC's ongoing concern for quite a while. Because what is a life as a Dark Lord without heroes trying to take you out?


Yes, that's certainly a valid way to read this story.

Ya, its like a couple other series i had to put on standby. Im a mass read enjoyer, which goes doubly so for slow moving (in depth) series. Hope it builds up enough if i end up going that route (could forget lol)

 

[flannan]

Yay, had to be a douchebag that dies and gets sent after our MC first, ey?...

Good people don't kill their comrades' mothers without a good reason. And thus, they tend to live somewhat longer.
From a Doylist perspective, sending a bad guy first would ensure they wouldn't just join forces with the MC and make his life too easy.

 

[Astra_Starwalker]

Good people don't kill their comrades' mothers without a good reason. And thus, they tend to live somewhat longer.
From a Doylist perspective, sending a bad guy first would ensure they wouldn't just join forces with the MC and make his life too easy.

I think I should add "/sarcasm" to the end of my comment.
It's just frustrating that it was so predictable, I fully expected it to be a douchebag that would get sent after our MC first, I just held on to a sliver of hope that I would be surprised and the author would have chosen a nice guy instead.

 

[TomMalufe]

This chapter was jumping all over the place. I feel like the transitions could be better.

 

[ForrestMagus]

Even though the merchant's daughter thought otherwise, the perceptive readers had a feeling it was Onee X Shota.

I understood that reference

 

[SoulOverCaos]

suddenly changing from one world to the other was a bit sudden, but above that...

EVEN THE DAMN CLASSMATE CONFUSED AMAMIYA WITH AMEMIYA!!

 

[flannan]

Their a way to many examples though, to name a few:

So I'm a Spider, So What?​

The Saga of Tanya the Evil​

Tsukimichi: Moonlit Fantasy​

Arifureta​

Mushoku Tensei​

No Game No Life​

Reincarnated as a Dragon Hatchling​

Her Majesty's Swarm​

Serial Killer Isekai ni Oritatsu​

The World's Finest Assassin Gets Reincarnated in Another World as an Aristocrat​

And this is if your just talking about a generic dick, if you change the criteria to annoying gods, gods that inconvenience the MC or ones that demand tributes then the list would be in the 30s

It's not really that many, in my opinion. And examples where gods are less dicks than the MC, like Spider and Tanya the Evil, are not a solid argument.

Changing criteria like that is kind of unreasonable.
"Annoying" is highly subjective.
"Inconvenience the MC" is what every part of the setting does, especially in power fantasies where even the Dark Lord can only inconvenience the MC.
Gods demanding tributes (we all know it means "to taste MC's overpowered cooking") is expected behavior for polytheistic gods.

 

[daimaouanos]

In Japanese, most names are written in Kanji, and these Kanjis can have more than one way of reading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji


There are many people in Japan with different names, but that are read the same, this is the same case here.

As pointed above, Kanjis can have two pronunciations, so how exactly do you know when you should use one or the other? By asking. There is no specific rule to say to use one or the other.

This is the problem with their names, they are written in completely different ways, however, they can be read in the same way, but they were not supposed to be read the same, as we know, one is Amamiya, the other is Amemiya. This is the source of the confusion.

Amemiya and Amamiya were unrelated, they were mentioned to look similar, but that's just a convenient plot device, a Diabolus Ex Machina. They were not the same age, Amemiya was a hikkikomori who had been just kicked out of his house, and was going to visit his uncle who was supposed to get him a job, but the terrorist attack happened in the way there.

This is also information that is supposed to be in this chapter, but the manga stripped of for lack of time.

So that's all they are to each other, they are not doppelgangers nor anything, Amamiya imagined that just because he is the one getting the short end of the stick.

In the same way, the one guy who had asked not to be reincarnated (remember him? Check chapter 1 if not) is nothing relevant in the overall plot, however he is another convenient plot device, another Diabolus Ex Machina, that serves to get Narumi (and others who were helping her), who had been searching for Amamiya, to guess that maybe it was Amamiya who had refused, thus she wouldn't be able to find him in Origin, this is another reason on why they never imagined the Undead was Amamiya.

Just to be clear both names are supposed to be read as Amamiya, Yoshi, the guy translating the WN, just spelled the names differently to make a distinction for us English readers.

 

[ssj4maiko]

Just to be clear both names are supposed to be read as Amamiya, Yoshi, the guy translating the WN, just spelled the names differently to make a distinction for us English readers.

No, the furigana, and the hiragana used when Rodcorte notices his mistake, are very explicit in how the names are supposed to be read.

 

[Taqim2609]

Sooooo this god is an idiot right?

he’s sending someone obsessed with revenge to kill someone for being obsessed with revenge. I get mc is more dangerous but…wouldn’t that just mean that this new guy is destined to fail?

bad logic on the god’s part. He should’ve at least waited for a few people to die to send them all at once.


also, really loving the different reactions to Van here in the other country. They think she’s awesome for being half-vampire

The god in this world is stupid

 

[somesap]

Well, even without the reference to having the same name, the even may still happen just the same, we just won't get a one liner from Kanata, and he will seem more brutal to random people (something he totally is), rather than doing what he does for some minimal coincidence.

I was referring a much later consequence of having readers know this name and the president daughter's fate.

Spoiler: spoiler far far ahead

The betrayal of the president and the counter betrayal of Sergeï.

 

[ssj4maiko]

I was referring a much later consequence of having readers know this name and the president daughter's fate.

Spoiler: spoiler far far ahead

The betrayal of the president and the counter betrayal of Sergeï.

huh.... No? The two characters you must be thinking are the same person are not the same person.

I can't remember if Hannah was the country's president, or the president of some large corporation or something, but that was something that happened many years ago, and an electteed president is not a king, meaning he is changed after a period of time and replaced with another.

Even if they were the same person, the one who created the situation was Mari, she is the one who wanted to kill Kanata. Blaming the father of the daughter that was used by Mari is kinda a stretch.

We are also talking about an author that easily forgets some really easy stuff, such as the number of cheats Amemiya has, as can be seen in the Light Novel and Manga, numbered 8, and readers of the WN should already know the current number, which was changed when those chapters were released.

 

[VooXoo]

Yeah, this asshole thought that as that was their second life their new parents weren't actually family, kileld and sold a "comrade" mother because he could, didn't even think about it, his life was number one, everyone else was less than a NPC.
But to do something like that you have to be a idio psychopatic narcissist.

Interesting how the reincarnation god didn't say anything to him when exactly like MC he wanted revenge when he got killed.
The re-god is hellbent on killing and nerfing MC because in his eyes MC is unable to change mind and or that he deserves no peace, no luck, a lot of tragedies, getting killed and his soul destroyed, not thinking that anybody that was tortured for years and used as a lab rat would be pissed after being so close to escaping and could calm down with time or a wise discussion.

So I dislike how this new asshole repeated MC words and wasn't punished.

 

[edvoon]

While it's nice that they don't hate him just for being a dhampir, I'm really surprised that none of them stopped to think about the implications of him saying "I'm living in the forest with my mother" followed by "my mother is recently deceased". Living with dead people in this world means either insanity or necromancy, and neither one is considered a good thing by humans, far as I'm aware.

Not really, the fact that he's out and about would imply that he WAS living in the forest with his mother, and came out of the forest after she died. Yes he used present tense but a lot of people make that mistake anyway, and since these adventurers aren't exactly highly educated they won't be pedantic with his grammar.

 

[Kefrayba]

It's kinda disappointed that the artist's skill haven't improved much over time like many other mangakas...

 

[flannan]

It's kinda disappointed that the artist's skill haven't improved much over time like many other mangakas...

Skills are easy to improve when they're low. But when the artist is already good enough to draw this manga, there is not much room for improvement, and polishing one's skills takes time.

 

[Kefrayba]

Skills are easy to improve when they're low. But when the artist is already good enough to draw this manga, there is not much room for improvement, and polishing one's skills takes time.

Personally, I think this artist is mid-level. With how many frames that were left empty. Line works that went from rough to just ok after 50 chapters.

Let's say, art wise, Witch Hat Atelier, Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu, Tensei Shitara Dainana-ouji Dattanode, Kimama ni Majutsu wo Kiwamemasu, and Record of Ragnarok are 10. Even The One Within Villainess had excellent artworks to compensate for some frames that had empty background. And even so, you don't lost the sense of composition and character's whereabout.

In comparison, this manga is 5.5-6.

Some example of mangas that the art went from 5 to 10 were Dungeon Meshi and Cat's Eye.

 

[Naagaa]

Yo WN and LN reader. Where are we at. I don’t care for the stuff I missed. I want to read ahead.

You should read everything in between, in the novel (now at chapter 355) Van is currently 13 years old and has gone through a lot of development, look it up in lightnovelbastion