Mangadex to purge titles for legal reasons

[Pauan]

Neither reaction is fine (from both sides), one side for not thinking properly what (and how) to reply to questions related to an ongoing issue, and the other side also for just escalating the argument into a fight.

Nah, that's not how the Non-Aggression Principle works.

People have the right to self-defense. It is the person who initiates the fight who is wrong, the defender is always morally correct.

Your logic gives advantages to the attacker, and disadvantages the defender. This leads to more attacks being done.

If you want to stop attacks, you must give preferential treatment to the defender, so the attacker has less incentive to attack in the first place.

 

[ShujixXChise]

It's a good thing that there are several organizations in America dedicated to protecting free speech (such as the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund) which will pay for legal fees even if you cannot afford it.

Good because i for one think we should sue MD for liable slander because EtherealNeko shouldn't get away with calling people paedophiles over fiction and if it means the fall of MD then so be it!

GOD WILLS IT.

 

[Blanc]

BTW, for the follow the law thing, Discord is giving mixed signals since they said MD is in US jurisdiction, but if we follow that, Lolisho is not REALISTIC depiction or depiction of REAL person.
But here we have a signal that we (as in MD staff) just follow the law, then you guys is following the UK.
If we follow UK law, then we need verification to access R18 contents (which is like 209 pages long, counting the last 4months)\

Since tomorrow is the new year for your boss, I guess answer next week then.

 

[cystericosis]

It seems like it's supposed to download the chapters? I think I'd rather note the titles one by one instead of wasting storage space.

https://bookmarklets.roler.dev/
Bookmark the script itself on your browser and click your bookmark while on the MD homepage. Google bookmarklet if you can't figure it out.

 

[thrway7234]

Mods and admins have always been largely a bunch of faggots. These normie retards didnt even know what Index oder shakugan no Shana were.

 

[Septazia]

Communication is key, the community here is not just readers but scanlators who translate,redraw and upload.

Look at the latest uploads, imagine removing everything, what do you get?

Nomicomi

Most of it is just ok and I can go there myself

Official publishers

Again, I can go there myself. They are not hard to find....when is actually available for me to read.

 

[ShujixXChise]

Mannnn i literally paused my loli hentai for all this shit when i saw Kuri Rinji video on this.

 

[Angry_Panda]

What do you think "jerk it off to little kids" means? Please explain in thorough detail.

The post in question:

Stop the misinformation. Titles being removed depict sexual activity between characters that are minors, either in appearance (handled on a case-by-case basis) or confirmed in the dialogue. It's about law and compliance with it. If you jerk it off to little kids, go and do it elsewhere; there are sites that specialise in that.

A request. Information about the material affected. A vague rationale. A statement requesting anyone who may be a pedophile to find their fap sauce elsewhere.

Is someone expressly saying 'if you object to the removal of this material, you are a pedophile'? No. A bunch of folks have read that into what's written. Perhaps it was intended, but I have no insight into that and am left to interpret the words on the page by themselves. Given the lack of pronouns in the first three sentences, and the use of the conditional preposition in the fourth, there is no reason that disagreement with the former would necessitate the assumption that one belonged to the class described in the latter.

 

[ShujixXChise]

Mods and admins have always been largely a bunch of faggots. These normie retards didnt even know what Index oder shakugan no Shana were.

One of the GREATEST anime to ever existed!, Shakugan no Shana!

And this song lives RENT FREE in my head. 😭 😭 😭

 

[Bartolumiu]

And yet, after such a blatant breach of professionalism, putting the entire MangaDex staff under fire... EtherealNeko doesn't even get a slap on the wrist? No punishment at all? No demotions? Nothing?

When a Japanese CEO messes up, they resign. This is standard practice, and should be standard practice. Being an admin on a website is far less important than a CEO, yet you are treating EtherealNeko better than a CEO.

If EtherealNeko had said something racist or transphobic that the MangaDex staff disagrees with, EtherealNeko would have been booted immediately.

So the fact that they haven't been booted proves that the MangaDex staff does in fact agree with EtherealNeko's stance.

I understand why you're looking for a public "verdict" here, but we don't handle internal staff matters or disciplinary actions out in theopen.
Just because we're not posting a public list of punishments that doesn't mean the situation is being completely ignored or that the entire team shares one person's specific phrasing (in this case for example no one does, for pretty obvious reasons).
Right now we're trying to focus on fixing the tension in teh community and making sure our internal standards are met once again, but we won't be doing public "resignations" over a heated thread.

 

[Mazaky]

I will take this as my cue to back up my reading list before it gets worse. I suggest you all do the same while we can.

Over the past two decades, I’ve been through so many sites that I eventually started keeping track of everything I read in a huge, well-organized Excel spreadsheet. Yeah, I’m old, but this bad boy has never failed me once.

 

[WhiteRaven_OfTheValley]

I'm leaving this thread for now, I've had enough of bs in this site today, it's my time to rest and let people who just woke up take the wheel

I've already taken notes of all the titles i have in my library and ready to move whenever the worst happened

I hope it won't, but from the looks, it'll happen.

 

[ShujixXChise]

I understand why you're looking for a public "verdict" here, but we don't handle internal staff matters or disciplinary actions out in theopen.
Just because we're not posting a public list of punishments that doesn't mean the situation is being completely ignored or that the entire team shares one person's specific phrasing (in this case for example no one does, for pretty obvious reasons).
Right now we're trying to focus on fixing the tension in teh community and making sure our internal standards are met once again, but we won't be doing public "resignations" over a heated thread.

Again this wasn't "just" a heated threat this was YOUR mod calling people paedophile over fictional manga character and a manga that is still unfairly removed by you guys and you refuse to own up and take some personal fucking responsibility and THAT is why we have a problem because YOU refuse to address it and give the manga that was removed back and give us a official apology thats all we ask and never do this kinda shit again because we are NOT going to let you get away with this shit.

Legal action will be applied if you do not give us what we want.

 

[Blanc]

I understand why you're looking for a public "verdict" here, but we don't handle internal staff matters or disciplinary actions out in theopen.
Just because we're not posting a public list of punishments that doesn't mean the situation is being completely ignored or that the entire team shares one person's specific phrasing (in this case for example no one does, for pretty obvious reasons).
Right now we're trying to focus on fixing the tension in teh community and making sure our internal standards are met once again, but we won't be doing public "resignations" over a heated thread.

So far, I see from the DSAT side, the simplest way is remove Neko from the mod/admin position from MD (she can keep her in Comicola), that behaviour should be a Zero tolerant policies. We all grown up here, let people take responsibility for their action.

Then again, not my company, not my team, not my problem.

 

[Bartolumiu]

Look, we all grew up here. I know it's your job to clean up for the company's face. So, let me make it straight, one of your colleague bring harm to the company's reputation, and your customer want to see some proof that action has been taken to reprimand the behaviour.
So far, we saw nothing from the prepetrator, we (as in customers) only saw peformative behaviour from her and white knighting from mod and supporters.
When did MD become a simp zone? Where are all those PR/HR trainings? The company is so cheap la, using unpaid volunteer mods i suppose?

As most of you have already been able to see, we're a team of volunteers, and not a corporate PR firm with proper HR training, but that actually doesn't mean we don't have standards (which in this case haven't been properly applied) for how we interact with the community.
That being said, as I mentioned earlier, we don't do public reprimands or post-staff disciplinary logs.
And yes, it might feels like "performative" silence from the outside, but we're currently handling the situation internally to make sure it doesn't happen again, since we're currently focusing on getting the thread back to a somewhat civil state rather than turning staff management into a public circus.

 

[kingzzoof]

I understand why you're looking for a public "verdict" here, but we don't handle internal staff matters or disciplinary actions out in theopen.
Just because we're not posting a public list of punishments that doesn't mean the situation is being completely ignored or that the entire team shares one person's specific phrasing (in this case for example no one does, for pretty obvious reasons).
Right now we're trying to focus on fixing the tension in teh community and making sure our internal standards are met once again, but we won't be doing public "resignations" over a heated thread.

Do you think everyone is an idiot? It’s clear you’re sweeping it under the rug.

 

[ShujixXChise]

As most of you have already been able to see, we're a team of volunteers, and not a corporate PR firm with proper HR training, but that actually doesn't mean we don't have standards (which in this case haven't been properly applied) for how we interact with the community.
That being said, as I mentioned earlier, we don't do public reprimands or post-staff disciplinary logs.
And yes, it might feels like "performative" silence from the outside, but we're currently handling the situation internally to make sure it doesn't happen again, since we're currently focusing on getting the thread back to a somewhat civil state rather than turning staff management into a public circus.

Clearly because you let a power tripping mod start shit with people can call them paedophiles over fiction and removed a manga you think its "problematic" no buddy we are going to make you a problem that wont go away unless you fix this shit and remove Neko from mod.

 

[yogurtman250]

As most of you have already been able to see, we're a team of volunteers, and not a corporate PR firm with proper HR training, but that actually doesn't mean we don't have standards (which in this case haven't been properly applied) for how we interact with the community.
That being said, as I mentioned earlier, we don't do public reprimands or post-staff disciplinary logs.
And yes, it might feels like "performative" silence from the outside, but we're currently handling the situation internally to make sure it doesn't happen again, since we're currently focusing on getting the thread back to a somewhat civil state rather than turning staff management into a public circus.

You know, i really wanted to know what compelled her to go rouge and say such a response (and also lock the thread)

 

[DavidianMillerian]

As most of you have already been able to see, we're a team of volunteers, and not a corporate PR firm with proper HR training, but that actually doesn't mean we don't have standards (which in this case haven't been properly applied) for how we interact with the community.
That being said, as I mentioned earlier, we don't do public reprimands or post-staff disciplinary logs.
And yes, it might feels like "performative" silence from the outside, but we're currently handling the situation internally to make sure it doesn't happen again, since we're currently focusing on getting the thread back to a somewhat civil state rather than turning staff management into a public circus.

Clearly because you let a power tripping mod start shit with people can call them paedophiles over fiction and removed a manga you think its "problematic" no buddy we are going to make you a problem that wont go away unless you fix this shit and remove Neko from mod.

bro misclicked and sent the wrong reaction lmao

 

[Blanc]

As most of you have already been able to see, we're a team of volunteers, and not a corporate PR firm with proper HR training, but that actually doesn't mean we don't have standards (which in this case haven't been properly applied) for how we interact with the community.
That being said, as I mentioned earlier, we don't do public reprimands or post-staff disciplinary logs.
And yes, it might feels like "performative" silence from the outside, but we're currently handling the situation internally to make sure it doesn't happen again, since we're currently focusing on getting the thread back to a somewhat civil state rather than turning staff management into a public circus.

I know where you come from, but face the truth. Since namicomi taking over, which is an LTD, you guys are not only a crew of volunteer or us (as in customers) should treat you like a common person. You ARE the face of MD and Namicola, I know it's hard to accept it, but as thing change since the DMCA, you guys have to adapt to how we view you guys from now on.

I think it past the days when we are just simple fans that gather and build a community, now we are customer using a service that namicomi managed.