Risou no Himo Seikatsu - Vol. 18 Ch. 74 - A Sovereign's Choice

[Udgard]

Lucrezia is 100% a LN character and is not original to the manga. The manga so far has faithfully adapted the LN (not the WN), and has not added anything original to it (but, due to the length of prose, has certainly shortened the content).

I might have misunderstood one of the artist notes at the end of the chapter, but it's great that she's a proper LN character, since that means she wouldn't be locked out of the plot.

 

[Nemo2342]

I really love seeing how sharp Aura is; it's such a nice change from series where the MC has all the answers and everyone is impressed with their middle school-level knowledge.

 

[Raydnt]

Don't know who I'd pick for MC, but that short girl (Lucrezia?) is going to be happy about the opportunity

Oh please literally ANYONE but her.

 

[Harouki]

I prefer Bona because MC has shown that he is super comfortable around her and their relationship would no doubt be super easy and peaceful.

Like those scenes where you see grandpa and grandma just sitting next to each other all happy. Prince Franseco also likened them to two herbivores just lounging on a field together

However, considering his personality, he’ll pick the one who he knows won’t be bothered by a massive jump in status or is actively seeking it. So shorty it is.

 

[PrototypicalLurker]

God let it be Bona. We already have a short blonde

 

[xaraphina]

No clue what all the emphasis on the kiln is about. A small L shaped kiln made of dirt and proper wood is good enough. The obnoxiously slow process of increasing the fire temperature is 95% of the problem.

 

[kaminomikan]

who indeed...

 

[Korvalus]

The space isolating barrier is only locked relative to the magician's imagination. Those people are still on a planet with a day-night cycle and presumably seasons. It's a different universe, so who knows, but we might assume their star system is still a part of a galaxy. So, they are moving nonetheless, very fast, through space. Unless it's an extremely different universe where the planet is totally static, the sun orbits the planet, and so forth, but that seems like a stretch. The pondering here is locking it relative to the planet's surface, but not above that level (in scale). But why is that so? Why can't he lock it relative to the ship. So, it can't be moved on the ship's deck, but it will move with the ship.

That reminds me to the Immovable Rod of D&D. Many times in the past players came to the same conclusion as you to justify using a barely 50cm-long stick as a siege weapon. The most common fix was that it was immovable but relative to the planet or the plane themselves, so the rod stays in the same point regardless of how the world or any other celestial object moves.

 

[w3searcher]

Making the emergency teleportation tool (seemingly) only work for him with all those important people on board seems a bit cruel. I suppose the thinking is that in an emergency if it works on more people he'd try to save as many as possible and could die in the process, making the whole thing meaningless

 

[Gunlord500]

Thank you for the translations TOOR.

 

[Quarterdane]

The space isolating barrier is only locked relative to the magician's imagination. Those people are still on a planet with a day-night cycle and presumably seasons. It's a different universe, so who knows, but we might assume their star system is still a part of a galaxy. So, they are moving nonetheless, very fast, through space. Unless it's an extremely different universe where the planet is totally static, the sun orbits the planet, and so forth, but that seems like a stretch. The pondering here is locking it relative to the planet's surface, but not above that level (in scale). But why is that so? Why can't he lock it relative to the ship. So, it can't be moved on the ship's deck, but it will move with the ship.

Presumably the barrier is locked to the most immediately noticeable source of gravity. After all, a ship can rock, sway, and tilt in all manner of ways without keeping the crew planted in a 90-degree-angle relative to the deck they're standing on - which is probably enough to clue people in that it's very much in motion relative to the planet.
Granted, if someone who actually knew stuff about reference frames (especially the utter lack of a universal one) did the casting directly, they could probably fix the barrier in much more inventive ways - unless of course any limitations prohibiting this were baked into the magic language itself.

 

[Kreate]

The space isolating barrier is only locked relative to the magician's imagination. Those people are still on a planet with a day-night cycle and presumably seasons. It's a different universe, so who knows, but we might assume their star system is still a part of a galaxy. So, they are moving nonetheless, very fast, through space. Unless it's an extremely different universe where the planet is totally static, the sun orbits the planet, and so forth, but that seems like a stretch. The pondering here is locking it relative to the planet's surface, but not above that level (in scale). But why is that so? Why can't he lock it relative to the ship. So, it can't be moved on the ship's deck, but it will move with the ship.

I would guess it could be explained with the development of the spell. This series so far has shown magic as being researched and learned much like any other subject. There could very well be early iterations of the spell where the barrier was completely locked in place. In which case the one who used it would die shortly after. They'd probably be either floating around in space or crushed by the planet, pretty sure at least the planet would win over the spell.

 

[haoxin]

Imo Lucrezia is a dangerous double-edged sword. While her naivete can be exploited for their purposes, it also makes her vulnerable to being used by other parties. And her clumsiness might make her slip up and trigger undesirable situations. She could be educated but idk how far it will take her. And there's also the fact that she has her own agenda. I don't remember if her magic artifact crafter sis was married but she could be a candidate although she seems quite sly.

edit: scratch that, I started to reread and Margarita is already married. Then the only options they have showed us so far are either Bona, Lucrezia or one from the four dukes.

 

[finalm]

The idea of a harem is pretty hard to imagine when looking at European monarchies, where politics were strongly tied to Christian churches that didn’t allow polygamy. This is outside my knowledge, but maybe we should look into how things worked in India and China to get an idea of how politics worked with arranged marriages involving multiple wives and concubines.

European dynasties absolutely had concubines all over the place and the Church turned a blind eye. It was in part due to necessity - under feudalism every royal or noble family needed male heirs and with the high infant mortality, unfettered diseases and general dangerous way of life (especially related to frequent warfare) none could be guaranteed to outlive the father. Thus it was good practice to have as many as possible. The legal wife would not be able to bear many children and live through it herself, so concubines were brought in, though usually not advertised in public. This is pretty much how it worked all over the world, India and China just had the practise of locking said concubines up tight. The Chinese emperors even had special facilities for them, that could only by accessed by women or eunuchs

 

[finalm]

Presumably the barrier is locked to the most immediately noticeable source of gravity. After all, a ship can rock, sway, and tilt in all manner of ways without keeping the crew planted in a 90-degree-angle relative to the deck they're standing on - which is probably enough to clue people in that it's very much in motion relative to the planet.
Granted, if someone who actually knew stuff about reference frames (especially the utter lack of a universal one) did the casting directly, they could probably fix the barrier in much more inventive ways - unless of course any limitations prohibiting this were baked into the magic language itself.

The whole notion of the barrier being "immovable" is just Zenmjiro's supposition based on nothing, really. Why wouldn't it act like a ball, as pictured? If we're meant to treat it as an actual bubble in spacetime, then that has it's own serious consequences on the surroundings (mainly gravitational ones) but there's still no reason it should be fixed in location with respect to anything.

 

[Amenohi]

Most royal harems I know of that didn't include rape and pillage (looking at you Genghis) are actually political marriages. There is a very low chance for a random woman to meet the ruler. And everyone around him would like to get a closer connection by offering their daughters or sisters.

Why can't he lock it relative to the ship. So, it can't be moved on the ship's deck, but it will move with the ship.

There is one problem with locking it to the ship. It would actually be pointless (besides the original use as a defence mechanism). It won't act as an anchor that way. The whole point of an anchor is so that you don't drift of somewhere else.

 

[Thawhidol]

Lucrezia IIRC is a new character created just for the manga adaptation, so I wonder if she'll have a chance this time, or if someone else was already the choice on the original webnovel.

That's incorrect, she's in the LN.

 

[AnotherDuck]

The idea of a harem is pretty hard to imagine when looking at European monarchies, where politics were strongly tied to Christian churches that didn’t allow polygamy. This is outside my knowledge, but maybe we should look into how things worked in India and China to get an idea of how politics worked with arranged marriages involving multiple wives and concubines.

The setting looks more fantasy Arabian, and they certainly had harems there. Though I don't know the specifics. European rulers did have mistresses, though.

If it was up to me, I’d pick Princess Margarita, but she’s already married.

If someone's a catch, they're probably caught.

I love the politics of this story. It adds a wonderful element to it, over a typical harem story.

It's also mostly reasonably friendly politics, rather than the usual cutthroat, backstabbing politics we often see in stories.

Making the emergency teleportation tool (seemingly) only work for him with all those important people on board seems a bit cruel.

I think it's less cruel and more about priorities. He is a royal. If it was feasible to save more people, that probably would've been done, but teleportation isn't exactly easy, and it only gets harder with more people.

Most royal harems I know of that didn't include rape and pillage (looking at you Genghis) are actually political marriages.

Yeah, if we're talking formal marriages. Which this is. Most marriages period in history were political, even small families often handled marriages for connections and such. Marrying for love as a default is relatively new.

 

[finalm]

Most royal harems I know of that didn't include rape and pillage (looking at you Genghis) are actually political marriages. There is a very low chance for a random woman to meet the ruler. And everyone around him would like to get a closer connection by offering their daughters or sisters.

It wasn't a result of random meetings. The local ruler had ways of making his intention of welcoming a new concubine known. Of course, it wasn't really open to commoners, that would be quite a scandal. After all, people often forget that even the servants in a high ranking noble's estate tended not to be commoners, but lesser nobility. Concubines were as well. In rare cases, they were foreign royal women, though only if actually marrying them to other rulers failed, since at least under Chrisendom, this kind of arrangement was not recognized as marriage.

 

[AAA1]

personally i hope it's from one of the 4 dukes. it's just my best bet