Dainana Maouji Zilbagias no Maou Keikokuki - Vol. 1 Ch. 4 - A Pointer for Destroying the Kingdom

[SonicWizard]

also, it's interesting that devils and demons are separate races here.

Devils and Demons have always been separate entities. They are both of infernal origins but Devils are lawful evil and Demons are chaotic evil to put it into DnD terminology. Even in religion though they are separate.

 

[zokoi19]

Devils and Demons have always been separate entities. They are both of infernal origins but Devils are lawful evil and Demons are chaotic evil to put it into DnD terminology. Even in religion though they are separate.

yeah ik, but most generic fantasy manga usually group them together, which is why I was surprised that this one actually does separate them

 

[Salfaro]

I was worried about where they were going with this last chapter, but I'm actually glad to see that having the demon history revealed is just "yeah, they actually are just super warlike for their own good", and not some sob story about how oppressed they were / how humans were the true evil, or whatever.

Not that I don't also like those kinds of stories, but it'd feel kinda goofy to have a manga set up as a "revenge for humans" plotline and then immediately sidetrack it into "well actually I can't do that because the demons aren't the real bad guys here..." or something.

 

[rluka]

yeah ik, but most generic fantasy manga usually group them together, which is why I was surprised that this one actually does separate them

In web novel at least, the authors seems to have got a consensus about how to use the terms for those 魔 creatures.
魔族 is used to refer to a humanoid species, just like human, elf, dwarf. Translation also seems to settle with "demon".
悪魔 is for creatures from different plane, and translators commonly use "devil".
The fun came when 魔神 got translated as "demon god" because in term of species they're usually closer to devils, but demon god just rolls better off the tongue compared to devil god.
魔獣 usually refers to lower level magical beasts that looks like animals. While 魔物 can be more wide in definition including those weird things such as tentacle monsters.

Although TenSlime also use 魔人 to refer to monsters with human shape (but not referring to a single race).

The magics are more headache inducing as the WN authors don't seem to have anything as guideline (unlike DnD rulebooks who has guide on subtle difference between magician, wizard, sorcerer, warlock, etc).
So good luck with choosing the translation term when stuffs like 魔法, 魔術, 魔導 all got used in a single series.

 

[Outflanks10]

After what happened to Her Majesty's Swarm, the thought of that is truly upsetting to me.

So very true I only found Her Majesty's Swarm a few days before it was axed, I was super upset still such a good story.

 

[Kvngneptune]

Thanks for the tl great work

 

[Feim]

thanks to the TL team so that we can have doses of sofia again

 

[NizumiHD]

Shit taste. Lolis growing up is the worst trope.

Based

 

[ForTheJerusalem]

this gonna be another loli shit or will kids grow up over time?

Lolis growing is the worst thing ever, any artist who does so should be ashamed.

 

[MDC]

I was actually hoping for the first demon king to be reasonable, I'm surprised to be so disappointed. Ah well, no need to pity these fuckers then.

I'm actually glad the author went this way, we have a lot of manga's were the demon's are "misunderstood" or just a different side of mankind (something similar to that at the end of the day). While they aren't mindless creatures (having culture and knowledge) they are flawed enough to make you hate them along with the MC.

 

[jaymsjags06]

This manga needs a Frieren. Demons here kill to make sure they are united, and are more of a threat to humanity

 

[AnotherRat]

💢💢💢 RAPE 💢💢💢

 

[Aztecreader]

Humans do the exact same thing. We were all barbarians with the only rule of the strong survive. The first demon lord did exactly what humans have done before.

 

[Kutabarie]

First demon king is so fucking stupid. He was fed-up with his uncivilized tribe because they were killing each other, and after his long eventful trip, his resolution was to fuck up every other race just so his own would have someone else to fight? I would say how about you educate your retarded brethren, but I guess they wouldn't learn much as he is on the same braincell as them if this is the best he can think of.

 

[rluka]

First demon king is so fucking stupid. He was fed-up with his uncivilized tribe because they were killing each other, and after his long eventful trip, his resolution was to fuck up every other race just so his own would have someone else to fight? I would say how about you educate your retarded brethren, but I guess they wouldn't learn much as he is on the same braincell as them if this is the best he can think of.

About this, he seems to believe it’s beyond mere stupidity. He believe the tendency for violence and conflict is hardcoded into their being, so it’s not something they can do anything about.

So he choose to direct that aggressive nature to other races instead.

 

[SalvySaroj]

It's so damn good(except mc race discrimination, well most likely that will be fixed latter on) but why it's only 8 chapters till now🥲

 

[00nowhereman]

finally non sob backstory for the oppressor
usually they just told that human or other race push them to this

 

[M0NST3R]

It feels like this manga is actually going to go down the "actually kill all the demons" route. It's nice

 

[Arette]

Im hoping the author actually explores on this complicated issue and challenge the MC’s perspective on demons instead of bland edgy isekai #3859 where the he kills everyone in his path (unless they’re hot lolis/milf then they get turned into s*x slaves). We already have redo of healer no need for another.

 

[shira952]

Lmao, funny how the first demon king think is very much like how human would think.