Fukushuu wo Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru - Vol. 1 Ch. 2.2

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Logical evolution of isekai.
At first it was a solid trope where MC used his knowledge. Then it started mutating until "isekai" part degraded to just one chapter about transmigration, or even just a few pages about it. And now we are able to see the final form, just a tag. No one really is reading this chapters about isekai pretext this days and looks like manga authors are understanding it as well.
We were born too late to explore the world, and too early to explore the galaxy. But we were also born just in time to see the death of isekai genre.
 
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There was like a single line after he died about how he knew the blank-white afterlife room from when he first died, or before he arrived in that world. Really, it holds little weight at all, and the isekai tag is just there as a cheap plot device so the MC can come into contact with a pushover goddess that can give him the tools he needs to be OP.
 
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How is MC decisive and an alpha male after just two chapters simply because of the author forcing insanity on him? He hasn't decided anything other than "I'm going to go mad cause you killed me and I'm going to smack around a goddess." That's about it. The other things he's done has barely been shown. He crashed a parade, we're shown it after the fact, then in chapter 2 we're shown him start to crash a parade. Beyond that, nothing decisive, just one track minded, one dimensional. Nothing alpha, he's just out to get revenge on someone who happens to be a woman.
 
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@elroy79 being so upfront about his revenge and unwavering even when he's being offered an easier alternative seems pretty decisive for me, desicive as in "I have a goal, I'll definitely do it until the end, don't try to persuade me otherwise." Well at this point it's indeed rather one dimensional, but that's not the point, was it? Some people just wanted an MC being decisive with his goal once in a while. Remember that a lot of series have an MC without any goal at all, they doesn't have any crave to do something other than following the flow.

Also about being alpha, it's the same with the decisiveness of the MC: people just wanted to see an MC who retaliate when they're being treated like shit. They wanted to see the MC being in control/domineering instead of going with the flow.

Some people didn't really care about epic storytelling with multifaceted characters, they just wanted something fresh for a change.
 
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None of this is really fresh. There are a ton of "revenge" stories out there with one-track-minded revenge seeking characters, who mind you, often don't really seek revenge on the main person they need to seek revenge on and instead it's just used as an excuse to have them be anti-heroic. Or in other words, the author can use this to let them kill at will rather than have to worry about any type of internal morality halting the character.

That's not decisiveness, that's a plot device. Especially considering he most likely won't really do much to the princess just like the other well liked revenge manga, all the MC did was wipe her mind and have sex with her. That's not really alpha-maleish, either. That's just warped morality and what not.

My point is he hasn't done anything yet. He's decisive just by turning down the goddess' offer of remaining in eternity? That wasn't decisiveness, that was obsession. Whether he stays on his revenge goal is not necessarily decisiveness, it's still more so leaning toward obsession. Got to learn to distinguish between a decisive character who makes his own decisions throughout a story versus an obsessed character who is just forcefully obsessed by a plot device. Most revenge stories force the MC to be obsessed with revenge as a plot device because well it's a revenge story.

Yeah, I realize some people don't care about epic storytelling, but to say this is fresh ignores all the other revenge manga, novels, etc. out there that sort of follow the same trope.
 
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yeah, this has become an irritating trend, and i think going digital is the reason why its happening.
 
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i hope that this feels different, instead of being the base revenge isekai id like to see if this was the birth of a villain who fights new heroes, but i know that wont be the case
 
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I can't believe it's not wuxia! The "original power" stuff is strange. That's basically saying he was never human in the first place. He may as well be a god himself.
 
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FuCk Yes, I'm in this full troddle.
Also, not only was he betrayed and killed his companions were raped, tortured and killed(some sister of his too). Just don't lose your way hero and I'll sticking with this manga till the end
 
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his original power was the power of "darkness"
everything just went on the right track.. or was already on the right track and this was preset to happen.. we all know that demon lords are creatures heavily associated with immense power of darkness and corruption right?

He may either be a god of darkness/revenge or may be the rebirth of a demon lord as there will always be one.
 
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This isn't even Isekai, is it?

I mean he is being resurrected into the exact same world he left. There is no other world. Ergo it isn't Isekai.
 

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