Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 32 - She called me an idiot!

[noleafclover75]

It's gonna be funny when we've been in the flashback longer then the present

Technically we already are. There have been more pages illustrated for the past than the present.

 

[GennArc]

Technically we already are. There have been more pages illustrated for the past than the present.

Technically we are far from it because all novel chapters are more or less of the same length.

 

[ComNguoi]

I don't really see why Yuu going to another girl once he fully realizes that he had no chance to be with Hikari is being portrayed as wrong. It was either that or hold onto a crush that would never be return as far as Yuu is concerned. And considering that Hikari has turned down other boys, some of whom, were better than Yuu because, and in her own words, "wasn't interested in romance", and that's not even mentioning the fact that Hikari would help other girls ask out Yuu on dates. It's kind of easy to see why Yuu just decided to go with another girl that return romantic feelings towards him.

And before people say he should confess and moved on, what would that do? Yuu already knows he's going to get rejected, why ruin a childhood friendship for an answer that he already knows is going to get?

Because people don't have a sense of reality and they probably still have a crush on someone irl, so they pour their desire into this manga. In reality, what Yuu did is probably the smartest decision. Like imagine chasing someone who doesn't even like you, isn't that a simp? Here my boy Yuu gets the W losing his V card with the Yami.

 

[noleafclover75]

Technically we are far from it because all novel chapters are more or less of the same length.

Then the manga has done a shit job conveying that.

We had 109 pages illustrated for non flashbacks. In 21 chapters. Took 42 weeks for all of these pages. If there was more to be told (which there was) then they should have done a better job at telling it.

121 pages illustrated for the flashbacks. In 11 chapters. Took 22 weeks for all of these pages. This is how condensed the first 21 chapters should have been.

This is my main gripe with the series, besides yami being an awful person. But Yami being an awful person isn't bad writing, that's just her character. I just happen to hate her character and how it's written, but that's just personally.

 

[noleafclover75]

Because people don't have a sense of reality and they probably still have a crush on someone irl, so they pour their desire into this manga. In reality, what Yuu did is probably the smartest decision. Like imagine chasing someone who doesn't even like you, isn't that a simp? Here my boy Yuu gets the W losing his V card with the Yami.

Yeah super smart. Fuck a random girl who constantly lies to him and then ghost him. Super smart

 

[GennArc]

Took 42 weeks for all of these pages.

It actually took less than that because chapters 14 to 21 were published on a weekly basis.

This is how condensed the first 21 chapters should have been.

Not quite following you here. So you'd be satisfied if first 20 chapters were longer than they are, is that what you're saying?

 

[story645]

It's not about completing the task given to her, it's about "I'm interested in that person".

It's about staying interested and following through even though that person is horrible to her, which is completing the task. But also more to the point, we're arguing about execution here, Maruto used the narrative to say "hey folks, including teachers, see Hikari as someone with follow through". I think the rest of that episode shows that, you don't. 🤷‍♀️

She is not persistent, she just set up a plan that he should also follow, and then got upset that he was hesitant about it and caused a scene.

Which is persistence? Like she kept on him to go b/c he didn't give a firm no.

constantly postponing a decision under pretense of looking for the perfect moment

I think the problem is that Maruto wrote themselves into a corner here. Hikari can't successfully confess before the climax b/c "Which girl does Yuu even want to be with?" is one of the major open questions - many folks who hate the twist admit that it's one of the things keeping them reading.
So since she can't successfully confess, the next best thing is showing her not give up on the trying. She's never postponing the trying - when the confession fails, which again it has to for plot, she tries again.

 

[megaarc]

yami sitting where our boi was when he was sad

 

[noleafclover75]

It actually took less than that because chapters 14 to 21 were published on a weekly basis.

Not quite following you here. So you'd be satisfied if first 20 chapters were longer than they are, is that what you're saying?

Had to calculate to make sure how far off i was there. The first 21 chapters took 231 days to write 109 pages. Chapter 22-32 took 154 days to draw 121 pages. So in terms of weeks it took 11 more weeks to draw the first half than the second half, so I was 10 weeks off and making a note of that.

If you really want to break it down.

The first volume took 231 days to draw around 109

the second volume took 126 days to draw around 100 pages

the current volume in progress is currently at 28 days and 22 pages.


As for the second part. Yes, condense it down and give more details in the first 21 chapters, so that the story flows better. The first 21 chapters should have only been like 10-11 chapters.

 

[GennArc]

It's about staying interested and following through even though that person is horrible to her, which is completing the task.

Would she be willing to complete the task and would she have conflicting emotions about it if she didn't get interested? I sincerely doubt it.

Which is persistence? Like she kept on him to go b/c he didn't give a firm no.

She made no effort to do it, she got angry and HE made an effort to pacify her.

So since she can't successfully confess, the next best thing is showing her not give up on the trying. She's never postponing the trying - when the confession fails, which again it has to for plot, she tries again.

You're still speaking as if she does something she planned, fails and then repeats anew. The point is she doesn't do what she planned. Failing to confess is postponing the confession, because she ends up not doing anything and waiting for another chance to come.

 

[GennArc]

Had to calculate to make sure how far off i was there. The first 21 chapters took 231 days to write 109 pages. Chapter 22-32 took 154 days to draw 121 pages. So in terms of weeks it took 11 more weeks to draw the first half than the second half, so I was 10 weeks off and making a note of that.

Seeing how novel chapters consistently had similar length, I can only assume it's the artist who was too busy with something else, so they probably decided to go for a shorter format initially.

As for the second part. Yes, condense it down and give more details in the first 21 chapters, so that the story flows better. The first 21 chapters should have only been like 10-11 chapters.

...but thankfully, since the manga is going to be officially published, it will be reprinted in an extended format. Not sure what exactly they are gonna do with first chapters, but they might go through with what you're suggesting.
https://x.com/y_o_m_y_o_m/status/1871852360282275963

 

[noleafclover75]

Seeing how novel chapters consistently had similar length, I can only assume it's the artist who was too busy with something else, so they probably decided to go for a shorter format initially.

...but thankfully, since the manga is going to be officially published, it will be reprinted in an extended format. Not sure what exactly they are gonna do with first chapters, but they might go through with what you're suggesting.
https://x.com/y_o_m_y_o_m/status/1871852360282275963

It sucks but the damage was done already. I hope they do expand the first volume but it's been released already and first impressions go a long way.

 

[story645]

Would she be willing to complete the task and would she have conflicting emotions about it if she didn't get interested? I sincerely doubt it.

Like yeah she shouldn't bother trying to be friends with someone she doesn't actually have an interest in being friends with - glad we agree that's not what's happening here.

Because she's interested she decided that Aya is worth the effort. She could have decided that despite her interest Aya was too much work. She could have decided that Aya's actions meant Aya wasn't interested in being her friend and noped out.

She made no effort to do it, she got angry and HE made an effort to pacify her.

Eh, like the getting angry and pouty and the like is her conveying how important this really is to her. Like the full tantrum is when she thinks he's gonna say no - it's not her shining moment (which she admits in the narrative) but she's very much not hiding her feelings here. Yes he pacifies her feelings by caving - he could have also pacified her feelings by answering her questions about why he doesn't want to go.

she ends up not doing anything and waiting for another chance to come.

She makes her next chance by inviting Yuu out again. Waiting would be waiting for him to invite her.

 

[animan095]

WE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP

 

[Dingo777]

WE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP

 

[Aezeryel]

Ngl I have not been this entertained following discussions about a manga ever since the days of mangafox forums.

 

[fflogschampion]

This is my main gripe with the series, besides yami being an awful person. But Yami being an awful person isn't bad writing, that's just her character. I just happen to hate her character and how it's written, but that's just personally.

Her character veers on bad writing. She barely has any positive traits, her backstory is a checklist of sad moments AND other shit like implied rape (never happened, walked back for the dumbest reason ever and we know it because the author self-reported) and trying to sell herself as the literal first thing after her proper introduction (lmao what the fuck is this?) instead of just making her a regular runaway who had it rough at home through more conventional means. Then she gets a bunch of meme panels following the proper "I'm a genius" > "Oh no" template non-ironically.

And I'm still not sure if her backstory is supposed to make us sympathize with her or dislike her even more.

Ngl I have not been this entertained following discussions about a manga ever since the days of mangafox forums.

This got nothing on mangafox GE threads.

 

[RedMistKnight]

Guys, this manga is good stop hating

Is it wrong to have two protagonist?

The last of us part 2 did exactly that and no one hating.

Bro Last of Us two was reviled by fans and people hated Abby. What planet are you on?

 

[Alzu]

As far as we know, he never tried to ask Hikari out or gave her any indication of being interested.

Because he knew she was never interested in dating him. She herself says it as well. You guys are assuming if he asks Hikari would say yes, her answer would have been no, and they both know it. Why bother confessing if you know the answer beforehand?

"But he would have tried", there's a difference between trying when your chances are ambiguous and being delusional when you know you have no chance whatsoever. Yuu trying to shot his shot knowing he had no chance is just pure delusion and an unhealthy one at that. Dude silently moving on to someone else is the more realistic part. It's also why Hikari is the one being proactive in the first arc.

Bro’s a coward and folds at the first sign of adversity. Hell if not for Hikari making an effort to get involved with him again he would have probably torpedo’d their relationship anyway so he may as well have shot his shot.

What effort to get involved again are you talking about? If you're talking about Hikari visiting Yuu in his room every day, they've been doing that since elementary school.

 

[Geardofwario]

ngl this manga ended up really captivating me, which i did not expect

Like watching a train wreck in motion.