Isekai Mokushiroku Mynoghra: Hametsu no Bunmei de Hajimeru Sekai Seifuku - Ch. 29 - Idleness

[Pr1mus]

Loved this arc and can’t wait to experience it again in the manga.

yeah epecially his true power is actuallymuch more terrifying than Atou's power

 

[Quarterdane]

Was MC's survival explained somewhere further along in the original story, or...?

 

[Kurosanyan]

So is Atou an enemy for the rest of this arc or does she come home next chapter?

She was able to break the brainwash effortlessly, she will do it again

 

[InfinityKiyen]

Girl...

Erakino... You don't understand at all. You can't kill an RTS master. You need to destroy everything first. This is something Takuto has kept in mind but doesn't want to test it. Guess he knows now. He's an unbreakable object as long as he doesn't lose in war. That eliminates every assassination off the window. But they can trap him and prevent him from doing any RTS action...

Still, what happened to the D&D god? Did he throw???

Also, I see how Atou is now controlled. They rolled a net 20 which gave the 1% result of collaboration. However, even that in D&D has limitations and rules.

1. In RTS games, the hero units can NEVER kill the player. Rate 0% (Impossible by law).
2. In RTS games, the heroes CAN betray the player by moving to another faction (This is what the D&D roll 20 can apply).
3. In RTS games, the death of the player can never happen unless the following: The player gives up, all units are dead, all cities are captured, or there is bad internet. This reinforces rule 1) which makes it twice as impossible.
4. However, there are many ways you CAN hinder the player from taking action by stalling or phone calling them... This seems bad but it's not illegal... Just scummy...

So no, Erakino... Your power works just fine until you break 2 main rules. This is like pulling out a gun and killing the opponent during chess... That's an illegal move!!!

In D&D there's always an iron rule: "Every action must be within the realm of possibility." If the Dungeon Master states it's impossible or doesn't exist, a roll of 20 won't help you, dude...

Roll 20 (100%) x 0% is still 0%.

Erakino would have won if they had JUST captured Takuto. It's the unethical RTS tactics as in "Not letting them move."

But she just had to make an illegal move lol

With this in mind, if Takuto gets captured, his city is stuck in 1 a one-turn-loop of no growth. Nobody can manage the city at all without him...

Making Takuto AFK is how you kill Takuto not attack directly...

BTW this is just manga reader view only. I'm not novel reader.

 

[InfinityKiyen]

She was able to break the brainwash effortlessly, she will do it again

I think it has to do with RTS format too.

Keep in mind there's no RTS game where they can let you kill the player who controls the whole fraction. You need to beat them as RTS game allow which is to destroy the nation NOT the player itself.

So, the D&D rule meets with the "impossibility" even if they land a 20 roll... How can they excuse themself for BREAKING RTS game rule by making the Hero of the RTS game kill the player?

That sounds like pulling out a gun and shooting the chess player using Queen Piece... Do you see the problem now?

D&D allow any freedom within the realm of possibility... What they did is impossible lol

So yes the D&D attempt to cheat and fail spectacularly.

 

[Al_Azif]

Someone's about to have a very merry Christmas

 

[killerkubskn]

Well RTS player can't be kill. That is the rule of this genre of game. Their losing term came either all their base is destroyed/surrender or losing by point at time end. And there seems like no end time in this story.

 

[Aegisx15]

So is Atou an enemy for the rest of this arc or does she come home next chapter?

Spoiler: Atou

She's an "enemy" for the rest of the arc.

 

[Madologist]

Girl...

Erakino... You don't understand at all. You can't kill an RTS master. You need to destroy everything first. This is something Takuto has kept in mind but doesn't want to test it. Guess he knows now. He's an unbreakable object as long as he doesn't lose in war. That eliminates every assassination off the window. But they can trap him and prevent him from doing any RTS action...

Still, what happened to the D&D god? Did he throw???

Also, I see how Atou is now controlled. They rolled a net 20 which gave the 1% result of collaboration. However, even that in D&D has limitations and rules.

1. In RTS games, the hero units can NEVER kill the player. Rate 0% (Impossible by law).
2. In RTS games, the heroes CAN betray the player by moving to another faction (This is what the D&D roll 20 can apply).
3. In RTS games, the death of the player can never happen unless the following: The player gives up, all units are dead, all cities are captured, or there is bad internet. This reinforces rule 1) which makes it twice as impossible.
4. However, there are many ways you CAN hinder the player from taking action by stalling or phone calling them... This seems bad but it's not illegal... Just scummy...

So no, Erakino... Your power works just fine until you break 2 main rules. This is like pulling out a gun and killing the opponent during chess... That's an illegal move!!!

In D&D there's always an iron rule: "Every action must be within the realm of possibility." If the Dungeon Master states it's impossible or doesn't exist, a roll of 20 won't help you, dude...

Roll 20 (100%) x 0% is still 0%.

Erakino would have won if they had JUST captured Takuto. It's the unethical RTS tactics as in "Not letting them move."

But she just had to make an illegal move lol

With this in mind, if Takuto gets captured, his city is stuck in 1 a one-turn-loop of no growth. Nobody can manage the city at all without him...

Making Takuto AFK is how you kill Takuto not attack directly...

BTW this is just manga reader view only. I'm not novel reader.

Tbf a nat 20 is best possible outcome that is plausible, not an automatic success on the action. Though, if memory serves the gm guy is "playing" some really crappy system, which is why the results are as is.

A good system and a good gm in this case would just have a nat 20 persuasion check result in "amicable relations and you aren't murder-killed". But yeah, media portrayal and memes overshoot nat 20s and 1s.

 

[Seinvolf]

Thank u always for ur great work...
^^...

Dang, he really got resurrected, hope they explain the mechanic to in the manga...
(OωO )...

 

[Lucyller]

LET'S GOOOO !!!!

Finally a new chapter, YESSSSSS!!!!!!

 

[KuroViLolitannia]

I fuckin creamed my pants with the last page

 

[WhimsiCat]

hmm, how will they fight them? they have to roll something to fight

The clue is probably in how Atou broke out of control this chapter: an action that doesn't require a roll or can't be influenced by dice roll.


Much like how the RPG game was able to teleport Isla + buff the fire guy to force a mentor's sacrifice moment, Takuto can probably do some RTS thing that DnD side can't just roll his way out of it.
When Civ Gandhi drop a duke, even if you could've nat20 diplomacy to prevent it by the time that nuke's launched you can't nat20 to cancel that nuke.

 

[DoppleK6]

I can't remember.. What type of scale of RTS is Takuto's?
Is it Starcraft? Total Warhammer? Civilizations?

 

[FadhlanZ]

I have read the LN before did they changed it?

Spoiler

If my memory is correct shouldn't Atou be hidden right now? whereas the elder trying to scrape and finding any remain of him? just for him to give a quiz on how does he survive

 

[Kurogawa]

pray gods may give you mercy, for takuto wont.

 

[Jakeh24]

Spoiler: Atou

She's an "enemy" for the rest of the arc.

That's fucking tragic

 

[Kampfarsch]

This was a whole lot of autism
A. They just left atou with MC after she just stabbed him? Why
B. They just left MC bleeding on the ground? Why
C. Bimbo saintess dares to say some shit about them accidentally friendly firing when its clearly her fault in every conceivable way?
D. The twins are just nowhere to be found? Not like they are worth shit in a fight outside of a full moon anyway
E. Roll system just makes everyone miss trivial shots? How does that make any sense

 

[Bling]

any based ln/wn readers knwo where i can go read from here?

 

[SunSun]

Specifically

Spoiler

her "master" is ... he is straight out a Pen and Paper Dungeon Master and he cheats and can declare every role a Nat 20 or a Nat 1 as he desires. But that only works for things "he can roll on".

But damn that was an awesome entrance for our MC in the last pages. He is pissed

Spoiler

when the DM simps for the one girl in the group