Isekai Nidome no Ossan, Dou Kangaete mo Koukousei Yuusha yori Tsuyoi - Ch. 14

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"Now that you have killed the commander, I have no choice but to look at you as an enemy of Localis..."
Yeah, just ignore everything that happened the minutes before. The loud shouting about assassins, said commander throwing the girl off her horse and repeatedly attacking them with the intent to kill, although they had a legal travel pass and didn't attack anyone themselves until way into the hunt (to defend themselves).
With just this sentence the author has made him a complete moron. Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.
Writing like that REALLY pisses me off.
Shouting in the middle of combat, right next to an army sortie isn't going to carry very well, you know. From the perspective of the soldiers, there's a war and their commander just engaged someone, for whatever reason - they aren't going to stand around asking questions, bro.
 
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Where could she have hidden it?

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Okay, you're obviously not paying attention, MC took off from the army camp before any talk of assassins, and Pravas wasn't on a horse; then MC goes to a fast gallop after Resonant confronts him and makes it clear he intends to kill Freya and the MC. Now how far away are all the not involved people and knights, that you expect to be overhearing all of this?
Close enough to arrive there seconds later. And you apparently haven't been paying attention to the part where I was willing to grant your point while saying that it changes nothing really.
Riku MURDERED a knight commander along with several others
He killed only the knight commander in self-defense. If others got hurt it would have only been by falling off their startled horses after shooting arrows at him.
while they are on ROYAL DUTY.
Absolutely not. Their duty was to stay stationed in expectation of the coming war. They abandoned that duty to hunt after a civilian with a valid travel permit, who hasn't committed any crimes (well, technically treason, but they don't know about that).
Second is HOW they keep bickering while on horse, THEY ARE ON HORSE!! THEY are NOT DUELING on motorcycles!!
I really don't see the point you are trying to make there.
And if you want to say why Riku escaping is stupid
Nope, never said anything about that.
 
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He killed only the knight commander in self-defense. If others got hurt it would have only been by falling off their startled horses after shooting arrows at him.
You think if someone shot a cop because the cop about to shot him, and calling that act as self defense, will be accepted by majority of law enforcement?
 
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You think if someone shot a cop because the cop about to shot him, and calling that act as self defense, will be accepted by majority of law enforcement?
To make your analogy a bit more applicable: If a shop owner shot back against a cop who in the middle of his duty and without any cause started to empty his gun at said owner, yeah, I'd definitely hope his colleagues would accept that. If they didn't, I'd be fully within my rights to judge them for it.
Pravas is supposed to be the voice of reason within the army.
 
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So I'm guessing the princess is actually possessed, rather than replaced. So it's a question whether it was the real princess who summoned the heroes, or was it the demon who did so. :thonk:
 
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To make your analogy a bit more applicable: If a shop owner shot back against a cop who in the middle of his duty and without any cause started to empty his gun at said owner, yeah, I'd definitely hope his colleagues would accept that. If they didn't, I'd be fully within my rights to judge them for it.
Pravas is supposed to be the voice of reason within the army.
Hey now, the saying isn't "some cops are bastards."

I agree with you in part. Pravas should have seen enough to be suspicious, not to immediately jump to "You're an enemy of the State!" That he doesn't shows us despite being the coolest of the knights, he's still not cool enough to see things the right way. He just saw one of his commanders do some wildly extra-legal violence, along with his little personal knight squad. Even if he couldn't overhear the crazy shit Rezanant was saying, he could start by asking his lady second in command what just happened~ Actually investigating instead of jumping to conclusions.
 
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Hey now, the saying isn't "some cops are bastards."

I agree with you in part. Pravas should have seen enough to be suspicious, not to immediately jump to "You're an enemy of the State!" That he doesn't shows us despite being the coolest of the knights, he's still not cool enough to see things the right way. He just saw one of his commanders do some wildly extra-legal violence, along with his little personal knight squad. Even if he couldn't overhear the crazy shit Rezanant was saying, he could start by asking his lady second in command what just happened~ Actually investigating instead of jumping to conclusions.
Thing is, he was still his superior, and he and everyone saw it, so they have no choice but to see Riku as an enemy (it would be one thing if ONLY HE witness it, he could play dumb, but EVERYONE saw it) of course his mind would be Changed if the bastard turns out to be a demon (I can already see the future of this, AKA Princess thinks to use him and his men when they appear, only for them to turn on her since their now awar their ranks have been "inflitrated" and since the Goon was one of the Princess "trusted Entourage" it makes HER more suspicious of "not being the Princess" Now he and the rest who DID witness the transformation can turn on her as it clues in she isn't the Liege they swore loyality to!)
 
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Close enough to arrive there seconds later.
... which he was only able to do by riding a horse of his own.

And are you seriously saying all that happened in a span of a few seconds? Just because it takes you seconds to read through pages doesn't mean the same amount of time has passed in the story. You should probably need to learn how to suspend your disbelief before you start blaming the author.
 
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... which he was only able to do by riding a horse of his own.

And are you seriously saying all that happened in a span of a few seconds? Just because it takes you seconds to read through pages doesn't mean the same amount of time has passed in the story. You should probably need to learn how to suspend your disbelief before you start blaming the author.
The paneling on pages 21-23 very clearly implies Pravas arriving within moments of Rezonant being cut down and falling to the ground.
 
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The paneling on pages 21-23 very clearly implies Pravas arriving within moments of Rezonant being cut down and falling to the ground.
But you have to take into account the difference in distance you can cover between walking, running and riding a horse
 
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But you have to take into account the difference in distance you can cover between walking, running and riding a horse
On page 22 Pravas is arriving on a horse as well, he didn't walk after them.
 
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I fully expected this to suck as most "old man adventures once again" but ended up binge reading in like two hours, this is pretty good and well written
 
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The paneling on pages 21-23 very clearly implies Pravas arriving within moments of Rezonant being cut down and falling to the ground.
You don't think I know that? Thanks, Captain Obvious.

On page 22 Pravas is arriving on a horse as well, he didn't walk after them.
EXACTLY. You're assuming he managed to find a horse, mount it, and chase after them - who were already on horseback - in a few seconds. And if everything happened within earshot of the camp - like you insist - then why the heck did he even need a horse? He could've fricking run.

You're being unreasonable. End of story.
 
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You don't think I know that? Thanks, Captain Obvious.
These are your claims as far as I understand them:

1. Pravas arrived not seconds, but an undetermined longer amount later at Rezonant's nody.
2. The paneling implies that not to be the case and his arrival having been right after Rezonant's death, and it's so obvious that I'm an idiot for even pointing it out.
3. The author is not to blame for this apparent contradiction, but the blame lies entirely with the reader, despite 2.

Okay, do you have some kind of multiple personality disorder beside just being needlessly rude or what is the problem here?

And if everything happened within earshot of the camp - like you insist -
Absolutely not what I said at any point, especially not in the post you were kind enough to link.

P.s. Oh and btw. when you say "I agree that the artist makes it look like Pravas arrived right afterwards, but I know that can't be true, because reasons." then that is literally you refusing to suspend your disbelief, not me. You should probably need to learn how to do that.
 
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On page 22 Pravas is arriving on a horse as well, he didn't walk after them.
I know, what im trying to sas is think about the distance you can cover in a galloping horse compared to walking/running, it might have been only a couple seconds but the distance covered was much greater because of the horse, but lets not nitpick at everything specially applying real life logic to a world that has magic.
 

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