Kanojo, Okarishimasu - Ch. 270 - The Girlfriend and the Birthday II (Part 7)

[Lustrist]

kazuya's 'The heart.' pg 9-10 reminds me why i hate this fucking dude

 

[austinbrook]

The gag where she says everything has to look good on her and then goes "just kidding" really stuck out to me. Made me realize she basically has no negative traits at all save for being distant (which is barely even a negative trait bc it's there for the sake of building up her ~allure~ and ~mystique~). Why does it have to be this way?

I recently read 100gfs, and I get that that's a gag comic and this is meant to be way more dramatic, but I cant help but think about how a lot of those characters end up being charming because they're constantly doing goofy dumb shit. Basically everything in that comic is played for a joke, but even then it's an opportunity for the protagonist to play off it and go "wow I sure love when my girlfriend does this goofy dumb shit." Kazuya and Chizuru interact so little, I don't know if I understand what he likes about her at all beyond her being smoking hot and feeling like an unattainable prize?

I feel like I'm too negative about this comic though so here's something I liked: I think it's sweet that she goes out of her way to ask him how she looks. It's a crumb, but I can get with it as, like, a moment of her coming to terms with the fact that she cares what kazuya thinks of her.

 

[Skashe]

Kazuya not being insufferable challenge (Impossible)

 

[Chromaticum]

The gag where she says everything has to look good on her and then goes "just kidding" really stuck out to me. Made me realize she basically has no negative traits at all save for being distant (which is barely even a negative trait bc it's there for the sake of building up her ~allure~ and ~mystique~). Why does it have to be this way?

I recently read 100gfs, and I get that that's a gag comic and this is meant to be way more dramatic, but I cant help but think about how a lot of those characters end up being charming because they're constantly doing goofy dumb shit. Basically everything in that comic is played for a joke, but even then it's an opportunity for the protagonist to play off it and go "wow I sure love when my girlfriend does this goofy dumb shit." Kazuya and Chizuru interact so little, I don't know if I understand what he likes about her at all beyond her being smoking hot and feeling like an unattainable prize?

I feel like I'm too negative about this comic though so here's something I liked: I think it's sweet that she goes out of her way to ask him how she looks. It's a crumb, but I can get with it as, like, a moment of her coming to terms with the fact that she cares what kazuya thinks of her.

Just wanna say I appreciate how it seems you internalized some of the online tiff we had last chapter. We can only get better by bouncing ideas off each other and I went a little too hard against you, I apologize for that, but I did it with reason. I saw how thoughtful you can be but how you were being too glass half empty with it. I see you as being right on the cusp of some more refined wisdom and I wanted to pass on some of mine, even if I had to be rough to do it. Playing the hardheaded role may seem rude to most, but it's a masculine way to try and cut through the B.S. of life that we all pile up in front of us to make life less painful and difficult. I hope and believe you are capable of doing this too. Hopefully in a more refined way than I can muster.

With all that said, I'll try and answer the questions you posed in your comment through my understanding of the series. It's not that she doesn't have negative traits, it's that she's impeccable at covering them up. More specifically, her negative traits are that she doesn't have many of her own traits in the first place. She's been faking her personality, acting as other people and hiding who she truly is from everyone as a defense mechanism for the struggles she had as a child. So the negative traits we'll see from her going forward are probably gonna be the ones alluded to us through those backstory moments we've gotten.

Obviously what Kazuya liked about Chizuru from the onset was her looks, he wouldn't have picked her for the first rental date otherwise. But the thing that made him fall head over heels for her was when she let herself out in display. When he said "this is all just fake" or whatever those exact words were, she took off her mask and told him how it was. She wasn't afraid to get honest and that's something he's struggled with all series long. That honesty resonated with him and through her example it's made him want to be better. On top of that, he was able to recognize how hard and talented of a worker she is by doing the rental girlfriend role and playing the perfect girlfriend. Then he saw her care for her Grandmother, which mirrored his own. Then he learned about her silent dream to be an actress. Something most people would flaunt but she actively hides it because it's not for the world, it's a dream for herself. At every turn of this manga, everything Kazuya has seen in her has made him either better, or want to be better. It was one sided for a long time, even though it wasn't because we know she's loved him since he saved her from the boat incident. She just wasn't able to accept his honesty because she wasn't honest with herself. Truly, they're already a couple, more specifically, they're doing everything a couple does for one another. Make them contemplate life, make them contemplate themselves, make them look back on their past mistakes and try to right them. And ultimately, do these things not only for themselves but for others. It definitely started that she was a smokeshow to him. But it quickly became that she was a guiding light of adulthood that he was missing in his own life. Essentially, he is a kid using her example to become more of a man. And she is someone hellbent on portraying herself like an adult but is finally learning to soften up and just be comfortable being her honest childlike self.

Sorry for the extremely long post. But I think you'll be able to use this to look at yourself (and even the rest of these grouchy commenters) and see that it's not that we can be blind to what's going on in this series. It's that it's easy for us to blind ourselves to how human this story actually is. How close to home the feelings portrayed through Kazuya actually can be to us as individuals. Most people view manga as escapism, but if you view this manga in that light you'll be doing your own life a disservice. The reason this manga will never get axed is because the Japanese know how to gleen wisdom from the manga they read. Most of us in the west only know how to consume content to ignore the problems we face each day. And I think you're smart, wise and rounded enough to see all of this when you know what angles to look at. All of us can, just some of us aren't ready to look at ourselves honestly, just like our heroine Chizuru

 

[Kaios]

I don't care about the first part of the chapter, but the betrayal at the end was funny and relatable

 

[eviljackspicer]

Kazuya not being insufferable challenge (Impossible)

The speed run is when he steps out in front of a truck

 

[eviljackspicer]

I'm wondering if this is still popular in Japan...?
I can't see any other reason why this manga didn't get the axe already.
Aside from the MC being the most obnoxious thing ever, there really has been no progress recently, and even all the Mami-thing from the trip just ended up like nothing really happened...

I'm wondering this too. I've seen so many really good manga just get axed right at their starting point, but this keeps going.
Also Chrom, are you like a psych major of something? If so, you need to get out of it, because you have this rather nasty habit of "reading" too much into other people's intentions and proceeding to think you are better then whoever you are strawmaning at the moment. These poisonous traits do not a good doctor make