Kusunoki-san wa Koukou Debut ni Shippai Shite Iru - Ch. 44.2 - Why Do I Even Like Him? (Second Part)

[CheesiBoye]

You know, I wonder if she has any ugly jealousy going on deep within her soul, like so repressed she doesn't know it exists, given she was a bit of a loner and did have some envy over others making friends back then, y'know to make things a little interesting.

But I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't have that given how bland and pure she is, imo.

Then again, it would prove snake girl's philosophy, but even then it's unrealistic to assume that everyone is bad if they happen to have some darkness within. Tricky stuff.

Im thinking the most this amounts to is her crying tearfully, probably alone because (or worse to snake girl) her two main friends are the cause of concern. She's written too innocent to have a mean jealousy, so im betting itll result in an outburst of stress/tears when she comes to understand her feelings and situation

 

[Chuito]

You know, I wonder if she has any ugly jealousy going on deep within her soul, like so repressed she doesn't know it exists, given she was a bit of a loner and did have some envy over others making friends back then, y'know to make things a little interesting.

But I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't have that given how bland and pure she is, imo.

Then again, it would prove snake girl's philosophy, but even then it's unrealistic to assume that everyone is bad if they happen to have some darkness within. Tricky stuff.

I really hope she gets super jealous. The type of jealous that snake girl would jump for joy at seeing. Then to prove snake girl wrong she works through it and ends up even closer with otobe after it.

For real tho, everyone has potential for darkness. You should familiarize yourself with your inner monster and tame it lest malicious actors will take advantage of you. Being harmless is not a virtue after all.

Though the vital difference is, being in touch with your inner darkness is not the same as snake girls stupid philosophy of everyone being selfish and or evil but just having a facade.

Keisuke, otobe and kusunoki all are genuinely kind people who in the face of harship decide to still be good. Snake bitch just broke and gave up.

 

[turjsurj]

I really hope she gets super jealous. The type of jealous that snake girl would jump for joy at seeing. Then to prove snake girl wrong she works through it and ends up even closer with otobe after it.

For real tho, everyone has potential for darkness. You should familiarize yourself with your inner monster and tame it lest malicious actors will take advantage of you. Being harmless is not a virtue after all.

Though the vital difference is, being in touch with your inner darkness is not the same as snake girls stupid philosophy of everyone being selfish and or evil but just having a facade.

Keisuke, otobe and kusunoki all are genuinely kind people who in the face of harship decide to still be good. Snake bitch just broke and gave up.

I totally agree, just cause one person fucks up doesn't mean they are evil. There's nuance to every action, usually. Sure the idol the snake girl liked might have been two faced, but idol business is incredibly stressful and not a good representation of who the idol actually are, be it good or bad.

That being said, we can agree that it's fair to cut them slack though, they are high schoolers and not adults, so they can afford to be a little naive. They got time to grow up I guess?

Empathy, compassion, sympathy are all qualities we get a much better understanding of as we get older too. Not only that, that malicious/darkness part within people is actually vital in making tough decisions, helping weigh in the good and bad, so dismissing it outright is just as bad too.

Sorry for the rambling, this type of philosophy is really interesting overall

 

[UdenEmpati]

I really hope she gets super jealous. The type of jealous that snake girl would jump for joy at seeing. Then to prove snake girl wrong she works through it and ends up even closer with otobe after it.

For real tho, everyone has potential for darkness. You should familiarize yourself with your inner monster and tame it lest malicious actors will take advantage of you. Being harmless is not a virtue after all.

Though the vital difference is, being in touch with your inner darkness is not the same as snake girls stupid philosophy of everyone being selfish and or evil but just having a facade.

Keisuke, otobe and kusunoki all are genuinely kind people who in the face of harship decide to still be good. Snake bitch just broke and gave up.

I posited awhile back that Hebikawa would have an arc that would see her addressing her own issues, and that Keisuke would be instrumental in helping her through it as someone who has/can "see through her bullshit" and call her out on it, and otherwise be unaffected by it.

I really hope that does happen, and she doesn't become a 2-dimensional character in her own right that serves as a prop for Kusunoki to Main Character her way into the romance slot at the end. Because it would also help her actually fall for Keisuke for real, and would help him fully overcome his issues he developed at her hand in middle school - but in a healthier way, that isn't him just being mad at her and writing her off. They've had actual moments of real connection already, so I'm hoping that's going to be built upon further down the line.

I'm all but certain Kusunoki will win this because she's the darling FMC and the Botan Gambit is just a pipe dream at this point. But Hebikawa, and Otobe, gaining actual ground with Keisuke would at least hopefully spur Kusunoki to not be the flat, boring character she's become up to this point.

And Hebikawa especially would help in that regard, as she wants to see Kusunoki's darkness - and successfully wooing Keisuke away from Kusunoki, assuming the later actually does decide to really face herself and stop being obstinante and wishy washy about whether she can deal with romance, would be just the method that has the most chance of successfully bringing that out of Kusunoki.

I'm bummed that both Snek & Tomboy are losing this one because of the very formula of this Genre Trope, but I'm at least expecting their characters have the same depth they've started with and don't just become props for the Perfect Heroine's Magical Actualization.

 

[Erebov]

I really hate authors that let their main characters stagnate while side characters actually get development and depth. Why is this so common? It's not even interesting storytelling... it's just annoying.

Edit: I mean, I get that they can pad the chapter counts like this for more crapitalism, but I guess I'd expect writers to take some pride in what they do and not sell out completely.

 

[Chuito]

I posited awhile back that Hebikawa would have an arc that would see her addressing her own issues, and that Keisuke would be instrumental in helping her through it as someone who has/can "see through her bullshit" and call her out on it, and otherwise be unaffected by it.

I really hope that does happen, and she doesn't become a 2-dimensional character in her own right that serves as a prop for Kusunoki to Main Character her way into the romance slot at the end. Because it would also help her actually fall for Keisuke for real, and would help him fully overcome his issues he developed at her hand in middle school - but in a healthier way, that isn't him just being mad at her and writing her off. They've had actual moments of real connection already, so I'm hoping that's going to be built upon further down the line.

I'm all but certain Kusunoki will win this because she's the darling FMC and the Botan Gambit is just a pipe dream at this point. But Hebikawa, and Otobe, gaining actual ground with Keisuke would at least hopefully spur Kusunoki to not be the flat, boring character she's become up to this point.

And Hebikawa especially would help in that regard, as she wants to see Kusunoki's darkness - and successfully wooing Keisuke away from Kusunoki, assuming the later actually does decide to really face herself and stop being obstinante and wishy washy about whether she can deal with romance, would be just the method that has the most chance of successfully bringing that out of Kusunoki.

I'm bummed that both Snek & Tomboy are losing this one because of the very formula of this Genre Trope, but I'm at least expecting their characters have the same depth they've started with and don't just become props for the Perfect Heroine's Magical Actualization.

I actually torn between fmc and tomboy. I like them both a bunch as characters and people, they both deserve a shot at happyness.

Though otobe is already loosing since MC already fell in love with kusunoki. He just doesnt want to do anything that would hurt her and is therefore just bottling up his feelings.

Cant wait until we get FMC's arc as to her trauma with romance and how it gets fixed

 

[UdenEmpati]

I actually torn between fmc and tomboy. I like them both a bunch as characters and people, they both deserve a shot at happyness.

Though otobe is already loosing since MC already fell in love with kusunoki. He just doesnt want to do anything that would hurt her and is therefore just bottling up his feelings.

Cant wait until we get FMC's arc as to her trauma with romance and how it gets fixed

ultimately I feel like everyone but Kusunoki is going to lose, assuming the contest is romance and Keisuke is the prize. That's entirely based on the formulaic way these stories are often written, and with what just transpired with Otobe this chapter, it's already started trending more and more into very well-trod territory with Losing Heroines As FMC Plot Devices.
It sucks, because I like Otobe more, and I think Hebikawa is the most interesting character of the cast thus far with the greatest potential for velocity in her character arc; but banking on authors taking risks and subverting the expectations of their reader base is a fool's errand, in my experience.

Maybe this author will buck that trend and go a different direction, but I will not be holding my breath.

As far as Backstory goes, I suspect you will not have to wait long.

 

[Kyoumades]

Cute tomboy never wins. Only exists to be sacrificed on the alter of the main couple. Sad times we live in

 

[kenrms]

Summoning snek any chapter now: 🐍

 

[KoffeeStarZ0e]

just date both of them ?

 

[Genzo16]

It's funny how she deduced who Otobe likes from such a small hint, yet they may spend 300 chapters saying things like, 'I'm not sure this is love,' and 'What is this strange feeling in my chest?'