Maryoku Mugen no Manaporter - Vol. 2 Ch. 11

[asphyxiav2]

O . o?

There are entire industries built around this concept here on Earth. Even ignoring the scams con men use to fleece their victims, we have a food industry that pumps out highly addictive food. A marketing industry that convinces you to spend. And a pharmaceutical industry that not only convinced us all we need antidepressants, but also weight loss drugs, pain killers, insulin, and any number of recreational drugs.

Point is that "the cure for X" scam is as old as there has been sick people. Just Google snake oil if you wana go down a rabbithole.

A lot of that placebo juices and syrums on Facebook reels ads

 

[jokerxhisoka]

neighboring neighborhoods? isn't that redundant?

 

[Outflanks10]

Sorry to say I'm gonna drop this, was really just wanting to see the hero get punished.
And it wasn't as harsh as it should have been, so it's kinda taken the air out of the sails for me.
Hope you all enjoy reading it still.

Thanks for all the hard work on the translation Nerissa's Barely Competent Jailbird Scans

 

[FloorRoof]

Criminals and bootleggers are known to sell 'hard-to-find' items at exorbitant prices, plus I bet they're counting on everyone being too much desperate (since they don't know what happened) to care about the prices or checking the stuff.

Good point. Some people are desperate enough to ask criminals for a loan or black market goods. Some become delusional because of utter helplessness, and against better judgement seek help in quackery because 'maybe it will help'. When they can't get legit help, they have nothing left to lose.

 

[PachotheElf]

What else would they do if they can't work? What a nice way to increase the crime rate in the kingdom

lol seriously. permanently and visibly brand the guys as criminals with no chance of rehabilitation then release them into the wild. that's a path to a successful society if I've ever seen one. guess we'll have a few chapters of people being surprised when the people that get pushed deeper into a criminal corner commit crimes.

 

[AMicrowave]

O . o?

There are entire industries built around this concept here on Earth. Even ignoring the scams con men use to fleece their victims, we have a food industry that pumps out highly addictive food. A marketing industry that convinces you to spend. And a pharmaceutical industry that not only convinced us all we need antidepressants, but also weight loss drugs, pain killers, insulin, and any number of recreational drugs.

Point is that "the cure for X" scam is as old as there has been sick people. Just Google snake oil if you wana go down a rabbithole.

ah yes, good ol radithor

 

[Salfaro]

O . o?

There are entire industries built around this concept here on Earth. Even ignoring the scams con men use to fleece their victims, we have a food industry that pumps out highly addictive food. A marketing industry that convinces you to spend. And a pharmaceutical industry that not only convinced us all we need antidepressants, but also weight loss drugs, pain killers, insulin, and any number of recreational drugs.

Point is that "the cure for X" scam is as old as there has been sick people. Just Google snake oil if you wana go down a rabbithole.

Part of what makes snake oil schemes doable is the veneer of respectability/trust the con man builds up, which is the same with the corporations you're referring to, and not what I'm talking about in my post.

They don't typically walk up to you and go "hey, look at me, I'm a convicted criminal who did things bad enough to be branded, and so is my associate here, and this guy, and this other guy. Actually we're all branded criminals. Wanna buy shady meds from us?", that's the exact opposite of how a snake oil salesman is going to try to operate.

 

[Phaaze]

The mouths, they've been grabbing more of my attention... creepy? unnerving?
It's not a comfortable feeling.

 

[Miserys_End]

I feel like insulin shouldn't be included in that list. By the time someone tells you 'you need insulin', you're at the point where you take it or parts of you start to rot off. There is no pushing or convincing, you need it or you don't. For antidepressants, yeah, but also keep in mind that a lot of the time it's patients that treat it that way and it's often hard to get docs to start you on even the low-risk starter antidepressants. They're meant to be more like a 'pickmeup', so you actually have the energy to start doing all the other stuff they tell you to do to actually solve some of your problems. They aren't supposed to be permanent or something you rely on but if you don't follow through, that's how they end up.

might be showing my ignorance, but isn't insulin on the expensive side for a must have substance to keep people alive? Not just the insulin, but also the supplies and equipment required to monitor and administrator the injections as well?

Which also completely ignores the conspiracy theories about highly addictive foods and their contribution to the number of diabetic patients.

 

[EggMiner]

His crimes weren't severe enough? He lied to the king, to try to cover up that lie he nearly ended the world, and then tried to flee from punishment for doing so when he realised he really fucked up.

Lying to someone, even a king is not worthy of a death penalty.

He didn't "Nearly end the world", the tree was already dying. It's not like anyone else was able to solve it. Without the MC and his plot armour even the Elves would have failed to save the tree. I would also not brand the event as a crime cause his actions were still taken as a part of his job. He was just exceptionally incompetent at it. If anyone is to blame it's the King for sending him there.

He tried to flee punishment, but is that worth a death penalty?

So, his crimes were 'Lying to a superior' and 'Evading capture'.

As such, he wasn't a criminal worthy of having his entire future ruined, let alone death. What would have been correct would be to try and have someone guide him, not brand his face and ruin the rest of his future.

 

[Miserys_End]

Part of what makes snake oil schemes doable is the veneer of respectability/trust the con man builds up, which is the same with the corporations you're referring to, and not what I'm talking about in my post.

They don't typically walk up to you and go "hey, look at me, I'm a convicted criminal who did things bad enough to be branded, and so is my associate here, and this guy, and this other guy. Actually we're all branded criminals. Wanna buy shady meds from us?", that's the exact opposite of how a snake oil salesman is going to try to operate.

Yes and no. Most individuals are sceptical of outsiders selling miracle cures. But that's where the conman shines.

And who said the criminals with face tattoos will be the ones selling the cure? If it was me, I would just hand wave them away as crime slaves repenting for their sins.

 

[Miserys_End]

Lying to someone, even a king is not worthy of a death penalty.

He didn't "Nearly end the world", the tree was already dying. It's not like anyone else was able to solve it. Without the MC and his plot armour even the Elves would have failed to save the tree. I would also not brand the event as a crime cause his actions were still taken as a part of his job. He was just exceptionally incompetent at it. If anyone is to blame it's the King for sending him there.

He tried to flee punishment, but is that worth a death penalty?

So, his crimes were 'Lying to a superior' and 'Evading capture'.

As such, he wasn't a criminal worthy of having his entire future ruined, let alone death. What would have been correct would be to try and have someone guide him, not brand his face and ruin the rest of his future.

I wouldnt exactly call the hero incompetent, but I would call many of his actions crimes. I think he shown a truely detestable ammount of jealousy and unearned overconfidence. He is a one trick meathead who put his own pride above his allies and showed a shocking ammount of ignorance in ignoring any and all advice of his party.

And while I understand some might rankle at the fact that disrespectful behavior in front of nobles and kings would be seen as a crime, the fact it is part of the settings means those actions are seen as crimes worthy of death. We've had many examples of this in our own bloody history as well. Hells I just ask yourself what would happen to someone who disrespects Putin or Kim Jong Un to their face… the results would be near instantaneous and almost certainly fatal.

You may not agree with their methods, or think their actions are just, but despots and feudal rulers rarely care what those lower then themselves think or feel.

 

[asphyxiav2]

Because the world doesn't want you to have Roccia.

I'm aiming for milf characters like zani not lolis😂

 

[Salfaro]

Yes and no. Most individuals are sceptical of outsiders selling miracle cures. But that's where the conman shines.

And who said the criminals with face tattoos will be the ones selling the cure? If it was me, I would just hand wave them away as crime slaves repenting for their sins.

"Who said the tattooed ones would be the ones selling it"? They did, right there in the chapter. They ask Alan, the newbie, to "sell these medicines in the village where there is a disease". Not to mention, every one of them whose face we've seen has the tattoos, so they wouldn't have anyone else to make do it from what we've seen.

They're also not just asking him to transport them to the village and have someone else do the final leg of the sale or something, because they're already there right outside the village gate unloading the wares. They're clearly getting Alan to go into the village to sell them.

 

[AnIdiotKnownAsAyden]

I'm aiming for milf characters like zani not lolis😂View attachment 14337

phoebe tho…

 

[Meridis]

might be showing my ignorance, but isn't insulin on the expensive side for a must have substance to keep people alive? Not just the insulin, but also the supplies and equipment required to monitor and administrator the injections as well?

Which also completely ignores the conspiracy theories about highly addictive foods and their contribution to the number of diabetic patients.

Well, yes and no. It depends on what you mean by 'expensive'. The actual process of manufacturing insulin is cheap and the one who developed the process freed the patient so that no one is charged for manufacturing it. Pharmaceutical companies have been found to be willfully inflating the price of it to the point where a CEO was put in jail for fraud (in the US of all places) and other companies that handle it's distribution have also been increasing their prices. This is, for the most part, considered a US problem though. It is significantly cheaper elsewhere. Though, the US has had recent legislation to try and cap the price to 35 dollars total a month from around 600 for injection devices and 1000 for the vial. Though, those caps only apply to certain people on medicare, one of the government healthcare plans.

as for the 'conspiracy theories' the addictive foods are pretty much the goal. Making your product addictive is reason/ profit enough, it doesn't have to intentionally work with a separate industry. More a 'stand alone complex' for shitty people than a conspiracy.

 

[KeyaBladeA]

I still am in disbelief about the branding system It's not just releasing a normal guy, it's releasing a guy that has a portable c4 on hand at all times and he isn't given any other option than using that bomb.

 

[Teruyo]

Might be because I did a recent binge of Archer but I got the thought of Alan and the conmen being tied up and subjected to a deranged version of Family Feud using a shotgun and kneecaps.

 

[EggMiner]

And while I understand some might rankle at the fact that disrespectful behavior in front of nobles and kings would be seen as a crime, the fact it is part of the settings means those actions are seen as crimes worthy of death. We've had many examples of this in our own bloody history as well. Hells I just ask yourself what would happen to someone who disrespects Putin or Kim Jong Un to their face… the results would be near instantaneous and almost certainly fatal.

See, the context of the conversation was if we, as readers living in a more civilised era agree with the punishment. Not with regard to the manga's medieval setting.

Alan really should have been executed.

About the death penalty, I think it’s only acceptable when the crime someone committed is truly serious. In Alan’s case, I don’t think his crimes were severe enough to deserve that punishment.

See, the user I was replying to replied to Chrno. And Chrno's comment was about Chrno's personal beliefs, not with regard to the novel's medevial setting.

 

[Miserys_End]

See, the context of the conversation was if we, as readers living in a more civilised era agree with the punishment. Not with regard to the manga's medieval setting.

But I as a person living in the so call civilized modern world agrees that the wannabe Hero has committed crimes worthy of being harshly punished for.

Even in the real world it is a crime to lie to authority figures to hide your crimes, to cause chaos and destruction while acting as a representative of a nation, to lead others into danger under false pretense, and then abandon them when your life is endangered due to your own incompetence.

At the very least such a person would be looking at a very long prison sentence and depending on the nations involved a very real possibility of execution.

Political influence might factor into the final judgment, but this dud doesn't seem to have any. So he is lucky to still have his head attached to his shoulders