Risou no Himo Seikatsu - Vol. 17 Ch. 72 - Spirit Maiden

[kikix12]

As expected, he's harsh but fair. Which means he appreciates someone who makes an effort into these studies. And you never stop learning.

Salt water magic could be good on the seas, if you could use it to get rid of most of the salt.

The difference between closed, secret patents, and publicly available sources.

Always fun when the punchline is that it was really just a story.

So basically it was a regular ritual that more or less could be one we have in our world. Except the magic projection.

Telling them Jinnias don't exist is like telling a Christian God doesn't exist.

Two experienced magicians playing around with a water puppet. Seems legit.

Yeah, if you can make it out of water, other materials are probably possible. And to use it in war or something, you won't need that complex instructions, but you do need some. Still, just walking forward can provide a shield in a battle.

It starts. Well, something starts.

Doctor Freya.

'Secret patent' is an oxymoron. Patenting is meant to allow you to profit off of your work researching something, without the worry that someone else will take those fruit of labor and profit off of them.

If the patent is secret and not widely known, then it's not a patent. Anyone that starts using it has in fact put forth the same effort and resources as you did, to get to the same result. If they are at that point not allowed to use it but have to in fact pay you just because you did it first...that is in direct contradiction to the very purpose of a 'patents' existence.

Don't get me wrong. I don't deny there exist such legal constructs as 'secret patents'. But they are just a scam, an abusive construct made by people that have zero idea or interest in anything other than money. They are on the same level as a 'legal system' that openly allows bribes so long as they are disclosed or a law that gives you control over your owned properties but stops you from utilizing that right for anything at all, unless someone else approves it.
And yes, both of the above actually exist. Because as I already implied and have no need to hold back on saying...greedy people exist. Greedy people manage to reach positions on authority, and they manage to twist them to fuel their greed. Because laws are made passive, so everything is legal (even if it's claimed illegal by law) unless someone tries to do something against it. And in many cases, the people that are meant to do something against many of the laws (government, prosecutors, police etc.) simply don't, cause it's easier to not do it and still get the money for the position.

 

[AnotherDuck]

'Secret patent' is an oxymoron.

I was using the word more informally, as a technique other people aren't allowed to use, using secrecy as enforcement rather than legal means.

 

[Meowzilla]

Salt water magic could be good on the seas, if you could use it to get rid of most of the salt.

Magic to pull the salt out of water already exists, Freya received a magic tool for that during her visit to the Twin Kingdoms (along with that an ancient artifact for calming the seas).

I think they were talking about magic to create and manipulate salt water, as apparently the language of magic considers fresh water and salt water to be different things.

 

[finalm]

It's terrifying that seemingly only Zenjirou is able to see the dangers of the water doll spell in that room.

It's pretty ridiculous, to be honest. Those 2 are supposed to be some of the brightest people in the world, yet they can't fathom how world-changing such animated "dolls" would be if improved upon? Even if only the simplest orders were possible, it's still endlessly useful and versatile. Alas, only the MC can be insightful...

 

[isoycrazy]

It's pretty ridiculous, to be honest. Those 2 are supposed to be some of the brightest people in the world, yet they can't fathom how world-changing such animated "dolls" would be if improved upon? Even if only the simplest orders were possible, it's still endlessly useful and versatile. Alas, only the MC can be insightful...

These two are Masters of their crafts. Therefore they know the limits of their skills and see no further. Zenjiro is a novice and one who has understanding of things not in this world. He doesn't know the preconceived limits and sees the dangers ahead.

I am reminded of Genia Maxwell from How the realist rebuilt the kingdom. She made a magical rechargeable battery at little cost, but only Souma recognized the full dangers it could yield.

 

[wilddeath]

It's pretty ridiculous, to be honest. Those 2 are supposed to be some of the brightest people in the world, yet they can't fathom how world-changing such animated "dolls" would be if improved upon? Even if only the simplest orders were possible, it's still endlessly useful and versatile. Alas, only the MC can be insightful...

It's not that only the MC can be insightful. he benefits from the hindsight of our world and sees the potential ways this magic can be used to harm rather than help. The two magic users in that room are too optimistic to really consider that their magic might be used for a purpose they didn't intend, and they have no idea about the mass manufacturing of magic tools that will soon hit the world which would allow for dangers.

 

[NotSomeone]

You don't owe anyone an explanation because of a work you do for free

 

[skeleton637]

So next we get an earth element that can hold a yes/no command set. 1 bit processing power obtained!

The Commodore 64 only had around 50,000 transistors so they have practically created a computer!

I mean, if they can make a working 8-bit computer in Minecraft...

 

[haoxin]

These two are Masters of their crafts. Therefore they know the limits of their skills and see no further. Zenjiro is a novice and one who has understanding of things not in this world. He doesn't know the preconceived limits and sees the dangers ahead.

I am reminded of Genia Maxwell from How the realist rebuilt the kingdom. She made a magical rechargeable battery at little cost, but only Souma recognized the full dangers it could yield.

Also now the magic users are focusing on the theoretical/scholarly side of the spell not on practicality. Once they reach that part they'll probably come up with that

 

[Kaarme]

So, uh, is he worried that the glass beads will be used to produce magic tools meant for creating those golems?

If the northern continent is planning to launch an invasion across the ocean, those golems might come in handy. In fact they would be best used already in the sea, like torpedoes, to sink ships.

 

[Tamult]

It's pretty ridiculous, to be honest. Those 2 are supposed to be some of the brightest people in the world, yet they can't fathom how world-changing such animated "dolls" would be if improved upon? Even if only the simplest orders were possible, it's still endlessly useful and versatile. Alas, only the MC can be insightful...

These two are Masters of their crafts. Therefore they know the limits of their skills and see no further. Zenjiro is a novice and one who has understanding of things not in this world. He doesn't know the preconceived limits and sees the dangers ahead.

I am reminded of Genia Maxwell from How the realist rebuilt the kingdom. She made a magical rechargeable battery at little cost, but only Souma recognized the full dangers it could yield.

Even beyond that, Zenjiro comes from a place that made computers and robots. Phones and modern technology work by being given concise instructions and building it from there. It is a lot easier for the average layman from our world who has seen robot factories and drones to see the starting point for those tech in hindsight.

Even the most intelligent of people can fall into fallacies and their own preconceived notions, particularly when the assumed limits are that 'The magic only accepts a few orders' and not that 'The orders aren't clear enough'. Instead of Turn Around, it could need 'Rotate 180 degrees' or the original words that summate to it. Also the small Golem cost 203 units, who knows how scale would work.

Also, I'm not entirely sure how many people can see the pieces that Zenjirou here has in his hands. Assuming someone more focused on practicality made the jump to how useful an Earth Golem could be moving large heavy objects, or if a modifcation (like replacing the water bit for salt water we got here) could change it so you could make iron or steel golems for defense, let alone the war crime to be of fire golems (backed by what I assume was a Wind Golem fanning the flames). The person would have to both 'Research the words' to make them functional, and know about the development of both Glass Spheres and Magic Tools that can make other Magic Tools to see Mass Production.

I'm 90% sure only Zenjirou currently has all of that info, maybe Espiridion. We can't be sure any other member of the cabinet has the insight into magic required or has read it, or the security clearance for any other part. And even Espiridion is focused on developing words/orders before enhancing the abilities.

How strange it is that we as a society harnessed steam in many ways, as it was lost and rediscovered, before being the backbone of how we produce energy? Internal Combustion Engines?

Edit: So yeah, it definitely isn't that everyone else is stupid. This is a real way that an isekai'd person from the real world would have different perceptions of technology. Recognizing similar leaps is pretty easy for pattern recognition to catch, which aren't always correct.

 

[ciera]

Thank you for the scanlation

 

[CountryMage]

There was in fact two AI / MTL attempts (C46 by ComicDom and C53 by a rando I forgot name). Needless to say they didn't continue.

I swear I thought you were about to say that two AI had actually quit when assigned the task.

 

[Wataterp]

I find it funny that there is magic that can break the boundaries between worlds and yet elemental spirits somehow don't exist. This is an easy foreshadowing that a Jinnia will show up in front of MC.

 

[popmol]

Thanks for the TL! hope you feel better now!

 

[radstylix]

• Did Zenjirou suggest peer-reviewed research?
• The dolls have a lot of potential, but requires a lot of improvements like duration and more commands. Also, I guess the magic language/programming compared to other series is a lot simpler, but if it were up to me, "programming" these dolls should be make the spell casting a LOT lengthier because of the addition of commands.

 

[Flanyl]

Someone assumed this was dead after only two months?

Talk about impatient. I've got titles in my watchlist that haven't updated in a year or more. Sometimes there will be a new release when a new group picks up the title, and I'll have to read the whole thing over.

 

[xaraphina]

Our idiot mc contemplating the impact of humanoid automatons when the real horror lies with small/undetectable assassination applications. Something like hundreds of small “air golems” composed of carbon monoxide to float around someone or directly invade their lungs and disperse.

 

[Eeliejun]

Our idiot mc contemplating the impact of humanoid automatons when the real horror lies with small/undetectable assassination applications. Something like hundreds of small “air golems” composed of carbon monoxide to float around someone or directly invade their lungs and disperse.

Or just give them a cup of water with a small emental that expands when drinking it.

 

[WhimsiCat]

So, uh, is he worried that the glass beads will be used to produce magic tools meant for creating those golems?

Not quite, more like he realized he's in position to basically decide history by offering his solutions but this is going to affect so many things that he's wary of causing problems for Aura.

He'll probably talk to Aura about it next time.