S-Kyuu Boukensha ga Ayumu Michi: Tsuihou Sareta Shounen wa Shin no Nouryoku 'Buki Master' de Sekai Saikyou ni Itaru - Ch. 2.3

[phorx]

Honestly not much to say besides Sasha having been a bitch for the past two years. At this point, she is completely irredeemable.

Can't wait for the next chapters.

Spoiler

They left it out but Sasha grabbed a hold of his jacket a second time and in response he made a rude joke asking if she planned to keep him company for the night. She replied saying she would if that's what he wanted. He then tells her to not make him any more disappointed than he already was and that she was really uncool right now. After that, he leaves just like how this chapter ends.

I hope they don’t cut that out, but it’s not looking good

 

[PechWild]

So, wait...

After their ex-teammate comes back alive from facing a dragon, which was a danger level of "you're fucking dead", and passes out, they don't wait to see if he will recover, don't wait for him to wake up to apologize and explain what happened, but instead they take on a mission like nothing happened, and never try to meet up and talk to him for two years???

Man, fuck these guys.

 

[Zharnia]

"Our dream, more like Your dream"
No more communism 😔😔😔

 

[Someone011]

Ok the Manga is a tad too sanitized in favor of Sasha and her party. And also diminishes Hyce's lack of trust into her and her party as well as his readiness to express it quite a lot, even in the presence of the king.

In the WN there is a point just after Hyce refused to be accompanied by the princess where one of Sasha's calls out Hyce on his perceived paranoia, and then recalls how both he and Hyce had the same hobby of book reading, then he tried to ask Hyce to rejoin them, saying that together "we could even be able to take on the six forbidden labyrinths" , to that Hyce answers, "that's impossible, because I don't want to be killed"
And continued by touching his eyepatch and saying "for example, if I was told that there was a place with abundant potion herbs and cheerfully go there, only for that place that was supposed to be a safe area to end up being a dragon's nest"(and continues to retell part of the story while implicating the guild on a possible cover up).

Also in the WN Hyce was warry that Sasha had finally decided to ambush him and that's why she finally decided to "apologize" and he was constantly looking for some of her other party members that might have been ready to jump him.
At that point he implies that Sasha only now decided to apologize to him because she's afraid that now that he is an S-Rank, his claims that Sasha tried to have him killed might carry weight that will damage her party/guild.

They also removed the part where Sasha tries to stop him one final time by grabbing his sleeve, then Hyce ironically asks if that's her way of saying she will be his "companion for the night". And Sasha answers "...if that's what you wish".
And Hyce answered something akin to "don't disappoint me even more." then sakes her hand off his sleeve and walks away.

At least these parts I would have liked to see in the manga, because his former companions don't really have a proper retort.

 

[Puck2]

Why would he take low level quests when he is capable of more? Even in a terrible state after being killed, S class monster remains are still exponentially more valuable. He is only doing extermination quest S class or higher in order to utilize his power better since anything lower dies in like 2 seconds so he doesn't have time to experiment.

Furthermore, he doesn't care about money or fame. Even though he could afford better lodging he lives in a run-down inn. He fights strong monsters because he has the power to do so. Therefore, he doesn't even care for the state of the loot. He knows that he can leave the weaker monster to the weaker adventurers (who need them to make money).

Spoiler: experimenting

If I remember correctly, he doesn't have such a big arsenal of guns at the moment because he still has to decipher the ancient book to unlock more. Weapons with big calibers leave a mess ;-)

 

[Puck2]

Ok the Manga is a tad too sanitized in favor of Sasha and her party. And also diminishes Hyce's lack of trust into her and her party as well as his readiness to express it quite a lot, even in the presence of the king.

In the WN there is a point just after Hyce refused to be accompanied by the princess where one of Sasha's calls out Hyce on his perceived paranoia, and then recalls how both he and Hyce had the same hobby of book reading, then he tried to ask Hyce to rejoin them, saying that together "we could even be able to take on the six forbidden labyrinths" , to that Hyce answers, "that's impossible, because I don't want to be killed"
And continued by touching his eyepatch and saying "for example, if I was told that there was a place with abundant potion herbs and cheerfully go there, only for that place that was supposed to be a safe area to end up being a dragon's nest"(and continues to retell part of the story while implicating the guild on a possible cover up).

Also in the WN Hyce was warry that Sasha had finally decided to ambush him and that's why she finally decided to "apologize" and he was constantly looking for some of her other party members that might have been ready to jump him.
At that point he implies that Sasha only now decided to apologize to him because she's afraid that now that he is an S-Rank, his claims that Sasha tried to have him killed might carry weight that will damage her party/guild.

They also removed the part where Sasha tries to stop him one final time by grabbing his sleeve, then Hyce ironically asks if that's her way of saying she will be his "companion for the night". And Sasha answers "...if that's what you wish".
And Hyce answered something akin to "don't disappoint me even more." then sakes her hand off his sleeve and walks away.

At least these parts I would have liked to see in the manga, because his former companions don't really have a proper retort.

I think it's actually a good thing that they left out the part where he encounters his former party members (maybe except for his comment to Piazzola, which was hilarious) and is afraid of being ambushed. It's a great addition in the WN because there you get that he somehow knows that it was a mistake but reacts that way because of his trauma. For him it's true and not true at the same time.
I fear that this feeling couldn't be conveyed in the manga and people would just call him stupid for still believing that they wanted to kill him.
Otherwise, I agree with you that the other team members (to be more precise Reynold and Piazzola) get off too lightly. In the WN it's a bit sad that Robin gets lumped together with the rest of the party in his thoughts.

 

[Litreara]

@equationx @Rafalga

Spoiler: Novel

What do you guys think of Sasha as a character? I’m currently reading the novel (I’m on chapter 236), and while she has a few moments here and there, I can’t help but find her annoying. She constantly butts into things, and frankly, all the other female characters introduced so far feel more interesting and compelling than she does.

 

[Puck2]

Spoiler: Novel

What’s your opinion of Sasha as a character? I’m currently reading the novel (I’m on chapter 236), and while she has a few moments here and there, I can’t help but find her annoying. She constantly butts into things, and honestly, all the other female characters introduced so far feel more interesting and compelling than she does.

Spoiler: Sasha

I think the miniature garden arc added a lot to her character because that's the point where she finally completely understood Hyce's feelings. I would say that she is en par with the other female characters.

 

[adi13841]

yeah mc go for it , lmao at first i thought that werent able to talk with each other because of mc but that bitch sasha took the mission the day next when mc was on deathbed and on top of that she was the reason , like no way im gonna believe anything coming out of her mouth if i was in hyce place , im saying it again , hyce has every reason to hate her and not associate with her meanwhile sasha is being childish for not talking for 2 yrs and letting the misunderstanding continue , even if she tried to fix it now its already too late , mc already has closed his heart from others , everything upto this point is sasha's mistake , the way she expelled mc , how her teammates make fun of mc job and how her info led mc to certain death on top of that taking another job when mc was on deathbed not to mention it all happened infront of her and then after 2 years she has the guts to say "our dream" and "i was afraid" , yeah thats what you called being childish , and all those people driding sasha , guys we are watching the story so we know whats happening , its not the same for characters , if u want to judge think from their perspective

 

[Litreara]

Spoiler: Sasha

I think the miniature garden arc added a lot to her character because that's the point where she finally completely understood Hyce's feelings. I would say that she is en par with the other female characters.

Spoiler

What arc is this? I’m not sure if I’ve read it based on the name. I’m currently at the part where Hyce and Sasha meet Eclipse.

 

[lengend]

Mc still seems to have normal interaction with the old man and other who are not part of this shitty team... so yeah keep it up young man ! Make her eat her words a thousand time ! Thanks for the translation 🫡

 

[Rannchan]

Weapon master? More like sheeting master. Amirite

 

[Rafalga]

@equationx @Rafalga

Spoiler: Novel

What do you guys think of Sasha as a character? I’m currently reading the novel (I’m on chapter 236), and while she has a few moments here and there, I can’t help but find her annoying. She constantly butts into things, and frankly, all the other female characters introduced so far feel more interesting and compelling than she does.

Spoiler: Sasha

She is pretty much an emotinally stunned battlejunky who harbors absolutely no malice. She is like a female Luffy. I pretty much believe she is on the spectrum as well. She can't comprehend others feelings unless directly told to her face. Like the confessions of Raynold and the lez saint. Hyce is hardened due to the "betrayal" and had to grow up early and alone because of it. Luckyly he had a solid foundation and didn't stray away from the moral path.

She however didn't experience anything of the sort because she is pretty much being "pampered" by her party. Like how she says she feels useless when she follows Hyce to the flying castle? Because all she does in the clan is paperwork and fight. She has absolutely ZERO people skills where as Hyce had to build himself up all on his own by trail and error. He understand what people are expecting of him but just chooses to ignore it because he doesn't really care enough most of the time (like in the case of elf who obviously loves him). But he chooses to train Claire for example because she was determined like he was and he doesn't want to cut off the weak because they are weak.

In short, she has ALOT of growing up to do before she can truely stand next Hyce. I don't know if the author is aware of this though.

 

[Tych]

Good job Hyce, he said what needed to be said. Now he just needs to grow up without dying.

To the TL: My position remains the same. There was definitely plenty that Sasha was wrong about and they absolutely should not party again, but Hyce is being a damn child carried entirely by the cheat power. Not having loot efficiency and insisting on increasing the difficulty rating anyway as a solo only works because he seems to be getting manufactured weapons that take infrastructure on the level of an industrial city. And the power seems to be bigger than IRL guns too.

Not to Anti the first part of your argument but Sasha's entire party has Cheat power users, Sasha is a Cheat power User, Hyce only suffered because everyone was illiterate and didn't know what a gun was when his power was revealed so there is that.

Everything else yeah I kinda agree with Sasha could have just not taken a quest til Hyce woke up, her and her party could have split up and she could have had a talk with Hyce after he woke from the dragon you know alone there are any number of scenarios that Sasha could have done over the past 2 years reconcile with Hyce she didn't and let's not act like Hyce losing an eye isn't a constant reminder of that fact

 

[equationx]

@equationx @Rafalga

Spoiler: Novel

What do you guys think of Sasha as a character? I’m currently reading the novel (I’m on chapter 236), and while she has a few moments here and there, I can’t help but find her annoying. She constantly butts into things, and frankly, all the other female characters introduced so far feel more interesting and compelling than she does.

Spoiler

i don't hate her, i quite like her actually, i do like that when she have no one influencing her (a.k.a some of her teammate), she actually is written as straightforward character like when's she's alone with hyce in the sky labyrinth, or when she finally get to speak to him of what he think of her and vice versa
she gets even better as a character when she finally get to try adventuring alone and find out how hard it actually is being solo even just defeating S rank enemy, not even S+ or even SS+/SSS, which makes her understand hyce even more

you can easily tell how good she is written as a character when she's not with piazolla that agreeing with everything she thinks and piazolla going "no you're not wrong" when sasha is wrong, or having reynold there pampering her too much that she ended up being too reliant on her own team
when she finally rejected reynold confession, you won't have to read as much of reynold pampering her too much as well

the unfortunate part is that, as i'm pretty sure you noticed, most of the chapters with her early on are with those 2, 'cause the part when she's only with robin or tycoon actually when she shine the most as a character, because it gives even more depth to her character when author show her proper monologue or conversation of what she actually think

she's written to be as dense as a diamond when it comes to romance part though

Spoiler: Sasha

She is pretty much an emotinally stunned battlejunky who harbors absolutely no malice. She is like a female Luffy. I pretty much believe she is on the spectrum as well. She can't comprehend others feelings unless directly told to her face. Like the confessions of Raynold and the lez saint. Hyce is hardened due to the "betrayal" and had to grow up early and alone because of it. Luckyly he had a solid foundation and didn't stray away from the moral path.

She however didn't experience anything of the sort because she is pretty much being "pampered" by her party. Like how she says she feels useless when she follows Hyce to the flying castle? Because all she does in the clan is paperwork and fight. She has absolutely ZERO people skills where as Hyce had to build himself up all on his own by trail and error. He understand what people are expecting of him but just chooses to ignore it because he doesn't really care enough most of the time (like in the case of elf who obviously loves him). But he chooses to train Claire for example because she was determined like and he doesn't want to cut off the weak because they are weak.

In short, she has ALOT of growing up to do before she can truely stand next Hyce. I don't know if the author is aware of this though.

Spoiler

i don't know how far you read already, but author is completely aware of that

 

[In_The_Nightside_Eclipse]

Man such shame the detail in WN missing, after grabbing his sleeve for the second time Hyce sarcastically asking Sasha to "become companion for the night" and sasha reply with "if that what you wish" so she basically try to offer her body to Hyce, which he reply "don't make me disappointed even more" he imply that she willing to become cheap woman and then left.
Later on she talk about this and admit that she try to offer her body to warm Hyce bed.

 

[Tych]

2 years and she still didn't apologize....no wonder he won't forgive her. Also I REALLY want him use other weapons than just guns https://images.app.goo.gl/53YXGq8xn6kA6bsv8

I don't believe it was explained very well in the first part but his weapon mastery is in guns and firearms only only so . . .

 

[Rafalga]

Not to Anti the first part of your argument but Sasha's entire party has Cheat power users, Sasha is a Cheat power User, Hyce only suffered because everyone was illiterate and didn't know what a gun was when his power was revealed so there is that.

Yes Sasha spesificly has a cheat power. There are literally just 2 other sword masters in the world. Sasha hard carries her party (fighting power wise) and they are mostly there for basic support and not getting themselfs killed in the process. She is pretty useless when it comes to anything other then fighting though so she needs them unlike Hyce who has every neccesary knowledge to stay solo.

She would be entirely helpless if she decided to go solo like he did at this point. She is so depanded on them.

 

[Rafalga]

Spoiler

i don't know how far you read already, but author is completely aware of that

Spoiler

I'm just at the tail end of 40 thiefs arc (the aftermath) so there is quite of it left still i think. But that's good to hear regardless

 

[In_The_Nightside_Eclipse]

Yes Sasha spesificly has a cheat power. There are literally just 2 other sword masters in the world. Sasha hard carries her party (fighting power wise) and they are mostly there for basic support and not getting themselfs killed in the process. She is pretty useless when it comes to anything other then fighting though so she needs them unlike Hyce who has every neccesary knowledge to stay solo.

She would be entirely helpless if she decided to go solo like he did at this point. She is so depanded on them.

Yeah later on she develop this sense of inferiority especially after separate with her clan and party and she doing mission separate without them a lot, she realize she helpless and weak, everything went smooth because she has team to back her up against enemy, while Hyce doing it alone.