Sankakkei no Kowashi-kata - Vol. 4 Ch. 13

[iizetsubou]

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[Gustbk]

I really do appreciate that this comment section is mostly composed of analytical people like me. Sounds silly but if I arrive late to reading a chapter it’s basically guaranteed that someone would comment the exact thing I wanted to point out.
It’s the little things that make the experience.

Thanks for the chapter

 

[Lilliwyt]

I think her only family was her grandma, who they said died while she was "gone"

granpa*

 

[liolin]

Ah right, grandpa.

 

[liolin]

So far, Erika does seem to be the most likely to be tied to AyaPrimes disappearance. She seems to often probe her for info, which could be her seeing how much this Aya knows. Erika seems to be the last person to see her, and she seems worried that she would recall something from that day. Granted, that could be just her being more like "logic brained", and it may be they had some big fight so she blames herself for Aya disappearing. Theres also the question of how could a 14yo girl make someone completely vanish.

 

[pyritepony]

Thanks for the translation!

 

[kazeninaru365]

Tbh, re-reading the earlier chapter, there is a hint about Erika’s wish at the Tanabata festival as an adult 7 years later wishing Aya to come back.

This makes me think Aya’s disappearance may be Erika’s wish at the Tanabata festival 7 years ago as well.

Koto is not the best character in this manga, but some comments have been quite harsh to her. She really loves Aya (maybe not the Aya that she is afraid of changing right now, but the ideal Aya from 7 years ago) - this kinda make the story make sense why Koto is so traumatised with losing Aya to someone else and that she is moving forward too fast trying to try new things. Reflecting this back on Koto’s past experience with Aya’s disappearance and Aya’s thought of “going somewhere” - of course she would not want to let Aya go. Not saying that as an adult, this is the correct behavior to especially a minor like Aya. On the other hand, this is why the character development and plot lines of the manga so interesting.

They are not perfect characters that we will all like or a fan of. But to all of their defenses - the three of them are perfect depiction of what a manga character is and the build-up for all of the mystery is super fascinating to follow every month.


Can’t wait for more!! If you can buy the comics to support sensei, that would be great too!

 

[yaqwalker32]

Man... The feels 😭😭😭

Thanks for the chapter, btw

 

[trang1104]

This makes me think Aya’s disappearance may be Erika’s wish at the Tanabata festival 7 years ago as well.

If that were true, then Erika would be a very, very terrible person. Because she didn't wish for Aya to come back right after she realized what she had done, like in the next year. She only does that when it's convenient for her (she wants Koto to move on).

 

[lloyd998]

So, I got recommended to read this series with an open-mind. Honestly, it is difficult for me to read this chapter with an open mind knowing what is presented so the best I can do is break up my analysis into 2 separate sections:

The Outer Perspective

The Inner Perspective (Love Triangle).

=====//=====

The Outer Perspective

I have no choice but to paint both Erika and Koto as terrible people in this perspective. The reason should be obvious, I hope.

Both Erika and Koto are only acting out of self-interest which is only going to further damage Aya, the 14 year old.

While Erika's actions are forthright and, currently, the correct course of action, I can only imagine how much danger Aya will be put in if Aya truly distances herself from Koto and Erika uses that as an opportunity to date Koto.

Does anyone understand what would happen to Aya after that? Aya would have no one to trust in this world anymore (not like she doesn't right now), she would leave both Erika and Koto alone purely out of "consideration" and "not to make things too awkward" because she is thinking like a 14-year old girl. So, from this perspective, I cannot help but be extremely mad at both Erika and Koto using Aya to satisfy their own selfish endeavors KNOWING that Aya has NO ONE to turn too except those two.

So, if Erika and Koto are not putting this child's future first in their minds (Making sure that Aya has a roof over her head, has food to eat, a place to sleep and study), then in a world where Aya does not even have a middle school education, Aya's only choice moving forward to a brighter future is "shady" work, which is NOT good.

All-in-all, Aya is clearly the victim. I appreciate the efforts that Erika is making to help Aya, but if Erika ends up dating Koto and Aya finds out, then that would ultimately hurt Aya and, I don't think I need to remind you all, but Aya is 14 YEARS OLD, despite being legally registered as a 21 year old.

Lastly, for this perspective, the only person I can appreciate is Kumagaya for finding Aya a job and introducing Aya to a person (albeit a guy) who has a similar backstory as Aya. Obviously, I hope they don't date but I can not fathom how scary this world must be for Aya to be living in right now without someone to relate too.

=====//=====
Inner Perspective

If I look at this purely from the love triangle, ignoring the... "elephants" in the room... I can understand Koto's reactions being very concerned about losing Aya being spirited away again. I can appreciate Erika showing Aya a true reflection of reality, instead of this false-rosy painting that Aya and Koto are trying to box themselves in.

In that sense, I can appreciate Erika for being realistic, I can understand Koto's reaction.

So, there's a broader question to ask in this scenario (ignoring Outer Perspective), which is:


"Are both parties emotionally mature enough to maintain a relationship grounded in reality."

It's clear that Aya loves Koto and vice versa. Typically, I'd get a shotgun and shoot Koto down without hesitation, but the premise of this story is raising an interesting question which is: "What if you lost someone you loved and they came right back still in love with you?" My outer perspective still trumps my inner perspective due to Aya being 14 years old with no education, but, if you are unable to move past your love and they disappeared and reappeared 7 years later... then do you still love them? Should you still love them if you still feel that way? That question is very much in the gray zone because there isn't a right answer imo. If Aya was spirited away at 21 and the entire situation was the same, this would probably just be another normal love triangle. The main issue is Aya being 14 that makes this VERY difficult on Aya.

 

[kazeninaru365]

So, I got recommended to read this series with an open-mind. Honestly, it is difficult for me to read this chapter with an open mind knowing what is presented so the best I can do is break up my analysis into 2 separate sections:

The Outer Perspective

The Inner Perspective (Love Triangle).

=====//=====

The Outer Perspective

I have no choice but to paint both Erika and Koto as terrible people in this perspective. The reason should be obvious, I hope.

Both Erika and Koto are only acting out of self-interest which is only going to further damage Aya, the 14 year old.

While Erika's actions are forthright and, currently, the correct course of action, I can only imagine how much danger Aya will be put in if Aya truly distances herself from Koto and Erika uses that as an opportunity to date Koto.

Does anyone understand what would happen to Aya after that? Aya would have no one to trust in this world anymore (not like she doesn't right now), she would leave both Erika and Koto alone purely out of "consideration" and "not to make things too awkward" because she is thinking like a 14-year old girl. So, from this perspective, I cannot help but be extremely mad at both Erika and Koto using Aya to satisfy their own selfish endeavors KNOWING that Aya has NO ONE to turn too except those two.

So, if Erika and Koto are not putting this child's future first in their minds (Making sure that Aya has a roof over her head, has food to eat, a place to sleep and study), then in a world where Aya does not even have a middle school education, Aya's only choice moving forward to a brighter future is "shady" work, which is NOT good.

All-in-all, Aya is clearly the victim. I appreciate the efforts that Erika is making to help Aya, but if Erika ends up dating Koto and Aya finds out, then that would ultimately hurt Aya and, I don't think I need to remind you all, but Aya is 14 YEARS OLD, despite being legally registered as a 21 year old.

Lastly, for this perspective, the only person I can appreciate is Kumagaya for finding Aya a job and introducing Aya to a person (albeit a guy) who has a similar backstory as Aya. Obviously, I hope they don't date but I can not fathom how scary this world must be for Aya to be living in right now without someone to relate too.

=====//=====
Inner Perspective

If I look at this purely from the love triangle, ignoring the... "elephants" in the room... I can understand Koto's reactions being very concerned about losing Aya being spirited away again. I can appreciate Erika showing Aya a true reflection of reality, instead of this false-rosy painting that Aya and Koto are trying to box themselves in.

In that sense, I can appreciate Erika for being realistic, I can understand Koto's reaction.

So, there's a broader question to ask in this scenario (ignoring Outer Perspective), which is:


"Are both parties emotionally mature enough to maintain a relationship grounded in reality."

It's clear that Aya loves Koto and vice versa. Typically, I'd get a shotgun and shoot Koto down without hesitation, but the premise of this story is raising an interesting question which is: "What if you lost someone you loved and they came right back still in love with you?" My outer perspective still trumps my inner perspective due to Aya being 14 years old with no education, but, if you are unable to move past your love and they disappeared and reappeared 7 years later... then do you still love them? Should you still love them if you still feel that way? That question is very much in the gray zone because there isn't a right answer imo. If Aya was spirited away at 21 and the entire situation was the same, this would probably just be another normal love triangle. The main issue is Aya being 14 that makes this VERY difficult on Aya.

That’s understandable OP, quite detailed analysis. I enjoy this thoroughness, I’m glad that you try to read the manga with an open mind.

100% feel like the author made a bad move when she wrote them in middle school instead of high school I’d prefer this set in senior year high school and Aya disappeared for 7 years. So, we would have 18 vs 25 rather than 14 vs 21, creating a more normal triangle.

Then, the topic about Aya being a minor will be less controversial so that we can highlight the main premise about long lost love in your inner POV.

I have to say that this story is based on the Tanabata theme. The Tanabata festival is actually a big deal in Asia for its significance on romantic love, so your whole inner POV is spots-on, that is exactly it.

 

[kazeninaru365]

If that were true, then Erika would be a very, very terrible person. Because she didn't wish for Aya to come back right after she realized what she had done, like in the next year. She only does that when it's convenient for her (she wants Koto to move on).

Well, we don’t know the whole picture. I do think each character has their own flaws (and missing POVs) that we hopefully get a clearer understanding soon.
Hint is that this story is taking inspiration from “Chuyện Tình Ngưu Lang Chức Nữ” in one way or the other.

 

[Aquarius0225]

So, I got recommended to read this series with an open-mind. Honestly, it is difficult for me to read this chapter with an open mind knowing what is presented so the best I can do is break up my analysis into 2 separate sections:

The Outer Perspective

The Inner Perspective (Love Triangle).

=====//=====

The Outer Perspective

I have no choice but to paint both Erika and Koto as terrible people in this perspective. The reason should be obvious, I hope.

Both Erika and Koto are only acting out of self-interest which is only going to further damage Aya, the 14 year old.

While Erika's actions are forthright and, currently, the correct course of action, I can only imagine how much danger Aya will be put in if Aya truly distances herself from Koto and Erika uses that as an opportunity to date Koto.

Does anyone understand what would happen to Aya after that? Aya would have no one to trust in this world anymore (not like she doesn't right now), she would leave both Erika and Koto alone purely out of "consideration" and "not to make things too awkward" because she is thinking like a 14-year old girl. So, from this perspective, I cannot help but be extremely mad at both Erika and Koto using Aya to satisfy their own selfish endeavors KNOWING that Aya has NO ONE to turn too except those two.

So, if Erika and Koto are not putting this child's future first in their minds (Making sure that Aya has a roof over her head, has food to eat, a place to sleep and study), then in a world where Aya does not even have a middle school education, Aya's only choice moving forward to a brighter future is "shady" work, which is NOT good.

All-in-all, Aya is clearly the victim. I appreciate the efforts that Erika is making to help Aya, but if Erika ends up dating Koto and Aya finds out, then that would ultimately hurt Aya and, I don't think I need to remind you all, but Aya is 14 YEARS OLD, despite being legally registered as a 21 year old.

Lastly, for this perspective, the only person I can appreciate is Kumagaya for finding Aya a job and introducing Aya to a person (albeit a guy) who has a similar backstory as Aya. Obviously, I hope they don't date but I can not fathom how scary this world must be for Aya to be living in right now without someone to relate too.

=====//=====
Inner Perspective

If I look at this purely from the love triangle, ignoring the... "elephants" in the room... I can understand Koto's reactions being very concerned about losing Aya being spirited away again. I can appreciate Erika showing Aya a true reflection of reality, instead of this false-rosy painting that Aya and Koto are trying to box themselves in.

In that sense, I can appreciate Erika for being realistic, I can understand Koto's reaction.

So, there's a broader question to ask in this scenario (ignoring Outer Perspective), which is:


"Are both parties emotionally mature enough to maintain a relationship grounded in reality."

It's clear that Aya loves Koto and vice versa. Typically, I'd get a shotgun and shoot Koto down without hesitation, but the premise of this story is raising an interesting question which is: "What if you lost someone you loved and they came right back still in love with you?" My outer perspective still trumps my inner perspective due to Aya being 14 years old with no education, but, if you are unable to move past your love and they disappeared and reappeared 7 years later... then do you still love them? Should you still love them if you still feel that way? That question is very much in the gray zone because there isn't a right answer imo. If Aya was spirited away at 21 and the entire situation was the same, this would probably just be another normal love triangle. The main issue is Aya being 14 that makes this VERY difficult on Aya.

That's exactly why l said it's not a bad deal for Aya under Koto's protection. Considering she has no one can rely on except these two who were her best friend in the past, and Koto is a far more better option than Erika.
Yeah. Koto does want to trap Aya in her little apartment due to her fear of losing Aya again. However, Aya is not dumb enough to accept every shit Koto asked for. She is clearly the most mature one out of the trio despite her age. She decides to keep moving forward even without anyone's support.
On the other hand, Erika is the real fucking monster in this story. While she's obviously the one who wish Aya away, l am not going to discuss this part which hasn't been confirmed yet. Erika is much worse as a person cause she literally uses Aya, a 14 yo kid like a tool trying to let Koto move on for her own selfish reason. She wants Koto reciprocates her feelings.
At least Koto has her trauma to explain the way she is. Erika is just a fucking selfish bitch only thinking of herself.

If l got a shotgun, l would fucking shoot Erika down without hesitation. That's how much l hate her guts.

 

[Aquarius0225]

100% feel like the author made a bad move when she wrote them in middle school instead of high school I’d prefer this set in senior year high school and Aya disappeared for 7 years. So, we would have 18 vs 25 rather than 14 vs 21, creating a more normal triangle.

Then, the topic about Aya being a minor will be less controversial so that we can highlight the main premise about long lost love in your inner POV.

Man, the controversial age gap is literally the juiciest part of this story.
It wouldn't be as interesting if this is a normal triangle.

 

[Shtoops]

So Erika either killed Aya or made a wish to make her disappear. That seems like the obvious conclusion from that flashback/deja vu sequence.

 

[EchoGirl]

So far, Erika does seem to be the most likely to be tied to AyaPrimes disappearance. She seems to often probe her for info, which could be her seeing how much this Aya knows. Erika seems to be the last person to see her, and she seems worried that she would recall something from that day. Granted, that could be just her being more like "logic brained", and it may be they had some big fight so she blames herself for Aya disappearing. Theres also the question of how could a 14yo girl make someone completely vanish.

we don't know what caused it but other than some kinda 'wish' or shrine god, it'd be hard to believe she would've done it on purpose versus subconsciously since hopefully some kinda supernatural deity wouldn't grant malicious wishes or so, but she suddenly shows up unaffected by time so she might've been brought back for a reason, but interpersonal/romantic relationship drama aside, it'd be interesting if there was more cases where something like this happens (versus ppl just keeping it under wraps or so, papers aside, but that would prolly be some overall scifi/dystopian horror concept if it wasn't a self contained story)