Skip and Loafer - Ch. 64 - Steady School Trip, Pt. 2

[Knighto]

That chapter ending, Mitsumi was damn skilful!

I think Yasaka is deeply broken. It's not about what others think of or imagine her to be, but also the way she leads them on to believe in certain things that are not there. Mitsumi's perception is right: Yasaka has her own way of thinking, her own world, that can't be interfere with or intervene. If it were me, I wouldn't establish or have a connection with Yasaka because we are too different and I don't have the energy or capacity to be with her. So, I got to give it to our girl, Mitsumi!

And for me, Shima deserves every bit that came after his ignorance to his own feelings and Mitsumi's ordeal; even if they're very small details that upset him 🤷‍♂️

hehehe I'm with you there about Shima, Mutsumi is giving her all to maintain it as platonic as possible, he shouldn't ask for more if he isn't ready to advance.

I don't think she's evil and does it just for pleasure, she also has a distorted view that other people need attention just like her, so they should be grateful for that. But she kind of plays with other people's feelings, that's why she says she wins or loses. I understand her feelings, but I understand other people's feelings too. You being hurt doesn't make the hurt you caused other people any less painful. In the end, everything is a choice, she is also aware that people hate what she does and she doesn't try to understand, instead she accuses people of not understanding her. And that's funny, a character without parental love acting like a spoiled child. So I feel sad for her, but I hate her too

Thanks for the update!

I think a lot more of you are giving Yasaka too much benefit of the doubt just because she's a teenager. It'd be one thing if she was just super friendly and that was being taken the wrong way but she is actively hurting other people. That's not just a "teenage mistake". But that's what makes her intersting. Her and Shima have deeply rooted character flaws that go beyond normal teenage school drama. One is active while the other is reactive and gives a new perspective on how things stick with you.

chapter really shown what Yasaka was doing is wrong, we already got some moments like that before, and the best part is that we got from her POV and Mutsumi's too, specially in this one with the funny faces.
Mutsumi being from the countryside weird enough has a lot of space to empathize with other and wanting to learn about other people even when her thinking can be narrow she wants to learn and help if she can (her family case helps a lot too on that point), the end of the chapter was super similar when she break up with Shima even if what happened wouldn't solve everything just giving them some warm and genuine care can help them by leaps and bounds as Yatsuka got tear eyed by Mutsumi wanting to help her without getting anything for her.

I hope you keep that energy with Shima because he's the same as Yasaka

problem is Shima learned what he did affected others and went super passive with his interactions with girls to mantain a status quo with the boys, so Yasaka choose the other route and pretty much doesn't have any friends. (it also helps that Shima at least has a childhood friend from his time as actor as he had some support when the thing with his mom blew up)

 

[SleepyWyrldReader]

Everyone sucks a little bit. We are all designed to deal with different ways that people suck. There is no way that people suck that makes them “unworthy” or “undeserving” of relationships, merely “unfitting”.

Mitsumi is fine with Yasaka. She sees her where she’s at and doesn’t mind relating with her anyway. Even though she’s the MC, she’s not doing it because she has imparted moral judgement on Yasaka, it’s because she sees them as friends and doesn’t get affected by Yasaka’s way of lashing out at people.

 

[fanerik]

it’s a drawing… be normal

☝🏼☝🏼

anyways, even tho this is fiction, they are literally kids. kids who we've seen mess up and get better, who get held accountable but learn to change and fix their mistakes. like yea she's a mess right now, but pretty sure the author means to take her character somewhere with this, and hopefully she can improve as a person. but still, there's no reason to be acting up bcos of a fictional teenager. this is a great manga, let's keep it cool

thank you to the scanlation team 🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️

 

[forgettingforgetting]

I’ve had one classmate in high school Ike Yasaka. Knows they’re pretty and used it to their advantage liberally. Had no dad growing up, and was the only one living in a boarding house.

She seems to have found lasting friends in uni. I hope she’s doing well in life.

Yasaka’s going to be fine too with more positive influences in her life.

 

[Dennis-aka-Denji]

literally

If ever there was a comment that could have been a reaction instead

 

[Huiiii]

Mitsumi is so relatable when she "overheard" the confessions
Mako and glasses guy are like siblings this chapter
The panel where the three were bamboozled together was cute
Shima my man, I'm sorry. Wait until your date yeah? 👍
Mitsumi an angel though, leaving yasaka to walk alone is dangerous haha

 

[LudvigV]

Not doing it for money, not fame, not even dick. Just doing it for the love of the game. She’s basically genderswapped Future. Have to respect it.

 

[CosmicWitch]

She may not have gotten like... called out in a huge shouting blowup or whatever, but in regards to Yasaka getting consequences for her behaviour... She already kinda has?
The way she acts and the ensuing fall out basically cuts off guys like that from wanting to interact with her ever again and she doesn't have close relationships with girls the way Mitsumi and co. do, probably because of similar situations like this chapter.
It's the irony of her manipulating people to get the 'love' she wants making her more isolated in the end.

Exactly, precisely.

in this chapter Yasaka notices how her friends' perceptions change about her in real time—Mitsumi calls her out to her face. Only Ujiie clings to the pretense that she didn't mean it, but she grows frustrated and FINALLY expresses her true ugly emotion; she goes along with the flow and allows others to fawn on her without actually sincerity.

Then she says something real! displays some actual emotion other than placid cuteness! you know the next chapter is her interacting with her friends who just watched her show her entire ass and it's going to be awkward as fuck, but so healing because they like her for herself. she can show emotion! she can be a little crabby! she can express frustration! she doesn't just have to smile at guys and get the attention she craves, because she can experience actual human connection from her friends!

 

[amyber]

The writing in this manga is so refreshing and well done, I'm blown away! Excited to see the developments of the characters, especially Mitsumi & Shima (poor guy lol she's just so cute)
Hopefully by having genuine, kind friends she can finally be able to have healthy relationships & dynamics with people.

 

[VariousThrenodies]

Genuinely surprised so many emotionally stunted people even read a manga like this

This is like the worst possible manga to be reading if you struggle with empathizing with realistically flawed characters

 

[cvpbutter]

Oh god an emotionally disregulated high schooler expressing their emotional needs in unhealthy ways… the horror 😱

but fr tho I can see why it might be frustrating why she hasn’t had much blowback for her behavior, but honestly that feels pretty real to me. As long as people are superficially pleasant and their wrongdoings are vague, it’s easy to get away with things. I’m excited to see her grow into a better person.

Likewise, and also.... I feel like she does experience consequences for her behavior, at least in the language and scale of this manga. We have instances in her introduction that clued us into to her being conspicuously alienated from her peers (specifically the girls).
Not having close, authentic, or fulfilling relationships MATTERS in this world. Not having a positive impact on other people MATTERS in this world. Not being at peace with yourself MATTERS in this world. People don't get struck by disaster as retribution for their moral failings here; that just isn't the narrative language that's been established, imo.
And if she was (or will be) faced with larger blowback, I'd bet it would be used to humanize/complicate her, rather than as an opportunity for catharsis at her getting her just deserts.

 

[Stikki]

This is like the worst possible manga to be reading if you struggle with empathizing with realistically flawed characters

I actually think this may be one of the best places for them to get this exposure. I'm guessing they are devoid from many of these types of personalities, nuances, realistic human traits or habits.

Even if they don't understand them now, I feel that the more often it comes up, the more some things will stick.
Then maybe when they are older or wiser or both, they might read this again or read/watch something similar and feel that empathy. Would be even more rewarding if they could re-read this with a fresh perspective and come out rewarded as we are now.

 

[toru_okada]

you can construct the emotional equivalent of the Great Wall of China, but Mitsumi always finds a way to your heart

 

[toru_okada]

The fact that she hasn't had any actual repercussions from her manipulative behaviour.

She hasn't? I mean we saw a direct consequence a few panels later, plus in her introduction we pretty much see she's alienated from her female peers (this current incident doesn't help out her rep one bit), and she literally has to manipulate men to get love and attention. idk about you, thats a pretty sad and fucked up way to live. I know she's a horrible person, but let's not pretend Mistumi's current friend group was perfect either. I mean look at Mika in the earlier chapters.

but we can agree to disagree.

 

[toru_okada]

OK, so Yasaka is kind of toxic.

However, Ujiie was projecting hard- just like he got told about in chapter 61. He got absolutely schooled here and he knows it. Lets hope this time he learns something this time.

hopefully brother/sister, ngl if there was a character i feel the closest to hating, its this dude, he gotta get his head out of his ass NOW

 

[toru_okada]

Guys, please remind me what made Mitsumi and Shima awkward. It's because they broke up, right?

Anyway, thanks a lot for the update!

yep they did, basically Shima ain't ready for some real Mistumi lovin LMAO

 

[lolfacesayshi]

She hasn't? I mean we saw a direct consequence a few panels later, plus in her introduction we pretty much see she's alienated from her female peers (this current incident doesn't help out her rep one bit), and she literally has to manipulate men to get love and attention. idk about you, thats a pretty sad and fucked up way to live. I know she's a horrible person, but let's not pretend Mistumi's current friend group was perfect either. I mean look at Mika in the earlier chapters.

but we can agree to disagree.

Eh, if she can ignore and "disagree" to their reaction, then it doesn't really count as repercussions.

I'm not saying that she NEEDS to be punished, but just surprised that it hasn't gotten her into any deep shit.

Because kids are cruel, Jack.

 

[toru_okada]

Eh, if she can ignore and "disagree" to their reaction, then it doesn't really count as repercussions.

I'm not saying that she NEEDS to be punished, but just surprised that it hasn't gotten her into any deep shit.

Because kids are cruel, Jack.

I think u and i have a different understanding of the whole thing, i dont know what u think should happen. So what if she can ignore or "disagree" about it, when the gang confronted her about about it, its clearly making her uncomfortable. She keeps it up shes gonna be miserable and she knows it, so the repercussion u want would happen down the line.

For me that unhealthy coping mechanism is the repercussion. There isnt a nail that has to be hammered here.

Plus, plenty of narcissists and manipulators get away with their shit irl, that deep shit isnt guaranteed to happen. thats the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

 

[spiffinn]

Thanks for the update!!!

 

[karmscharms]

we've all known a girl like yasaka. i think there's a complexity I feel, especially as a another girl. i hate her actions and i hate how she downplays everything. i hate girls like that. i hate how they make their lives revolve around the men around them. and i get tired of hearing about them and their troubled relationships with men.

and yet strangely, i understand them. i understand that they most likely have trauma about men that lead them to be chasing men their whole lives. their own low self esteems or mental health, that leads them to worse and worse relationships. and i understand that it's a harsh cycle that seems to never stop because they're SO extremely EASY to fall into. fast, quick, inauthentic, and painful relationships.

to me, it's hard to fully encompase how I truly feel. because a part of me despises these girls, but another part understands them, but another part of me also feels frustration about how they choose to live their lives. like i understand why you're like that, but I also hate that you keep acting like that and acting like it's not your fault. but again, another part of me understands that she puts herself into these situations to guard herself from the world. and it's what she thinks she has to do to stay on top. i still hate it and i think it's incredibly shitty.

ughhh it's so hard because I want to empathize but I hate girls like this so much. and i just hate people like this, men women and anyone in between. i hate when they play with other's honest feelings and act like they did nothing wrong. even more, making people embarassed of having feelings. i am not nonchalant !!! and people shouldn't be ashamed of feeling feelings. but a part of me wishes to keep sympathizing and empathizing...