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Tearmoon Teikoku Monogatari ~Dantoudai kara Hajimaru, Hime no Tensei Gyakuten Story~ - Vol. 2 Ch. 9
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I NEED spoilers does shitty prince Sion face any consequences for his bloodthirsty idiocy in the name of justice?!
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@RamenRider unfortunately, that's not how it worked. Cut off from information is different from being selfish brat and ignorant to the world around. Do you think that she was cut off? Has no real power? Show me the proof.
The fact that she saved Ludwig from being transferred to countryside in her second life is the proof that she has power.
Being scapegoat? Really? You're that naive? Being the top of the country has its own perks, but it also comes with heavy responsibility. Yes, the trio were biased, but then show me that Mia is not innocent!!
All that i can see so far is that Mia was ignorant, thus she didn't care, thus the imperial nobles continued to be as they were. Because the one who could stop them didn't do anything (and I am talking about when Mia was still at school in her first life, and it became the first mark of her own doom). Maybe her parents, the emperor and empress too were ignorant. They didn't care of how much money spent for their comfort, while people were suffering. They didn't act while they have the power to do so. By they, I mean the royal families.
It's not UK constitutional monarchy system. Tearmoon royal families has power and influence to change things but instead, in Mia's first life, they chose to do nothing.
They're are not like you and me. They're the head of state and nation, they have responsibilities. Or am I just talking to a kid who doesn't even know what responsibility is?
Even when a leader does a right thing, there will always be people who disagree, even more so when a leader commit crime or do nothing while they have power to do right.
The fact that she saved Ludwig from being transferred to countryside in her second life is the proof that she has power.
Being scapegoat? Really? You're that naive? Being the top of the country has its own perks, but it also comes with heavy responsibility. Yes, the trio were biased, but then show me that Mia is not innocent!!
All that i can see so far is that Mia was ignorant, thus she didn't care, thus the imperial nobles continued to be as they were. Because the one who could stop them didn't do anything (and I am talking about when Mia was still at school in her first life, and it became the first mark of her own doom). Maybe her parents, the emperor and empress too were ignorant. They didn't care of how much money spent for their comfort, while people were suffering. They didn't act while they have the power to do so. By they, I mean the royal families.
It's not UK constitutional monarchy system. Tearmoon royal families has power and influence to change things but instead, in Mia's first life, they chose to do nothing.
They're are not like you and me. They're the head of state and nation, they have responsibilities. Or am I just talking to a kid who doesn't even know what responsibility is?
Even when a leader does a right thing, there will always be people who disagree, even more so when a leader commit crime or do nothing while they have power to do right.
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Emeralda, daughter of Greenmoon is a good friend of Mia. Since their family run away when the revolution happen, Emeralda regretted the situation because she cant fulfil her promise to have tea party with Mia and it can be interpreted that she actually want to help Mia in preventing the famine/revolution, but her dad already took her away to another nation.
As for Ruby, the daughter of Redmoon, the reason why her family didnt want to help Mia in the revolution is related to the incident at the tribe, since Ruby fell in love with the Burly Soldier that got killed in the incident, and thx to that she got a grudge with Mia. But after Mia got killed, their family got rekt-ed and she killed herself because she feel empty after Mia died and she feel she doesnt have any reason to fight the revolution.
Dunno bout the Bluemoon family, but as for Yellowmoon family... guess I'll stop here
As for Ruby, the daughter of Redmoon, the reason why her family didnt want to help Mia in the revolution is related to the incident at the tribe, since Ruby fell in love with the Burly Soldier that got killed in the incident, and thx to that she got a grudge with Mia. But after Mia got killed, their family got rekt-ed and she killed herself because she feel empty after Mia died and she feel she doesnt have any reason to fight the revolution.
Dunno bout the Bluemoon family, but as for Yellowmoon family... guess I'll stop here
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not in the previous timeline tho, but in the novel/mango timeline he got humbled by Mia, thus he already changed into better person
if you really want situation where he got problem, perhaps the timeline where Rafina become war-monger can help you since in that timeline his kingdom got civil war-ed d and then he died
if you really want situation where he got problem, perhaps the timeline where Rafina become war-monger can help you since in that timeline his kingdom got civil war-ed d and then he died
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Thank you! Hearing of comeuppance for that rotten little piece of shit does my heart good. Especially as it sounds as if it was poetic justice. Characters like him drive me fucking crazy with rage. Like I dunno how everyone doesn't have at least one hole in a wall in their homes over fuckers like that. Real person or fictional the rage is overwhelming. WEW... Thanks again for that spoiler.
Thank you! Hearing of comeuppance for that rotten little piece of shit does my heart good. Especially as it sounds as if it was poetic justice. Characters like him drive me fucking crazy with rage. Like I dunno how everyone doesn't have at least one hole in a wall in their homes over fuckers like that. Real person or fictional the rage is overwhelming. WEW... Thanks again for that spoiler.
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The maid got enough spending money for an evening to not only buy what she thought she needed, but still had enough for a first-rate ballgown?
Seems like the princess still doesn't really know the value of money (but lucky mistake it was). Clearly explains why the maid thought "this must be 'special' money" (and not just 'coffee and a souvenir' that was the princess' thought).
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Now that you mention it - yea, it's a very nice touch. Much feelgood fun. XD
Seems like the princess still doesn't really know the value of money (but lucky mistake it was). Clearly explains why the maid thought "this must be 'special' money" (and not just 'coffee and a souvenir' that was the princess' thought).
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Now that you mention it - yea, it's a very nice touch. Much feelgood fun. XD
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If you want to know everything, just buy the novel!
The author already find an official translator to do the job and the novel is really fun to read.
Please support the author, I can't wait for Volume 3...
The author already find an official translator to do the job and the novel is really fun to read.
Please support the author, I can't wait for Volume 3...
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@Retarded_Wizard Oh god, I'm really gonna have to now don't I? I'm so in love with this dumb story that I can't handle the wait anymore!
@elhessan You seem to keep forgetting that Mia is a frigging 12 years old kid. And a princess of top of that. People only listen to her because they are afraid of her father. In other words, she only has influence as long as her father allows it. If the emperor suddenly prohibited Mia from involving herself in politics and to just "be a good princess and keep quiet until you get married", then she would be screwed over.
A 12 years old is not going to understand the economical, social and politic situation of an entire empire. She isn't going to propose and carry over complex and revolutionary measures to reform a country. She isn't going to start investigations about the state's situation and purge the corrupt nobles. Especially if they have never recieved proper education and have always lived being spoiled.
You also talk about setting example as if that would just make everyone else to be better, even if they come from corrupted noble families. And again, Mia is 12 years old and she just arrived to the academy. Do you expect her to have an iron grip control over all of the empire noble students? Is it going to be her responsability every time that someone does something bad without her knowledge? Or maybe she should have established an intelligence network so nothing happens without her knowledge or consent?
And it isn't even as she is the one in charge in there. That place is an academy where numerous and high-ranking nobles of several countries assist to. Don't they have they own security corps? Why in the hell would "the leader of the revolution" go there just with her maid without notifying anyone? What did she think was going to happen? Even if she is the victim, she still holds some responsibility
A 12 years old is not going to understand the economical, social and politic situation of an entire empire. She isn't going to propose and carry over complex and revolutionary measures to reform a country. She isn't going to start investigations about the state's situation and purge the corrupt nobles. Especially if they have never recieved proper education and have always lived being spoiled.
You also talk about setting example as if that would just make everyone else to be better, even if they come from corrupted noble families. And again, Mia is 12 years old and she just arrived to the academy. Do you expect her to have an iron grip control over all of the empire noble students? Is it going to be her responsability every time that someone does something bad without her knowledge? Or maybe she should have established an intelligence network so nothing happens without her knowledge or consent?
And it isn't even as she is the one in charge in there. That place is an academy where numerous and high-ranking nobles of several countries assist to. Don't they have they own security corps? Why in the hell would "the leader of the revolution" go there just with her maid without notifying anyone? What did she think was going to happen? Even if she is the victim, she still holds some responsibility
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One support arguement to what you said. elhessan said that tearmoon should have had the responsibility to fix the problem but I say to that is, what problem.
If you say corrupt nobility and their rampant suppression is a problem I would say yes it is a problem. But to the noble, it is only a problem if they are taught that it is the problem.
From what I have seen throughout the manga, nobody ever tried to teach tearmoon and educate her to see that and guess what, she isn't a fucking genius. How was she supposed to know that the nobility could be overthrown and the new regime would use her as the scapegoat to calm the masses.
One support arguement to what you said. elhessan said that tearmoon should have had the responsibility to fix the problem but I say to that is, what problem.
If you say corrupt nobility and their rampant suppression is a problem I would say yes it is a problem. But to the noble, it is only a problem if they are taught that it is the problem.
From what I have seen throughout the manga, nobody ever tried to teach tearmoon and educate her to see that and guess what, she isn't a fucking genius. How was she supposed to know that the nobility could be overthrown and the new regime would use her as the scapegoat to calm the masses.
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@Doramas do you guys even read? At what age was she executed? And why?
Read again!!
She was 12 years old selfish ignorant brat. Like was told in the latest chapter, the first step of her tragic ending began when she did nothing about the incident. Did you guys read or just looking at the pictures?
So, yeah.. before talking about political BS, Mia was a selfish and ignorant brat who, well, did not care about anything as long as she got what her wanted. This proves @RamenRider wrong. She had power over other noble brats, but, guess what? She didn't care, she did nothing. And this also applies to your view. It was precisely because she did nothing, so that the noble brats thought that they can do anything to country bumpkin noble or even to the citizens. In the end, this led to revolution.
That's her responsibility, whether she likes it or not. Is it too much for a 12 years old imperial princess? No. If she didn't learn anything before entering the academy, at least she could learn from the trio. Alas, she was so ignorant and foolish. She thought that it was beneath her. She was so indifferent and cared only for herself.
Read again!!
She was 12 years old selfish ignorant brat. Like was told in the latest chapter, the first step of her tragic ending began when she did nothing about the incident. Did you guys read or just looking at the pictures?
So, yeah.. before talking about political BS, Mia was a selfish and ignorant brat who, well, did not care about anything as long as she got what her wanted. This proves @RamenRider wrong. She had power over other noble brats, but, guess what? She didn't care, she did nothing. And this also applies to your view. It was precisely because she did nothing, so that the noble brats thought that they can do anything to country bumpkin noble or even to the citizens. In the end, this led to revolution.
That's her responsibility, whether she likes it or not. Is it too much for a 12 years old imperial princess? No. If she didn't learn anything before entering the academy, at least she could learn from the trio. Alas, she was so ignorant and foolish. She thought that it was beneath her. She was so indifferent and cared only for herself.
@elhessan I'm not saying that Mia was innocent. Not at all. She could have done a lot to improve the situation in the original timeline (as she is doing now). Even if it was just being a better person.
However, it's still no the same to not care than to be the mastermind. What I'm reading is that those three arbitrarily pinned the authory of the kidnapping to Mia, based in really circumstancial evidence (no one else can have a handkerchief with that symbol?), simply because they did not like her attitude.
They, specially Shion, thought that Mia was so beneath them and their just ideals as much as Mia thought that the country noble girl was beneath her.
However, it's still no the same to not care than to be the mastermind. What I'm reading is that those three arbitrarily pinned the authory of the kidnapping to Mia, based in really circumstancial evidence (no one else can have a handkerchief with that symbol?), simply because they did not like her attitude.
They, specially Shion, thought that Mia was so beneath them and their just ideals as much as Mia thought that the country noble girl was beneath her.
The three so called pillars are actually quiet close minded huh. Just because they don't like Mia's apathy, they decided to put the blame into her. Granted, Mia was practically calling for the guillotine with her attitude, but still. Not so wise for the "perfect" prince, "heroine" noble, and the "saint" princess there, ain't cha?
I should also add that Mia was executed because she was a scapegoat. They needed someone who people could hate and scream at.
In her previous life, Mia never had a position of responsibility nor took any decisions about the politics of the country. She just lived in her own little world enjoying whatever whim she could think of. Which, as I said before, would not affect the economy of a giant empire.
You can't blame the daughter of a CEO if the company turn out to be corrupt, no matter how much you call her a princess.
In any case, I thin that years of books, manga, TV series and movies have given us a distorted view of what a princess was capable of doing in reality. In both western and eastern cultures, princesses only existed to be married off and have children. If they started enterprises on their own or simply talked out of turn, well, let's say that it would not end well for them.
My point being, that what Mia is actually capable of doing is quite limitated. She can not enact new laws, she can not modify budgets nor the taxcode, and she can not just banish corrupted noble families (specially if they have allies or backing). And if her family was also corrupted, which is likely, they could silence her as soon as she starts talking againts them and their politics.
In her previous life, Mia never had a position of responsibility nor took any decisions about the politics of the country. She just lived in her own little world enjoying whatever whim she could think of. Which, as I said before, would not affect the economy of a giant empire.
You can't blame the daughter of a CEO if the company turn out to be corrupt, no matter how much you call her a princess.
In any case, I thin that years of books, manga, TV series and movies have given us a distorted view of what a princess was capable of doing in reality. In both western and eastern cultures, princesses only existed to be married off and have children. If they started enterprises on their own or simply talked out of turn, well, let's say that it would not end well for them.
My point being, that what Mia is actually capable of doing is quite limitated. She can not enact new laws, she can not modify budgets nor the taxcode, and she can not just banish corrupted noble families (specially if they have allies or backing). And if her family was also corrupted, which is likely, they could silence her as soon as she starts talking againts them and their politics.
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There are a lot of long paragraphs were written under my comment but I don't care and all I say is TLMAO instead of LMAO in the honor of the Tearoom Empire
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I would like the empire to fall, the corupt nobles being put down, and in the meanwhile, the princess being shelter by the good nobles and main cast (these young people XD). She, as a princess, doesn't have the power to change and entire empire. But surely, she can change how the society sees her.
I wish for the empire to have a serious problem, but I hope for the royal family to live and reign throught Princess Mia.
I wish for the empire to have a serious problem, but I hope for the royal family to live and reign throught Princess Mia.
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Man, screw these 3 in the past life for ganging up on Mia for such a stupid reason. They didn't even have proof she ordered the hit job on the rando girl and they still went after her? Gaaaaaaah! Some noble girl being a spoiled brat is no bloody reason to execute her!
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