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No, they'd still be anomalous, it just wouldn't be voter fraud necessarily if there's a delay in counting, but that still doesn't necessarily exclude the possibility of fraud. (Anamlous just means it's not what we would expect to see from the pattern of data we have)
I'd also be curious if that law will be challenged or not about the ballots that return after election day, given that definitely seems open to abuse if nothing else. That's probably going to be part of the Supreme Court case I'd bet.
Not quite sure what you're asking on that last one there, but I'm tired so I may just be dumb
As for the rest of it:
Here's the thing about human psychology: it doesn't matter if you report anonymously. If you feel like you could be in danger reporting your beliefs, or that there's the possibility of danger if you publicity express your opinion to others that you may ruin any connection you have. It's a natural reaction as people want to avoid conflict and so even in privacy they may keep to themselves or not report their beliefs honestly because they may think it reflects badly on them. Considering that Trump has been demonized in the media, it's no wonder some people may not report their beliefs honestly about their support for him or not. This is the issue with self-reporting, because you will get answers from people about what they think makes them look good, regardless of whether it does or not.
He didn't clear out the square for just because of a seminar. The protesters actively lit a fire in St John's Episcopal Church on May 31st, which is a historical site and is very close to the White House. They told the protesters to disband because they were no longer peacefully protesting. Trump only had the photoshot a day or so after all of this. He did not order the officers nor did he command them. It
If you set fires to historical landmarks and refuse to disband when the National Guard tell you to after they warn you that they are required to use force, then you only have yourself to blame.
Additionally, I think what Trump's doing is probably more akin to the hyperbole well-known with New Yorkers mixed with a bit of trying to make it seem like the end is just around the corner, which is typically what politicans will do in hard times or when there's bad things happening. It's about group psychology and making people believe there's hope so they don't wallow in despair. It's also a bit of hindsight bias, because before the lockdown most people thought it was overblown, and to be frank, it might still be depending on how different countries like Seweden, who didn't have lockdowns, are affected. Epidemology isn't a perfect predictor of the future, really, and is always liable to change with new information, as all good science is, however, that makes it difficult to legislate for given how slow the machine of government is.
You can't really compare COVID with a very low fatality rate and high recovery rate to the Vietnam War because one is a directly controllable response by which the war directly scarred a generation and traumatized America. It was lost in their living rooms, so to say, because the brutality and ruthlessness of the atrocities and terror commited was so disproportion to the heretofore post-WWII jingoism of the Americans, hence the large cultural impact, disdain towards foreign wars, and high voter turn out.
You can pull a country out of war a lot easier than you can pull a country of a disease, because disease isn't something humans can really control, as much as they might like to. See my comments about Albert Camus for more on that, but yeah, I don't think COVID is going to be something most people consider on parr with one of the most traumatizing wars in human history. If we compare raw numbers, we can say cancer and the common cold definitely killed more people in totality, but it's not something that's constantly in human psychology because it's not in their faces, and whereas COVID is at the moment, I doubt that most people think we can ever really control it.
No, I did not make the spreadsheet. It's been going around on social media, though different parts of the country consider different places "bellwether" counties. Some consider the entire state of Ohio a "bellwether." The idea is that they're a microcosm of the larger forces of the nation at large. Not that it helps much, if anything, the rate would be lower if Wikipedia is anything to go off of.
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I'd also be curious if that law will be challenged or not about the ballots that return after election day, given that definitely seems open to abuse if nothing else. That's probably going to be part of the Supreme Court case I'd bet.
Not quite sure what you're asking on that last one there, but I'm tired so I may just be dumb
As for the rest of it:
Here's the thing about human psychology: it doesn't matter if you report anonymously. If you feel like you could be in danger reporting your beliefs, or that there's the possibility of danger if you publicity express your opinion to others that you may ruin any connection you have. It's a natural reaction as people want to avoid conflict and so even in privacy they may keep to themselves or not report their beliefs honestly because they may think it reflects badly on them. Considering that Trump has been demonized in the media, it's no wonder some people may not report their beliefs honestly about their support for him or not. This is the issue with self-reporting, because you will get answers from people about what they think makes them look good, regardless of whether it does or not.
He didn't clear out the square for just because of a seminar. The protesters actively lit a fire in St John's Episcopal Church on May 31st, which is a historical site and is very close to the White House. They told the protesters to disband because they were no longer peacefully protesting. Trump only had the photoshot a day or so after all of this. He did not order the officers nor did he command them. It
If you set fires to historical landmarks and refuse to disband when the National Guard tell you to after they warn you that they are required to use force, then you only have yourself to blame.
Additionally, I think what Trump's doing is probably more akin to the hyperbole well-known with New Yorkers mixed with a bit of trying to make it seem like the end is just around the corner, which is typically what politicans will do in hard times or when there's bad things happening. It's about group psychology and making people believe there's hope so they don't wallow in despair. It's also a bit of hindsight bias, because before the lockdown most people thought it was overblown, and to be frank, it might still be depending on how different countries like Seweden, who didn't have lockdowns, are affected. Epidemology isn't a perfect predictor of the future, really, and is always liable to change with new information, as all good science is, however, that makes it difficult to legislate for given how slow the machine of government is.
You can't really compare COVID with a very low fatality rate and high recovery rate to the Vietnam War because one is a directly controllable response by which the war directly scarred a generation and traumatized America. It was lost in their living rooms, so to say, because the brutality and ruthlessness of the atrocities and terror commited was so disproportion to the heretofore post-WWII jingoism of the Americans, hence the large cultural impact, disdain towards foreign wars, and high voter turn out.
You can pull a country out of war a lot easier than you can pull a country of a disease, because disease isn't something humans can really control, as much as they might like to. See my comments about Albert Camus for more on that, but yeah, I don't think COVID is going to be something most people consider on parr with one of the most traumatizing wars in human history. If we compare raw numbers, we can say cancer and the common cold definitely killed more people in totality, but it's not something that's constantly in human psychology because it's not in their faces, and whereas COVID is at the moment, I doubt that most people think we can ever really control it.
No, I did not make the spreadsheet. It's been going around on social media, though different parts of the country consider different places "bellwether" counties. Some consider the entire state of Ohio a "bellwether." The idea is that they're a microcosm of the larger forces of the nation at large. Not that it helps much, if anything, the rate would be lower if Wikipedia is anything to go off of.
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