Warui ga Watashi wa Yuri ja nai - Vol. 5 Ch. 28 - Ookado Tsubasa (3)

[hiidenkiuas]

thank you for bringing sanity back to this comment section

You know you can call me a woke moralist or whatever but i think if you’re defending pedophilia and rape you aren’t on the ”sane” side

 

[mgRdr]

But maybe you should be fully cognizant of the term "pedophile"

Ephebophile, w/e. The point is that she did something morally-reprehensibly to the extent that there are laws that would've landed her in jail for that.

I see someone genuinely trying to help a troubled student (albeit via questionable means)

You say that she genuinely tried to help a student, but then why did she have to chose such a questinable approach, when she, as an adult, supposedly has had mental capacities to help her in a more role-appropriate manner? I am not saying she did so out of inappropriate feelings towards a minor, but then there's no other motive shown as to why she did that.

while you see an irredeemable person.

I guess that's the problem, I don't see her as anything. All we were shown about her is that she's pretty and she has shlicked off a student, which is, without knowing her motivations, is a completely random action. So far, she's a non-character, and the only way to form an opinion about her is to look at her actions through lens of 3D-world

 

[NightmareWeeb]

You know you can call me a woke moralist or whatever but i think if you’re defending pedophilia and rape you aren’t on the ”sane” side

So, by your own logic, you are here consuming child pornography and rape media, gotcha. That’s a totally reasonable take and makes 100% sense, Mr. Sane Person.

Or maybe what happens in the manga doesn’t matter at all, just a guess.

 

[silverpetricof]

You say that she genuinely tried to help a student, but then why did she have to chose such a questinable approach, when she, as an adult, supposedly has had mental capacities to help her in a more role-appropriate manner? I am not saying she did so out of inappropriate feelings towards a minor, but then there's no other motive shown as to why she did that.

I don't see much of a point in trying to apply moral standards in this manga that pretty much disregards them at almost every opportunity. You can ask the same thing about a lot of the other characters: why don't they do anything sensible or "role-appropriate"? The question is rhetorical because the answer is obvious: that be boring. Or, alternatively, it doesn't align with Mochi's particular style.

I guess that's the problem, I don't see her as anything. All we were shown about her is that she's pretty and she has shlicked off a student, which is, without knowing her motivations, is a completely random action. So far, she's a non-character, and the only way to form an opinion about her is to look at her actions through lens of 3D-world

I...disagree. There's various ways one's perspective on a character can form. Even with characters like Yamamura who was introduced in this very chapter.

 

[wifecity]

As one of the people who worked on this, seeing how many comments this is getting, I feel like I should give my perspective on it (especially since spacecadette doesn't want to touch this thread with a ten foot pole).

Let me just say: I think this chapter sucks. Both in content and the obviously gross shit at the end. I couldn't even hold my nose long enough to help with translation because it upset me for both personal and general reasons. Spacecadette translated it because she loves this series and doesn't want one awful chapter to stop us from continuing to translate it. She also made it vastly more tolerable than it was in Japanese. She deserves an award for her dedication, because this one was a real slog for her.

If I could tag it for abuse like on Dynasty Scans, I would. In lieu of that, my deepest desire is for everyone to ignore this chapter and move on. Here's to hoping there's more cute shit in the chapter that comes out tomorrow, and not more of... this. See you then!

 

[mgRdr]

I don't see much of a point in trying to apply moral standards

But then "genuinely trying to help" stops applying as well

You can ask the same thing about a lot of the other characters

I don't need to, their motivations and reasonings are made clear. Toudou for example is shown to be an asshole from the get go, I do not need to question why she drugs up her classmates

I...disagree. There's various ways one's perspective on a character can form.

Sure, but whatever they are and with what little we were shown, they are speculations, be it trying to understand her using the real world as an example, or extrapolating manga meta-knowledge to guess what was the author's intent

 

[mgRdr]

Oh, by the way, the same plot development done better:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/fd2bcf26-b756-483b-94f8-983e2df060b7/1

 

[silverpetricof]

But then "genuinely trying to help" stops applying as well

What do you mean? It does still apply. Yamamura is the school's nurse. She's doing her job less out of any kind of moral standard and more out of simple contractual obligation.

I don't need to, their motivations and reasonings are made clear. Toudou for example is shown to be an asshole from the get go, I do not need to question why she drugs up her classmates

I did say characters. Plural. You bring up Toudou but she's the FemC. Of course she'd be more flesh out than the others that there's not a real need question a lot of her intentions. The others, arguably, not so much, and to varying degrees since screentime between them is varied

Sure, but whatever they are and with what little we were shown, they are speculations, be it trying to understand her using the real world as an example, or extrapolating manga meta-knowledge to guess what was the author's intent

It you ask me I honestly don't think it's as deep as you seem to think it is. Yamamura is just a pretty (by Ookado's standards) and eccentric nurse whose actions may betray her well-meaning. That's it. And probably all we'll get if she turns out to be a one-off character.

 

[YamiryuuZero]

That should happen more often

 

[mgRdr]

It does still apply.

Arguably it loses the "genuine" part if it is only about adhering to the contract. And that is one hell of a way one could possibly go about fulfilling their contractual obligations.

You bring up Toudou

You were the one to bring her up first, and she is arguably one of the most reprehensible characters in the manga so is kinda relevant to what we're discussing. Do you question the others' intentions, and if so, whom?

That's it. And probably all we'll get if she turns out to be a one-off character.

And, in my opinion, that would be the worst resolution. It is a WTF moment, and abandoning it without any further exploration would leave the viewers to their own speculations, which are predominantly negative

 

[silverpetricof]

Arguably it loses the "genuine" part if it is only about adhering to the contract. And that is one hell of a way one could possibly go about fulfilling their contractual obligations.

Regardless you know what I mean. She's the nurse so it's her job to administer aid to any injured students. She just so happened to offer some very direct help to a student who wanted some guidance. We all understand how inappropriate and extra she was being. No one is saying otherwise.

You were the one to bring her up first, and she is arguably one of the most reprehensible characters in the manga so is kinda relevant to what we're discussing. Do you question the others' intentions, and if so, whom?

Ok...me bring her up first has nothing to do with anything. I'm not even saying or implying she is irrelevant to the discussion (because she is relevant), so I don't know where you got that notion from.

As for other characters take Banryuu for instance. I personally don't care, but one could wonder why does she keep a woman (R in this case) literally in a collar and parade her as her personal pet? Because she's rich? Because she can? Because R is into it? (which I believe it's stated she is, but that doesn't answer why Banryuu would entertain her fetish).

And, in my opinion, that would be the worst resolution. It is a WTF moment, and abandoning it without any further exploration would leave the viewers to their own speculations, which are predominantly negative

So? Let people speculate then. Their theories, positive or negative, don't matter. I'm only operating off what is shown and said in the chapter itself and I stand by my evaluation of Yamamura: a questionable nurse who nonetheless wants to help her students in any way she can. If she returns and this gets readressed, then great. My evaluation may even change. But this isn't worth exploring any further; there are other characters, especially those with unexplored or unresolved plot points, who should take priority.

 

[meemee55255]

this manga is such a banger, that this was the WORST chapter by far.. hated every panel that teacher was on

 

[Wi110Wisp]

Wow, some people are mad...
...like ya'll aren't reading the manga that shows middle to high school girls having sex.

 

[ErzaYuriQueen]

I'd like to support Mochi sensei more regularly too, but my coin worths 5x less... damn Dollar dominance! Please come, multipolarism with BRICS!

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[shittycoolusername69]

I just hope Tsubasa learns about all the other lesbians at school sooner than later

 

[Neutraluser22]

Thank you Black Rose! Also, Happy Birthday!!! Sincerely appreciate all your hard work!!

 

[reu]

Im tempted to quote a certain character from South Park but my consciousness is telling me that i shouldnt do it...

wtf, bro now I'm curious

 

[reu]

28 chapters of the MC drugging people into having sex with her and only now does the TLer get unconfortable, lmao

 

[pandapants]

hi im a weirdo who likes internet discourse
anyways im not a fan of this chapter bc (imo) it started out as a pretty simple and kinda realistic queer discovery type chapter with tsubasa being a home of sexual and her conversation with the nurse started out as a nice queer kid opening up to an adult person
and when the nurse goes and does that shit it feels gross bc its like a realistic situation in which a queer kid gets taken advantage of by an adult person
on the other hand toudou and her love potion drug shit (while obviously a shitty thing) isnt like plausible or anything so yeah thats my 2 cents
anyways happy birthday translator u are based

 

[Reaperbones]

This feels so out of place that it's kind of worrying. Like maybe the author was just testing to see how people liked it, but it also feels like a risky move. Well hopefully that's not a bad sign for the manga. Toudou still hasn't figured out that it's possible for people to love her without drugs being involved...Okay that sounded worse than I expected.