Toukyou KINOKO ~Sekai Ranking 1-i no Komyu-ryoku Saijaku JK~ - Ch. 13 - Ritual

[yuumeimeimeimei]

This is quite a betrayal of expectations no? I was expecting an action manga when I first read it up, not this stretched out low level comedy, not my type of tea, but at the same time, I'm already at the thick of it, it would have been very rational to just drop this and forget about it then move on. But everybody knows, our brains are irrational and it cannot do such a thing easily, I'm putting this on freeze for now, cause even now I'm still hoping for things to change, even if it's not how the story goes. 🧊🧊🧊

 

[T-Rei]

Having the protagonist be tied up doing nothing for 5/13 chapters (so far) is certainly a choice...

 

[Arkos]

It's funny how the Japanese comments I'm seeing are mostly positive, while people here are unreasonably negative.

This type of story doesn't quite work for foreign audiences, apparently.

I think its primarily the tone is clashing. Hey a cult has summoned a world distaster fully intended to kill everyone and the MC is still being a clueless idiot somehow failing to see and hear the cult wanting to kill her and everyone. Its not being executed well and there is a certain line where people get annoyed the MC is now pretty much endangering people's lives. Moreover there is a limit for people on dense protaganists and especially dependent on the situations.

 

[delta_angelfire]

oops, you monologued a bit too much there mr bad guy...

 

[Shygig]

Lemme help you, and surely many other future commenters who are going to keep complaining about this story.

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We get it. This story isn't for you. Is torturing yourself like this your idea of fun? Drop it and move on.

Yeah dw man, I'm not gonna hesitate now. Have fun with slopfest.

If people find this type of stupidity entertaining, good on them. However comments are there to leave reactions brochacho, and some people indeed do find pleasure on coming back and shitting on something they hate, believe it or not.

As I said before if she didn't smarten up I would drop it, and she didn't so I'm dropping it. Simple. I might come back later to see how ts is doing but I'm not expecting much from the pace shown till now.

I think most people, including me, are pissed because they're seeing potential being squandered in favor of pure smoothbrainness. Idk if it's the setting or the mood of the story, but if you're telling me going through 4 or 5 chapters or pure idiocy being labelled as 'comedy' in a world where we're repeatedly being told that humanity is on the verge of extinction is 'fun', then ykw, good on you.

But I'm feeling a lot of whiplash over here from how I'm supposed to feel. On one side you got the 'goofy' MC just being purely fucking stupid for the 'comedic factor' and on the other you got her friends and humanity just straight up terrified out of their wits, and sometimes in literally the same panel, not on different pages.

I can get doing it for a chapter but it's been going on for MULTIPLE CHAPTERS. More than that, I think you'd have to maintain some kind of balance between comedy and apocalypse in this type of setting, but if you're saying some people are liking it then maybe I'm wrong and that balance is being kept at a good level, but considering the feedback on the recent chapters, I'd like to think I'm right and that this is just pure ass.

The misunderstandings and ignorance of the MC at the start was funny, don't get me wrong, but I thought that moment was also meant for her to get her bearings in the civilized world, not goof around. But as I said, if you somehow find this type of slowpaced 'comedy' to your liking, good on you. I'm personally not seeing how the 'repeatedly being told EXPLICITELY "hey, I'm a bad guy and also you're the strongest" and still not understanding that she's not in a fucking parttime job' scenario is fun after 4 panels, but as I said, good on you and I hope you got good laughs out of it.

People are pissed because they're seeing something with potential being absolutely shit on, don't be surprised if people give their reactions.

 

[Shmeep]

"This level of idiocy tests my patience to a degree that is decidedly not comedy."
Lol, people are crazy. I liked the joke of a final boss ascending to godhood while the country panics playing second fiddle to the impact of Kinoko not actually getting a job. This series is fun so far

 

[UdenEmpati]

Still not certain as to why Ippe was allowed to just go off and leave the Ministry when he was strong enough to ...I would assume warrant some amount of attention, and was someone they had to apparently coerce into working for them because of a criminal past.

Usoyama not wanting to go after him, after they had intelligence indicating he was behind both a dangerous cult and multiple disappearances, "because he was a comrade"....when he was a criminal who was, again, pardoned and then soft-threatened into staying with the Ministry, just feels like gross negligence on the part of someone who's now partially responsible for the blood spilled and lives lost by refusing to move on said reports.

Ippe might be #11 and would not have been susceptible to the tracking devices Usoyama used on his own niece, but they still got reports that he was potentially involved in dangerous cult activity - so he wasn't completely eluding the Ministry, even if it wasn't confirmed.

Not sure now much faith I'd have in a government entity that seems that incompetent in the face of overwhelmingly powerful individuals that they both can't control but also seemingly don't respect enough to treat well.
And if it gives birth to cults like Grimoire, made of ex-Gardners that hate the Ministry so much that they'd try and destroy the world, then it doesn't seem like something that should be preserved in the state that it is.

But we've gotten relatively little on that front, and the ranking system as it coincides to actual power still seems a touch confusing (#70's the director of the Ministry division overseeing Gardners, and #10 is more both more powerful than Ippe, but also a non-combat type?) - and I'd love to learn more about how all that works, but the short-form chapters don't invite a whole lot of actual description outside of snippets of exposition sprinkled in-between whatever incident is currently transpiring.
It would probably require walls of text to actually give the adequate attention needed, and that carries its own pacing issues, but.

It's a shame the chapters are less than 25 pages, just because it does disrupt the amount of narrative info that can be relayed each installment. Yes, it's a necessary balancing act with the output potential of the art and the writing, and probably flows much better if read all in one sitting upon completion, but we're also just...not getting a whole lot, with all of the focus being on the central gimmick that is the comedy derived from the juxtaposition of the protagonist's strength against her crippling idiocy and anxiety.

Issues with the portrayal of the protagonist aside, I would love to know more about the world and how it's arrived at the state it has, and whether the Ministry is as bad as Grimoire claims it is or if it's all distortions and half-truths. Hopefully it does get fleshed out more before too long, depending on where this current arc goes.

And hopefully Section Chief Usoyama does his job better going forward and doesn't let sentimentality over "can't suspect comrades" lead him to turning a blind eye while people die, and hopefully his niece doesn't repeat the same mistake in keeping so much hidden from Kinoko after this arc concludes. Whether or not those things are addressed and things are changed on their respective ends would, I think, significantly impact the overall reception of this series after this drawn-out scene over the last 7 chapters.

 

[banjomarx]

It's funny how the Japanese comments I'm seeing are mostly positive, while people here are unreasonably negative.

This type of story doesn't quite work for foreign audiences, apparently.

Its not that people dislike the story, we've just been stuck on namek for a couple months now

 

[cybeast21]

Since it's not a job, doesn't that mean Kino won't get severance pay?

 

[Zhangar]

It's funny how the Japanese comments I'm seeing are mostly positive, while people here are unreasonably negative.

This type of story doesn't quite work for foreign audiences, apparently.

I'm baffled that "possible actual retard completely fails to understand that she's in a situation that's life-or-death for everyone else for multiple volumes worth of chapters" actually resonates with Japanese audiences.

That's one hell of a cultural divide, I guess.

 

[Rockdrop]

Imagine if the villain wasn't as dense as the MC and had kept the charade to order her to destroy the world for bonus pay. She 100% would have done it.
But now this manga is stuck with another 6 chapters of the MC being depressed on the corner for being fired instead. Unless it gets axed and gets one last hurrah OPM chapter to end things.

 

[Kyte]

It's funny how the Japanese comments I'm seeing are mostly positive, while people here are unreasonably negative.

This type of story doesn't quite work for foreign audiences, apparently.

do japanese people really enjoy this kind of "haha the MC is too braindead to realize the obvious" stuff?
that explains a lot about the prevalence of stupid misunderstanding plots

 

[juancarlospareja]

I'm firmly in hate read territory. Everytime she opens her mouth I just want to slap her.

Tu y todos los demas

 

[7goat]

Imagine if the villain wasn't as dense as the MC and had kept the charade to order her to destroy the world for bonus pay. She 100% would have done it.
But now this manga is stuck with another 6 chapters of the MC being depressed on the corner for being fired instead. Unless it gets axed and gets one last hurrah OPM chapter to end things.

Exactly. I'm completely fine with Kinoko being an idiot, since that's the core premise of the manga. What I'm not fine with is Mr 11 over here, he's not smart, wacky, or charismatic enough to balance it out. Yeah, I get that 'acting stoic while everyone else is being silly' can also be a form of comedy, but that usually works if the other party is actively goofing around.

That, and Usoyama not immediately screaming for Kinoko's help once she untied herself. Really fumbled that one.

 

[7goat]

She deserved to be fired. I mean destroying their plan? Who does she think she is?!?

Since it's not a job, doesn't that mean Kino won't get severance pay?

>contributed more towards your boss's plan in less than a minute than his smelly bum cult ever did in years
>gets fired, didn't even get a simple thank you
Typical black company boss

 

[Kefrayba]

I feel the root of the problem is that MC's sense of danger is totally warped, in comparison to everyone else in the manga. She didn't or thinking it was strange because this level of danger is nothing compare to what she experienced at home.
However, I also do not think it convey that way in the manga... The manga just portrait her as a naive girl.

 

[dcdfvr]

Ot took her getting fired and the guy explaining it to her for her to realize, but even then she still has doubts

 

[DrunkinDonut]

The entire situation is summarized on Panel 1, Page 7. Everyone else involved doesn't fully understand the power levels involved.

Everyone else thinks this is like a Danger Level 9 and reacts accordingly. For Kinoko, this doesn't come close to a 1. And I am fine with the comedy inherent in that. If it's not your jam, it's not. I hope you enjoy your other stories.

For all the OPM comparisons, people understand how little Saitama actually shows up and does stuff lately in a manga nominally named after him right? All Powerful Characters tend to be boring and Saitama tends to be a Deus Ex Machina character. You don't make stories with him, you make stories around him. Kinoko may be the titular character, but the success of the storytelling depends on the other characters, not her. And that's where I think this story is failing, I'm laughing at all the stuff, but there isn't enough story around the other characters yet.

 

[Rikushadow5]

"Writer tells same joke for 8 straight chapters and wonders why people are getting bored and annoyed when he goes to tell it a 9th time".

The entire situation is summarized on Panel 1, Page 7. Everyone else involved doesn't fully understand the power levels involved.

Everyone else thinks this is like a Danger Level 9 and reacts accordingly. For Kinoko, this doesn't come close to a 1. And I am fine with the comedy inherent in that. If it's not your jam, it's not. I hope you enjoy your other stories.

For all the OPM comparisons, people understand how little Saitama actually shows up and does stuff lately in a manga nominally named after him right? All Powerful Characters tend to be boring and Saitama tends to be a Deus Ex Machina character. You don't make stories with him, you make stories around him. Kinoko may be the titular character, but the success of the storytelling depends on the other characters, not her. And that's where I think this story is failing, I'm laughing at all the stuff, but there isn't enough story around the other characters yet.

I think this hits the nail on the head. There's a lot of Fucking Nothing going on-panel for how much is happening in the background. We don't know anything about the side characters and the author has decided that retelling the same joke with Kinoko every chapter is going to somehow appease the readers.
I'm surprised the JPs are enjoying this. I've seen better series with similar dependencies on more diverse gimmicks get the axe.

 

[Carn109]

Fired.
It's actually kino over
Maybe its time for kino to be unleashed