Keikenzumi na Kimi to, Keiken Zero na Ore ga, Otsukiai suru Hanashi - Vol. 4 Ch. 16

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With this chapter. I had some music playlist on youtube playing. The one song i remember from naruto called Utakata Hanabi, Played during the festival date i was like "oh this is getting good" Then as it slowly got to them in the shrine and slowly kissed, this part of the song played and my heart melted how wholesome that was.

 
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now do what Abe-san wished for
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"I love you. If this feeling continues on, I'm sure I would want to have sex with you", is such a weird line.
I get the context, but it almost sounds like she has zero attraction towards him, I don't think anyone would be happy to hear this.
 
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I see people in the comments complain that she hasn’t had sex with the MC yet even though she’s already done it lots of times. I believe it was in the first chapter he asked her if she actually wanted to have sex and she said she didn’t. She only had sex before because she thought that’s what you do. So he told her that they would only do it if that’s what she wanted.
Waiting for when they both feel like doing it is great. Dragging the whole thing out for
years
in-universe is just sad. It's the usual boring, tired trope, despite the premise hinting at changing things up a bit. I mean, the protagonists are in their late teens. It's not even realistic.
 
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Maybe it's because I didn't go to highschool in Japan but this level of relationship development from highschoolers seems wildly unrealistic.
 
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just noticed that in chapter 2.5 she has the same dialouge about her firsts
Yeah, 3 chapters here seem to be done by different artist (Runa's design is also kinda different) and are sort of previews for full chapters:
This - preview for Ch. 13
This - Ch. 9
This - Ch. 16 (this one)
Current numbering doesn't make much sense, but my previous attempts to report this matter were rejected :aquadrink:
 
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I hope author finish Ryuuto&Runa friend's pregnancy plot point quickly so they are not interfere with main couple progress that much.
Well I'm certainly not that far in 7 yet, though, it's not like it's much of a shock. Lol So far it's better than 6... Which just felt like an entirely different novel about Ryuuto (almost) alone.
 
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Man her life is sad as fuck.
Was. So was his, for mostly different (but slightly overlapping) reasons. There's still plenty that needs to be addressed, but she now has confidence she can handle it if he's there with her.

Most of the time, anyway. The anxiety from years of relationship trauma will remain a constant threat to her love for Ryuuto (as will Maria's tenacity).
 
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This is Keiken Zero sir. If he has sex the title won't have any meaning anymore.

even in vol. 7. They both are already in university and they still haven't done it.
Dammit. After all that stuff with her complaining to Nicoru that he didn't attack her when she was sick at Christmas, then taking the initiative in finding out his tastes in porn and digging into his fetishes in V4, it's kinda depressing it doesn't go anywhere.
 
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there's a problem in this story that i find quite weird, and after reading some of the spoiler on the comments (assuming it was true) it makes it even worse.


at first it's all about two people seeking for a "true love", but then the author keeps reminding us about the obsession with sex isn't obligation, it unintentionally set the goal of the story to when & whether or not they'll have sex. the MC entire role from now on wasn't even to progress the narrative towards the goal since if the spoiler are true, this all came to FMC decision, bcs there's no way it takes that much time for him to "convinced" her, if it only take 2 months for him to get their relationship to this point (chapter 16), and by the looks of it, their only problem now is just to settle things with the twin sisters. hell, this can even end with 7-10 chapters if the flow is consistent. so it's all up to the FMC now, which brings me to criticize her character. from the moment the mc turn down the sex offer, my pov reading this is more lean on to the FMC and want to find out how this "personality" of her created in the first place, and then she explains how her parents situation. this means there's 2 big factor that influenced her being this "experienced" woman from young age. one, due to her parents young married. two, journey for "true love". the thing is, she's so stupid if she really go to relationship with this 2 in mind bcs, one, her parents relationship leads to divorce, the reason for their divorce doesn't matter here, bcs at least if she really want to take a lesson from her parents situation, choose a route exactly the opposite to her parents, not following the exact same one. two, and i know people would be so subjective with this, but her whole mindset with new partner = new body count is just so fckd up, this girl doesn't need a "right person" this girl need a treatment and maybe some therapy session. not to mention she's only 16(?). i read the manga bcs someone on the anime comment session spoiler me and said that the rumor is just a make believe caused by the twin sister and the FMC in reality isn't really fckng around, so i thought "oh, it's that kind of series where it's just a misunderstanding and the MC will find out the truth" so i give it a read, but this chapter pretty much confirmed that it is actually the case. you see, this isn't even about the "MC is such a cuck bcs FMC has a high body count", it's more of the reason why the FMC the way she is and how her character "justify" that reasoning. IF only the situation say she just do it one time, and then trauma makes her aware of the intention of her next bf, it might come out reasonable and she might came out with an idea to give a "test" to her next bf whether or not they'll just want to use her or not (like the first bedroom scene with the mc). but no, the way she explains her past relationship is that they all (or most of them) do use her, and surprise surprise, she repeat the same cycle. to the point that, it seems like sex is not a big issue for the FMC, just see how often she ask the MC about it, which leads to the LN spoiler, what the hell the MC been doing all this time? this taking time don't make sense bcs of how fast paced the manga has been going on. this isn't all the issue i have with the series.


i mostly a seinen reader, so things like this usually don't bother me so much if it handle pretty well. but this series, it's a shonen that try hard to be mature, the narrative feels like it originally from a hent*i and then toned down to a normal romcom. i'm actually surprised bcs manga with a trope "confess first and then plot happen" is usually good, series such as horimiya and bokuyaba do this perfectly.
 
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settle things with the twin sisters

Runa twin sister stuff still going on in vol. 7 where she almost get lead on by already married man. Good thing that Runa, seeing her twin sister as her past self convince her twin sister not to go along with da man.

about another stuff. I think vol. 7 theme is Runa feels really bad/regret about herself for give herself easily to other people but can't give herself for someone she really love due to various circumstance. Ryuto being virgin and she really love him more compare to 3 year-ish ago kinda amplify her self-hatred too. (author cockblocking power too strong. If Runa can meet author, she probably stab author to death tbh)

Did the author decide to milk this plot point again? the difference is She now love him even more in current ln than this manga chapter which really put weight on her mind. idk really.

They are in 3rd year university student in vol. 7
 
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