Koushaku Reijou ni Tensei shiteshimatta node, Mental Otome na Ore wa, Zenryoku de Onnanoko wo Tanoshimimasu - Vol. 2 Ch. 10.1 - The big stars are com…

[SirArthurIV]

How nice of Miranda to try to find Uranus

I wonder if she'll find the dark spot on Uranus. Or maybe see if Uranus has a ring around it. I wonder if she can prove that Uranus is covered in clouds of methane.

 

[Blaze_Rod]

Will Pluto stay a planet in this world, I wonder.

Assuming they are actually logical people and don't want to contend with the absolute insanity that is the dwarf planet catalogue mixing in with the actual planets, no it won't.

 

[ForTheJerusalem]

Page 14, that a correction worthy loli.

 

[monkey123]

Bandits boutta attack.

How about orcs?!

 

[Robinisback]

The fact that the planets are still named Venus, Mercury and Jupiter, it confirms that Greek Mythology does exist in this world where Miranda is living. Not something important but it is still interesting.

 

[CraniumAmbiguity]

While she doesn't have any means to prove it, she could still publicly theorise that the earth moves around the sun - what evidence would they have to the contrary? In fact, all evidence that the earth is the centre of the universe (the sun, the planets, etc. moving around the earth) could equally be used as evidence for her 'theory'.

Depends on the origin of the geocentric based theory. Historically IRL religion came up with it based on the superiority of man, literally being the center of all creation (because we are special). When Galileo proposed the solar system based off of new/better technology for telescopes and observation, he was ridiculed by the church and deemed a heretic. The church had already weighed in on the topic and affirmed it to be the truth. Anything that contradicting that was an affront to the church's authority.

The truth may always prevail, but dead men tell no tales.

 

[AnotherDuck]

It's actually fairly accurate to say that "a lot of people believed in the geocentric model". The heliocentric model has been known for almost as long as Earth being a sphere(ish), but not widely accepted. Of course, this is assuming their world is the same in that regard as ours.

"How do you measure distance between stars anyway? It's not like there are lasers here."

Math. And lots of math. Lasers don't work, though, since light speed is a bit too slow for these distances.

She's not doing astrology, but astronomy, when she tries to figure out the planets' movements.

It's always so fascinating to think about how we would derive the laws of nature by ourselves all the time. Kinda weird how people who usually do that now are conspiracy theorists and their debunkers

Probably because nowdays so much more is known that you need far more advanced research to find out more, which isn't available to most people.

While she doesn't have any means to prove it, she could still publicly theorise that the earth moves around the sun

If their science advanced the same way ours did, there would be available theories on it (although maybe not available to her). She would "just" have to improve and popularise them.

 

[TestAddress]

Oshitt, here we go lads, get ready for the Prince arc 😈

how to f p

 

[TestAddress]

I wonder if she'll find the dark spot on Uranus. Or maybe see if Uranus has a ring around it. I wonder if she can prove that Uranus is covered in clouds of methane.

She'll do some self-exploration herself 9.9 3

 

[TestAddress]

Will Pluto stay a planet in this world, I wonder.

Miranda needs to learn Copernicus level of Math at age 10 though...

Miranda has a mind of a college student majoring in sciences.

 

[ariel_haymarket]

Thank you, Flaemes, for your hard work!

 

[Hakurei06]

Remember that the inertia of the geocentric model wasn't just a matter of religious dogma.
If the earth were moving around the sun, why don't we observe a yearly movements of the stars?
Most people then believed that the stars were much smaller and closer to us than we do today. mostly because astronomical equipment wasn't nearly so accurate back then. It took 200 years from the inquisition of Galileo before we made our first measurement of stellar parallax.

 

[TestAddress]

This manga is still very heart-warming.

Spoiler: Mabel

until the part where Miranda teaches a boy how to fap

 

[Hikineet]

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[Vortexchen]

The fact that the planets are still named Venus, Mercury and Jupiter, it confirms that Greek Mythology does exist in this world where Miranda is living. Not something important but it is still interesting.

No, it’s not. This is just a translation problem, in RAW it’s Suisei 水星 (Venus), Kasei 火星 (Mars), etc

 

[Vortexchen]

Spoiler: Mabel

until the part where Miranda teaches a boy how to fap

And what’s a problem here? Still heartwarming

 

[TestAddress]

Remember that the inertia of the geocentric model wasn't just a matter of religious dogma.
If the earth were moving around the sun, why don't we observe a yearly movements of the stars?
Most people then believed that the stars were much smaller and closer to us than we do today. mostly because astronomical equipment wasn't nearly so accurate back then. It took 200 years from the inquisition of Galileo before we made our first measurement of stellar parallax.

Get your flat earth out of here. Please study more geometry. This happens because HS do not take seriously their mathematics.

 

[Hakurei06]

Get your flat earth out of here. Please study more geometry. This happens because HS do not take seriously their mathematics.

What does any of this have to do with a flat earth? The
Parallax effect is the apparent change in relative positions of objects when the observer moves. This change is more readily apparent the closer the objects are to the observer.
I’m sure a geometric model exists that describes this but a firm grasp of the numbers aren’t strictly necessary to understand this. Take a thumb and put it in front of your face, turn your head. Parallax. Move your thumb as far away from yourself as you can and do the same. Parallax, but less discernable. Look at that mountain and those clouds out in the distance and take two steps to the left. I’m sure there was some kind of parallax effect, but i’d be very surprised if you could tell me what.
(Actually let’s circle back to me being called a flat earther for some reason. If you take a look at a sunset on the horizon, then climb a ladder, you can actually see the sunset again. This is why the ramadan fast is observed at different times on the upper floors of skyscrapers like the Burj Khalifa on than the ground. Parallax, and also proof the earth’s surface is curved.)

So the answer to the rhetorical question i asked in the previous post is “well we do observe that, actually. at least now that we’ve got these really good telescopes”

Galileo had roughly two arguments to support heliocentrism, which he used not just to describe how he thought how the natural world worked, but also, following from that, how one should interpret the parts of the bible that contradicted that worldview: one was the theory of the tides, which was just flat out wrong. Wrong enough that it could be disproved by his peers. The other was that stellar parallax was real, but actually the stars are reeaaally further away, by orders of magnitude, than anyone had previously considered plausible, but also waaaaay bigger and waaaaaay brighter to the same extent, so it’s hard to measure parallax of the stars from the yearly movements of the earth; but just trust me bro.
Those arguments were published in a book in which he wrote a stand-in for the pope, supporting geocentrism, named simplicio.

It turns out that second argument was right, but again, evidence in his favor didn’t show up for 200 years, and his other argument was, not to put too fine a point on it, shit. So while I’m not saying the church was right to call an inquisition, would anyone really be surprised?
Anyway Pope John Paul II said sorry to Galileo, all it took was the better part of 400 years.

 

[skylithos]

Depends on the origin of the geocentric based theory. Historically IRL religion came up with it based on the superiority of man, literally being the center of all creation (because we are special). When Galileo proposed the solar system based off of new/better technology for telescopes and observation, he was ridiculed by the church and deemed a heretic. The church had already weighed in on the topic and affirmed it to be the truth. Anything that contradicting that was an affront to the church's authority.

The truth may always prevail, but dead men tell no tales.

Ummm no, the church never rejected Galileo idea of heliocentric. They have always accepted the idea of heliocentric, it's just that Galileo is the one who proves it, the church accept his finding but Galileo keep being a fucking cunt to the church for no reason thus they prosecuted him. You need to remember that Roman Catholic church is extremely old, even far older than Jesus. It's an institution that is founded during Roman Republic and prevail up until now. They just change the religion they believe in along the way and they possess all the knowledge and findings from ancient Greeks and Roman. Therefore, there is never any reason for them to believe in something absurd like geocentric.

The theory of geocentric and flat earth are modern invention in an attempt to make religion look dumb compared to science.

 

[CraniumAmbiguity]

Ummm no, the church never rejected Galileo idea of heliocentric. They have always accepted the idea of heliocentric, it's just that Galileo is the one who proves it, the church accept his finding but Galileo keep being a fucking cunt to the church for no reason thus they prosecuted him. You need to remember that Roman Catholic church is extremely old, even far older than Jesus. It's an institution that is founded during Roman Republic and prevail up until now. They just change the religion they believe in along the way and they possess all the knowledge and findings from ancient Greeks and Roman. Therefore, there is never any reason for them to believe in something absurd like geocentric.

The theory of geocentric and flat earth are modern invention in an attempt to make religion look dumb compared to science.

The events as described by wiki.
The in depth events by a university.

The church took affront to Galileo publicly supporting the heliocentric model as they had already backed the geocentric one. He was not "being a fucking cunt to the church" but writing books supporting heliocentric while backtracking in front of the inquisition. The man was just trying his best not to be labeled a heretic, imprisoned, tortured, and killed by the church.

also: The geocentric model is not a "modern invention"; It was the prevailing model at the time. It is not about making religion looking stupid; science didn't have it all together back then either. Religion is just stubborn to change.