Mairimashita! Iruma-kun - Ch. 439 - Merize (3)

[isoycrazy]

Henri became a member of the 13 Crowns, probably with Sullivan's backing, and afterwards they couldn't touch Ameri.

Agreed. I hope the second lesson Ameri takes from this, first being she can have kids with Iruma, is she will need Power to pursue her relationship. She will need clout to make people accept it and strength to beat the crap out of anyone who touches her Iruma.

 

[deleted-user-94bfc63407]

It still sounded as if you were describing not a possible misunderstanding, but a negative reaction to some fact. While continued to try to guess my motives for writing the comment, forcing me to justify myself by saying that I mentioned certain things in the "correct" and "officially permitted" context. Are you still surprised why I find this uncomfortable?

Show me where I find the shift in tone surprising or attribute it to some intense focus on the immigrant crisis? This whole ICE discourse was brought in by you and that guy complaining about American-centrism, while ironically failing to realize that Japan itself has its own completely different immigration context. Again, you are complaining about things that didn't exist in the first place.

TL;DR; I was trying to say a good number of the people downvoting you (and likely a few who upvoted you too) are the activist types, not yourself.
As well as mention that I didn't quite agree on the specifics.

It was meant to put you at ease and take your point seriously.

 

[SuperOniichan]

I don't see how I gave that impression but I'm sorry that I did nonethless.

Well my impression was you were surprised by how fast the theme shifted, it's just my interpretation by the fact you felt the need to mention such.
As for the intense immigrant crisis, you haven't explicitly and I haven't said I thought you did.
All I've said is some people may have interpreted your comment as such, which is why they downvoted you.

The ICE discourse was brought in by anyone who has mentioned ICE in this thread, all I've done is say that the immigration topic is completely benign as a theme in this manga and that notable main topic is actually the ill intentioned research goal of Naberius.

Please go re-read my first comment, it makes no mention of any particular political bodies or political factions.
My second comment was solely to agree that Americans tend to inject politics into everything.

Imagine that you are literally saying that a person must justify himself to others and explain his motives in detail to them in order to avoid being accused of an unjustified reaction to them. I won't even mention how ironic and unconscious the advice to reread the first comment to see the absence of any political assessments is. So, is it nice to be in my shoes?

Anyway, whether you intended it or not, your comment was liked by many who downvoted me. So, in the eyes of others, it really did look like a jab at me, even if you didn't mean it.

 

[SuperOniichan]

TL;DR; I was trying to say a good number of the people downvoting you (and likely a few who upvoted you too) are the activist types, not yourself.
As well as mention that I didn't quite agree on the specifics.

It was meant to put you at ease and take your point seriously.

I didn't intend for this to be political bullshit at all. But it seems like there are too many pretentious hypocrites in this discussion who see politics in everything but then try to project it onto everyone else.

 

[deleted-user-94bfc63407]

Imagine that you are literally saying that a person must justify himself to others and explain his motives in detail to them in order to avoid being accused of an unjustified reaction to them. I won't even mention how ironic and unconscious the advice to reread the first comment to see the absence of any political assessments is. So, is it nice to be in my shoes? Also, whether you intended it or not, your comment was liked by many who downvoted me. So, in the eyes of others, it really did look like a jab at me, even if you didn't mean it.

I didn't say that though, I was quite explicit...
How do you know that those who liked my comment and downvoted yours didn't do so just do just because they just disagreed with you on the minor details?

The fact is some people will misinterpret/be activistic while some will interpret correctly but still disagree for apolitical reasons.
Given the nature of my comment, I don't see why the activistic types would get much of a rise out of such as It doesn't really hit that political itch, just the politically scientific one.
To which there is a substantial difference.

 

[SuperOniichan]

I didn't say that though, I was quite explicit...
How do you know that those who liked my comment and downvoted yours didn't do so just do just because they just disagreed with you on the minor details?

The fact is some people will misinterpret/be activistic while some will interpret correctly but still disagree for apolitical reasons.
Given the nature of my comment, I don't see why the activistic types would get much of a rise out of such as It doesn't really hit that political itch, just the politically scientific one.
To which there is a substantial difference.

For the same reason you might say my comment reads like "an activist who touches on this topic at every opportunity." And for the same reason I don't see the potential for deep political statements in my comments. You do realize that two people can play this game, right? So all I can do is ask, "What does it feel like to be in my shoes?"

 

[deleted-user-94bfc63407]

For the same reason you might say my comment reads like "an activist who touches on this topic at every opportunity." And for the same reason I don't see the potential for deep political statements in my comments. You do realize that two people can play this game, right? So all I can do is ask, "What does it feel like to be in my shoes?"

Hence why I only addressed the pragmatics of what you said and avoided your intent.
I chose not to apply any connotation to your comment and other's, only help explain why some may have downvoted.
The first comment wasn't even directed at you alone for the record.

It probably feels utter arse to be in your shoes but that isn't entirely other's doing it's also yours by how you're acting.
What do you even want from me at this point?

 

[SuperOniichan]

Hence why I only addressed the pragmatics of what you said and avoided your intent.
I chose not to apply any connotation to your comment and other's, only help explain why some may have downvoted.
The first comment wasn't even directed at you alone for the record.

It probably feels utter arse to be in your shoes but that isn't entirely other's doing it's also yours by how you're acting.
What do you even want from me at this point?

If you still don't quite sincerely realize that this game can be played by two people instead of ridiculous expectations, that only you can speculate about other people, but they cannot question your actions, then nothing.

 

[deleted-user-94bfc63407]

If you still don't quite sincerely realize that this game can be played by two people instead of ridiculous expectations, that only you can speculate about other people, but they cannot question your actions, then nothing.

I've been appealing for you speculate as well so that you don't just leave this situation miserable.
If you want to ascribe ill intent to my actions, you can.
I've told you my intent but you don't seem to care.

I regret trying to reassure you, you're utterly mad, begone.

 

[SuperOniichan]

I've been appealing for you speculate as well so that you don't just leave this situation miserable.
If you want to ascribe ill intent to my actions, you can.
I've told you my intent but you don't seem to care.

I regret trying to reassure you, you're utterly mad, begone.

Then don't waste your time patronizing me, because all you really care about is trying to explain why you can't be treated the same way you treat me or others. Goodbye.

 

[Mascio88]

This plot makes absolutely zero sense considering what happened to Ameri later. All of a sudden we learn that a huge number of important demons were involved in her birth, she's some kind of human-demon hybrid wanted by the border patrol from the very start of her life and years later she's just casually attending school being the famous student council president and attending high society parties. Come on.

My guess is that Purson's father may appear in a flashback later.
If the theory that Wett is Purson's brother is confirmed, it means their family also has the power to erase a certain person's memories.
It wouldn't be surprising if they used someone to erase Merize's existence from the demon world, from the demons involved in her pregnancy.

 

[Mascio88]

Really interesting, chapter
Sochiro's father is very similar to him, even in terms of ethics.
What is Sanzu? Does it still exist in the present? Is It linked with Baal's organization?
Knightwalker has finally revealed his true intentions.
Now, we know his intentions weren't achieved (Ameri grew up happily with her father).
If Knightwalker had shown interest in humans for his own purposes, Narnia, on the contrary, showed profound racism towards them, demonstrating a completely different approach.
This makes me think that Knightwalker, in addition to seeing his plan fail, was probably defeated/arrested, (and this could explain Narnia's hatred towards humans).
Henry seems wasn't yet powerful enough to defeat him, so he must have been helped by someone (but who? Sullivan?), and after this Henry obtained the post of Knightwalker and a place among the thirteen (probably also with the aim of protecting Ameri?).
Regarding Merize, I'm increasingly inclined to believe that after Knightwalker's defeat, she was sent back to the human world to protect her from other demons and save her.

 

[deleted-user-94bfc63407]

Then don't waste your time patronizing me, because all you really care about is trying to explain why you can't be treated the same way you treat me or others. Goodbye.

Frankly I should really say;
I don't even get what egregious crime you think I've committed against you nor what the hypocrisy is you think I'm espousing.
I genuinely don't understand.

For your own sake, lighten up and have a good day.

 

[Wanderer00]

Guys please cut it out, can we just discuss the chapter we came here to read instead of irrelevant IRL stuff?

 

[SuperOniichan]

Frankly I should really say;
I don't even get what egregious crime you think I've committed against you nor what the hypocrisy is you think I'm espousing.
I genuinely don't understand.

For your own sake, lighten up and have a good day.

Dude, I've already made it clear to you several times that I think further conversation is pointless. Think what you want, I've had a headache all day and I'm in no mood to argue for the sake of arguing with someone online.

 

[Levankua]

Free the beeg dog ;w;

 

[Jackal-Lantern]

Are people this surprised at this turn of events? Like really?

This entire operation was spearheaded by Kalego's dad; who we saw was close to Naberius. It was no accident that Naberius is a racist with a disdain for non-demons (especially humans); it was obvious that he got it from his father. And no, I'm not talking about inheriting it... But like his father had drilled that madness into Naberius's head. We already saw earlier when Naberius was speaking with his father, his father had told him that he would fill him in on the details later.

Then there's how Kalego's family runs; the eldest would inherit the position at the Border Security, while the younger would inherit the position of Guard Dog at Babylis. Meaning that Naberius had ample opportunity to learn from his father, be it directly or through whatever documents he may have left behind.

So I'm not even surprised by this. In fact, I'm more interested in the fact that Balam's family had opposed such research, and how Balam and Kalego had became friends despite their family's seeming opposition.

But damn... I always thought it, but isn't Ameri's bloodline magic like one of the most easy to take down or reverse? Like it's based on the user being able to have strong willpower, enough so that they could fantasize and/or delude themselves into believing something... So doesn't that mean that someone manipulative enough could use it against them? Like just the fact that Kalego's father had called Henri's love as playing pretend.

Like imagine if that planted a seed of doubt in Henri's mind as to whether he actually really loved Merize, and whether it was she that he loved or just the idea of loving a 'human'. Now obviously I know that's not the case, but like seriously it seems to be something that can be taken advantage of.

 

[radstylix]

Guys please cut it out, can we just discuss the chapter we came here to read instead of irrelevant IRL stuff?

Aaaand just like I said, anything politics-related in the comments section always turns into a mess 😅

I still remember that fiasco back then when even the current translators for Iruma-kun made a meme page at the end of the chapter about "punching nazis".

Of course, there are actual "nazi punching defenders", while most of the commenters aren't frickin in the US (including me) and are aware they label everyone they don't like "Nazis" or "Nazi defenders" so we don't care about US politics.

They eventually replaced that meme page because of the mess.

 

[_Arc_]

Is Kalego the only DECENT ONE OUT OF HIS ENTIRE FAMILY??? (Besides his Uncle)

Who is the uncle?

 

[Wanderer00]

Aaaand just like I said, anything politics-related in the comments section always turns into a mess 😅

I still remember that fiasco back then when even the current translators for Iruma-kun made a meme page at the end of the chapter about "punching nazis".

Of course, there are actual "nazi punching defenders", while most of the commenters aren't frickin in the US (including me) and are aware they label everyone they don't like "Nazis" or "Nazi defenders" so we don't care about US politics.

They eventually replaced that meme page because of the mess.

As I said, that's irrelevant irl stuff. I am here to read manga, and only that. Nothing more, nothing less.