Osananajimi Kanojo no Morahara ga Hidoin de Zetsuen Sengen shite Yatta - Vol. 1 Ch. 1

[abos]

Serves you right!

 

[AnotherOrc]

honestly I've read the whole web novel and was wishing the "tsundere" girl (she's actually abusive, shouldn't even be called a tsundere) would get her redemption arc and be better then she realizes her mistakes or something and get him back but nah. She just decends further into more manipulative and abusive stuff while dude just suddenly had a transformation and everyone starts liking him. Basically a boring wish fulfillment story.

Spoiler: Whole story summary spoiler

Guy's surprisingly great at track and fun to be around so he becomes everyone's friend and wins the sports festival. Glasses girl has always loved him because she noticed how kind he was due to him always...watering plants™. Ex does increasingly batshit things (stalking, false bullying accusations against glasses girl, kidnapping) until the MC just yells at her real good and then she cries and apologies for all the bad shit she's ever done and acknowledges that she is twisted and wrong. Glasses girl heals MC's trauma with love. The end.

The unrealistic part here is how easy the dude detached himself. He acts like someone who's mentally healthy, not someone who grew up with wrecked self esteem.
Also mc is good at everything, he is incredibly handsome and charismatic.
On top of all of this, a cute girl falls in love with him because he...watered plants™...

Thanks for the heads up, it's a bit disappointing to hear how things are so cut and dry like that. Yeah sure his ex was kind of a bitch, but it's a bit disappointing to hear there's nothing else too her then that while he's apparently Mr. Perfect.

 

[HoangDinh]

Thanks for the heads up, it's a bit disappointing to hear how things are so cut and dry like that. Yeah sure his ex was kind of a bitch, but it's a bit disappointing to hear there's nothing else too her then that while he's apparently Mr. Perfect.

Yeah it's really dumb, she doesn't change or improve at all while dude just has a 180 outta nowhere. It's obnoxious

 

[Arin-san]

This is a basic wish fulfilment story, and actually kinda satisfying to read. This is more fun that a guy getting hit by a truck, going to another world and getting a lot of girls. I've never liked tsunderes. I think there's mentally something wrong with people who like tsunderes. Must be some low self-esteem issues. So this kind of story where the MC flips off the Tsundere, it's kinda nice I guess.

Also, author must have had a very sad past. Hope this manga helped him recover from all the torment of his abusive ex-gf.

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

Oh no, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions.

 

[maketa]

RIP BOZO

 

[Siquall]

She's just a tsundere.
Without the dere. So just tsun, to the max.

 

[biologist]

he...watered plants™...

I am going to buy plant rn.

 

[thycondrius]

Holy shit his old GF is a bitch. Go for the glasses cutie, MC!

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[adm0726]

stay clear of toxic women

 

[Retro68]

Good for him.

 

[hanpan_yarou]

bruh, they always take the easy way out and make the loser mc hot. would be much more interesting to see an average guy navigate his way post toxic relationship
not interested

 

[chilneun]

the ex girlfriend is like, the rude girl archetype in a real setting lmao. just comes to show how those archetypes are totally unreal and would never work IRL. i mean she likes him or what? using those generic phrases then proceed to humiliate him like she doesnt like him at all. idk, i dont know the logic behind her character. but at the end of the day its still manipulation.

 

[rrrrrr333333]

bratty childhood friend is in need of immediate correction

 

[dementati]

So like, her toxicity is quite realistic, I think. There definitely are people who treat their partners like that, and people who are gaslit into staying in such relationships using similar tactics, where an alternate reality is created where everyone else supposedly hates the other person and the abuser is the only one who "cares" about them. What is not realistic is that the MC is like, Mr Super Handsome And Sociable after only cutting his bangs. If he's been stuck in such an abusive relationship where he's had his mental health and self-esteem gradually ground to dust over the course of 13 years, it doesn't matter how good his genes are, he oughta look way worse for wear and be much worse at communicating with other people. I could believe that he could get back to being fit, handsome and popular in time, if he manages to stay in an environment of constructive and positive reinforcement, but it would take much more time and effort to recover from what he's been through than just throwing out the girl and getting a haircut.

 

[xSinStarx]

This is a basic wish fulfilment story, and actually kinda satisfying to read. This is more fun that a guy getting hit by a truck, going to another world and getting a lot of girls. I've never liked tsunderes. I think there's mentally something wrong with people who like tsunderes. Must be some low self-esteem issues. So this kind of story where the MC flips off the Tsundere, it's kinda nice I guess.

Also, author must have had a very sad past. Hope this manga helped him recover from all the torment of his abusive ex-gf.

I think you might just be too sensitive bruh. Lol And I kind of doubt they did. I don't know that someone who has a traumatic past would write a wish fulfillment story where all you gotta do to fix all the damage is cut your hair and break up with your girlfriend. That doesn't scream experienced to me.

 

[Arin-san]

I think you might just be too sensitive bruh. Lol And I kind of doubt they did. I don't know that someone who has a traumatic past would write a wish fulfillment story where all you gotta do to fix all the damage is cut your hair and break up with your girlfriend. That doesn't scream experienced to me.

I didn't even badmouth the manga? Basically everything I've said is just a stonecold description of what this manga is about. Me saying the author must be experienced is me making an educated guess.
So which part of my comment suggests that I'm sensitive lmao. I feel like you just added that in cause some part of my comment ticked you off or something
Bro is just saying things for the sake of saying

Also, how do you not know that "cutting hair" isn't the main focus, it's the fact that he made a small change and suddenly became super attractive mr. popular mr. worldwide, which is how most wish-fulfillment stories go.

Plenty of people who had a traumatic past write a story about it where they DON'T have a traumatic past. There is an entire term in literary called "self-insert" which involves the author inserting himself into the protagonist in a wish-fulfillment scenario (biggest case in point: SAO)

 

[Huichelaar]

I like how the abusive relationship is depicted in this for the most part. The way Hanabi constantly hacks away at Souma's self-confidence whilst boasting about herself and reminding him how grateful he ought to be for her to be willing to put up with him, really nails how (I'd imagine) an abusive relationship can form and continue.

It's nice to see Souma attempt to (and so far succeed at) break(ing) away from this relationship, and I would be curious to see how this would change his (outlook on) life.

Would be curious, because so far he has been met with at least four classmates fawning over his looks, and his ex very visibly fuming at the consequences of her actions. It's all getting too into wish-fulfilment territory. If his life will merely be a concatenation of positive things from here on out, without any challenges that would accompany exiting an abusive relationship, this will get boring. If his ex will constantly be reminded of her mistakes, will never change, will always come off as a one-dimensional villain that only struggles ineffectively from the moment he broke up with her, this will get boring.

 

[xSinStarx]

I didn't even badmouth the manga? Basically everything I've said is just a stonecold description of what this manga is about. Me saying the author must be experienced is me making an educated guess.
So which part of my comment suggests that I'm sensitive lmao. I feel like you just added that in cause some part of my comment ticked you off or something
Bro is just saying things for the sake of saying

Also, how do you not know that "cutting hair" isn't the main focus, it's the fact that he made a small change and suddenly became super attractive mr. popular mr. worldwide, which is how most wish-fulfillment stories go.

Plenty of people who had a traumatic past write a story about it where they DON'T have a traumatic past. There is an entire term in literary called "self-insert" which involves the author inserting himself into the protagonist in a wish-fulfillment scenario (biggest case in point: SAO)

Sorry, you've misunderstood. I got you though. And I was being critical of the story, just fyi.

This, "I've never liked tsunderes. I think there's mentally something wrong with people who like tsunderes.", is what the sensitive comment was about. "I don't like girls who are kind of rude and anyone who does is mentally ill" makes you sound sensitive.

"Plenty of people who had a traumatic past write a story about it where they DON'T have a traumatic past." True. The key point is the traumatic past doesn't exist. But what they probably don't do is write stories where the traumatic past happens but the fix is as simple as a small change like hair cutting. Cuz it's just going to feel disingenuous, like it does. Case in point, even writing a manga to fix the trauma is way more work then just going to a good barber.

 

[Arin-san]

Sorry, you've misunderstood. I got you though. And I was being critical of the story, just fyi.

You really replied after more than two weeks, acting like Kiyotaka Ayanokoji or Nikocado Avocado "I'm always two steps ahead" ass. "I got you" lmfao what, bro thinks we're playing chess. "You fell into my trap" ahh comment.
Keep in mind, you were the one who engaged in ad hominem first, probably as a response to some sort of trigger. So maybe try not doing that this time, big man

This, "I've never liked tsunderes. I think there's mentally something wrong with people who like tsunderes.", is what the sensitive comment was about. "I don't like girls who are kind of rude and anyone who does is mentally ill" makes you sound sensitive.

Makes me sound sensitive, to YOU. Your out of place whining also makes you look like a little bitch, but I didn't say that to you did I? That's the thing buddy, we don't say some things even if we feel like it. My comment made you feel uncomfortable, big whoop. So you decide to randomly slap a label on me and announce it? What do you think my reply to that should be?

"Plenty of people who had a traumatic past write a story about it where they DON'T have a traumatic past." True. The key point is the traumatic past doesn't exist.

I don't know if you don't understand how English works or what, but this sentence literally doesn't make sense to anyone that is reading this. Lmao you said "True" and agreed with my point where I explicitly said "There exists people who had a traumatic past and write stories where they don't have a traumatic past (stories being wish-fulfillment stories)" and then proceeded to say "The key point is the traumatic past doesn't exist" like what. Are you denying the existence of mangaka who had traumatic pasts or what, because that's quite literally how the sentence comes off as, whether you meant it or not.

But what they probably don't do is write stories where the traumatic past happens but the fix is as simple as a small change like hair cutting.

You're just agreeing with yourself lmao. You have literally no basis for that. At least I provided logic—logic that states mangaka who went through struggles in their early life often makes stories the complete opposite of it as a coping mechanism. Fujiko F. Fujio was bullied as a child and experienced war and poverty, he ended up creating one of the most beautiful and colorful worlds ever created, the world of Doraemon. Sorachi has talked about depression several times, yet he created Gintama, a work completely opposite of anything negative like that.

Plenty of people in the manga/anime/light novel industry have depression because of their insane work schedule. So how can you guarantee me that there exists no mangaka who had a tough past but their work reflects the complete opposite?

Remember, your point is that "uhm uhm but authors who had a traumatic don't write stories where the fix is as simple as a small change". It does, they are called "wish-fulfillment stories". I literally said that to you in my previous comment but sentences are too hard for you to grasp.

Cuz it's just going to feel disingenuous, like it does. Case in point, even writing a manga to fix the trauma is way more work then just going to a good barber.

Okay, now I don't know what you're waffling about anymore. "It feels disingenous" it's a you issue buddy. YOU feel like that. Keep your feelings to yourself man. Nobody else feels that way. Feels disingenous lmao to who??? That is just such a braindead thing to say.
They write wish-fulfillment manga because it is a COPING MECHANISM. Do you know what that means or do I need to chatgpt explain it to you? How is that same as going to the barber? Let me explain it like you're 5 years old.


Mangaka depressed in early life--->Mangaka makes a wish-fulfillment manga where he self-inserts as MC, and MC is the best looking person on Earth, gets all the bitches, and beats everyone up--->Mangaka is coping but that is completely valid and fine--->Everyone including the author reads the manga and has fun

Now explain to me how that is the same as... going to a barber??? Literally makes no sense lmao.


What's funny is you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You just wanted to say something and prove somebody wrong. If you're gonna keep going "uhm cuz cuz actually uhh barber" then you might as well just talk to yourself cause this is pointless.