Vinland Saga - Ch. 215 - Thousand Year Voyage Part 24

[sixtem]

Eek? Eek??? After the half dozen Eek my eyebrows were raised. And suddenly they get drawn cartoony and childish while the Vikings, who were literally defending the woman and children (who are being targeted in boats), the vikings who were so dehumanized, treated like a metal weapon treasure chest, who were treated like cattle being slaughtered for days suddenly are dark and in shadow and all evilllllll. No, it's not going to work... right...It will work which is the worst part, and the cycle never ends

Why do you write like such a weirdo? The only one with a shaded, ominous face is Einar and it's to show his trauma. The Lnu who are actively engaging in the fight, like the one Einar stabbed, are drawn very realistically.

 

[maxiusagi]

woooooooo

finally the war is back baby

 

[sixtem]

erm, you don't mind??? looks like SOMEONE needs a lesson in media literacy, amirite folx?

You should probably be smarter than the people you're trying to parody before trying it. :^)

 

[begait]

do you get it now einar? huh?? who's your enemy now, einar???

 

[NGASAK]

To put it shortly: sometimes violence is the only way to save your home and people you care about

 

[Northern]

For a manga promoting near-Christian pacifism,

Which makes sense because the historical Thorfinn Karlsefni Thórdarson, his wife Gudrid Thorbjarnardóttir and her brother-in-law Leif Eriksson were all Christians.

 

[deezenautz]

You should probably be smarter than the people you're trying to parody before trying it. :^)

I am, luckily.

 

[SuperOniichan]

Which makes sense because the historical Thorfinn Karlsefni Thórdarson, his wife Gudrid Thorbjarnardóttir and her brother-in-law Leif Eriksson were all Christians.

Am I denying their religious views somewhere? Torfin almost advertises Christianity in the second season.

 

[kirik]

For Arnheid

 

[JohnCtm]

Einar my boy

 

[JeCarlos65]

Thousand Year Arc

 

[KappaDvorak]

For a manga promoting near-Christian pacifism, Vinland Saga impressively consistently features fairly brutal and naturalistic guro battles. But I don't mind

Cause the author want the story to be somewhat realistic and believable. It's better to deliver the core believe of the story that way than a sterilized clean story

 

[al_pacino]

I really wish Kingdom of Saguenay is how this manga is going to end. I'm just having a hard time how we could get there. especially since Saguenay is somewhat inland which meant that the Nords have to go inland under watchful eye of the hostile local and possible cutoff from Greenland-Iceland.

 

[Wheres_polo]

All that talk for him to just change like that
I would of had more respect for him if he was like that from the begging or would have stuck to his morals but in the end he was no better then the man who killed the women he loved

 

[checkmy4]

We are so back boys. Almost reaching season 1 / firepunch level of kino.

 

[NotSomeone]

Sure, it's an understandable trauma response. But it would be healthier in the long-term for him as the person experiencing it and especially for us as readers to understand that at the end of the day, it's just not true - not in the way that he wants it to be, anyway.

He understands that he had a choice, that's why he is trying to convince himself otherwise right now.
Honestly it's crazy that there's such debate around what happened here.
"If he didn't kill he would have been killed."
Well that's true but being killed is also a choice he could have made, what we should be questioning here is not "If Einar had a choice" but the morality of the situation:
- Is Einar wrong for killing those who were going to kill him?
Well, the answer depends of how much of a hardcore pacifist you are, some would rather be killed than to harm another person.

I saw some people commenting on how this chapter also paints a picture of how Thorfinn and Thors' brand of pacifism is only possible because both Thorfinn and Thors are extremely powerful warriors chosing not to do harm and that's also really interesting.

 

[azurebee959]

Ahh
giving me a reason to drink, just in time for the weekend

 

[JoeKerr]

I would like to mention that Thorfinn gave another option. The same one that he gave King Canute during their talk at Ketil's farm.

Run away.

 

[TwisterJR]

Damn, poor lad

 

[Theozilla]

I saw some people commenting on how this chapter also paints a picture of how Thorfinn and Thors' brand of pacifism is only possible because both Thorfinn and Thors are extremely powerful warriors choosing not to do harm and that's also really interesting.

I mean that's almost certainly an intentional explored theme and concept of the story, i.e. Thors and Thorfinn being "true warriors" and/or "a true warrior needs no sword", that a truly strong and great warrior is one who is a capable of not having to kill/inflict egregious violence. Part of why Thorfinn wanted to go even further in his ideals and avoid all violence in the first place (i.e. not send anyone to the metaphorical "Hell/Valhalla") is because he is very well aware that not everyone is capable of being a "true warrior" like him and his father (and be able to carry the dead with them). We're already seeing Einar feel the weight of having killed someone for the first time.