Yajin Tensei: Karate Survivor in Another World - Vol. 9 Ch. 59 - Guildmaster

bot

Active member
Joined
Mar 7, 2019
Messages
46
He noted, himself, that they might want to remove him so that he can't spread the knowledge any further, once he has taught the guild personnel the tricks. However, why would Yajin teach them anything if they don't pay? Maybe they intend to rob the money back from his corpse, but clearly they must agree on the terms on the surface, even if the end game is to kill him. The guild guys weren't born yesterday, so if Yajin offers to teach them for free, it's an alarm bell for them. If Yajin tries to negotiate for the highest price and a part of it paid beforehand, the guild people instead will relax.

something i suspect is mc might (try to) dilute the information in such a way that its ineffecent enough to not make it worthwile for them. he was coreced into teaching them he never said he would do it well.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Jan 18, 2018
Messages
19,817
something i suspect is mc might (try to) dilute the information in such a way that its ineffecent enough to not make it worthwile for them. he was coreced into teaching them he never said he would do it well.
As I understood it, he will need to take a couple of guys with him to gather the herbs. So, basically, it's mostly up to those people to follow his example, even if they ask questions and expect answers. If the trip is successful, there's only so much Yajin can do it delay the inevitable. Right now he does have the excuse of needing to be prepared, though the same goes for the guild. It has been a highly unpopular quest, so likely the guild will need a bit of time to find volunteers who also have what it takes. It's of no use if the employees Yajin trains can't do it, in the end.

That being said, Yajin shouldn't have any worries about his new gear being finished in time. After all, he can't go anywhere without his gear. Although naturally it all also depends on how he's planning to handle his own disappearance. He's not particularly greedy, so he might even skip receiving full payment if he deems it will save him from getting backstabbed. So, if he still plans to train the guild folks, to avoid being hunted by them too vigorously, he might see to it that the guys return to the town safely, but he will make himself scarce immediately at that point, without entering the town anymore.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Feb 23, 2024
Messages
552
You approached the challenge assuming only human muscle power was an option, I felt you ought to consider a few more alternatives.
But I did respond to people's suggestions, some of which I admitted might work under some assumptions, those which wouldn't I explained why I think so. I'm fine with discussing whatever point of view you have, but first you have to present it - being dissmisive like in your previous post, without actually addressing anything I said is hardly productive.
 
Contributor
Joined
Jan 20, 2018
Messages
1,317
But I did respond to people's suggestions, some of which I admitted might work under some assumptions, those which wouldn't I explained why I think so. I'm fine with discussing whatever point of view you have, but first you have to present it - being dissmisive like in your previous post, without actually addressing anything I said is hardly productive.
Where was I dismissive? I just suggested something like a dog spit, or maybe a donkey or ox powered crank. What scale of powersystem are you seeking to implement?
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Apr 4, 2023
Messages
89
But I did respond to people's suggestions, some of which I admitted might work under some assumptions, those which wouldn't I explained why I think so. I'm fine with discussing whatever point of view you have, but first you have to present it - being dissmisive like in your previous post, without actually addressing anything I said is hardly productive.
He was a little terse there, methinks :D. A dog spit was used in big kitchens to turn spit roasting mechanisms. They had a dog in a wheel. Trained animals can actually work alone very well.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Feb 1, 2023
Messages
160
What a hidden gem this was. I just read it in 3 days and reached this point. Something I've been wondering is how is anyone supposed to start a life in that world? There are literally less than 10 good people in the whole continent. Almost everyone has no problem with starting a fight to the death on a whim and even now when he's built up some expertise and reputation it didn't amount to anything. The guild receptionist won't take him on, the pharmacist guild is out to get him, and now there are random thugs in the street. I'm genuinely concerned about the society of this fictional world.

As for the future of Yajin's life, I can only see this stopping when Puppy is fully grown and his weapons are all black steel. He can't even complete a rare herb-gathering job without the employer trying to fuck him over. Is there a novel this is based on? If someone's read it, could you let me know what happens?
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Feb 23, 2024
Messages
552
Where was I dismissive? I just suggested something like a dog spit, or maybe a donkey or ox powered crank. What scale of powersystem are you seeking to implement?
Seriously? Well, I honestly thought that was equivalent to "poppycock!", "nonsense!" or the like. Sorry about that.

Yeah an animal-powered system might work, as I've stated previously, though I don't think dogs would be suitable, unless we're dealing with small loads to be processed. The drum itself must be large to fit anything worthwhile, combined with the load it's weight would probably exceed the capabilities of dogs. You'd need a large beast of burden, like an ox, same as for fieldwork.

He was a little terse there, methinks :D. A dog spit was used in big kitchens to turn spit roasting mechanisms. They had a dog in a wheel. Trained animals can actually work alone very well.
I don't have any experience in working with animals, but I'm not really convinced that training would allow you to have it working by itself the whole day and almost without pause, even if we're talking about the "easily" trained ones, like dogs.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Apr 4, 2023
Messages
89
Seriously? Well, I honestly thought that was equivalent to "poppycock!", "nonsense!" or the like. Sorry about that.

Yeah an animal-powered system might work, as I've stated previously, though I don't think dogs would be suitable, unless we're dealing with small loads to be processed. The drum itself must be large to fit anything worthwhile, combined with the load it's weight would probably exceed the capabilities of dogs. You'd need a large beast of burden, like an ox, same as for fieldwork.


I don't have any experience in working with animals, but I'm not really convinced that training would allow you to have it working by itself the whole day and almost without pause, even if we're talking about the "easily" trained ones, like dogs.
In Hampton Court Palace there is a very fine example of a dog spit, but even in modern times there are still places that use animal powered mills for grain. At worst you just need a child with a stick to shoo the animal on. From my own youth there was a gypsy who went around the area with a horse and cart, and the horse just automatically walked and stopped at the next house because it had been doing the same job for years and knew the route. The guy had to put the break on if he needed to stop for longer or the horse would keep doing his round.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Dec 26, 2019
Messages
378
I wonder if the Adventurers Guild will pop out to defend their only source of famour grass
 
Contributor
Joined
Jan 20, 2018
Messages
1,317
Seriously? Well, I honestly thought that was equivalent to "poppycock!", "nonsense!" or the like. Sorry about that.

Yeah an animal-powered system might work, as I've stated previously, though I don't think dogs would be suitable, unless we're dealing with small loads to be processed. The drum itself must be large to fit anything worthwhile, combined with the load it's weight would probably exceed the capabilities of dogs. You'd need a large beast of burden, like an ox, same as for fieldwork.


I don't have any experience in working with animals, but I'm not really convinced that training would allow you to have it working by itself the whole day and almost without pause, even if we're talking about the "easily" trained ones, like dogs.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Feb 23, 2024
Messages
552
In Hampton Court Palace there is a very fine example of a dog spit, but even in modern times there are still places that use animal powered mills for grain. At worst you just need a child with a stick to shoo the animal on. From my own youth there was a gypsy who went around the area with a horse and cart, and the horse just automatically walked and stopped at the next house because it had been doing the same job for years and knew the route. The guy had to put the break on if he needed to stop for longer or the horse would keep doing his round.
Yeah, horse mills still exist, but there's a slight problem: animals working these jobs need frequent, extended breaks. It doesn't matter if a mill pauses for some time, but a tanning drum should rotate continuously or else the process will be uneven, resulting in a subpar or even ruined product. No animal (with the exception of humans) can move all day long, so you'd probably need to swap them out. It's doable, but more involved than it seems.
 
Joined
Apr 17, 2025
Messages
1
The easiest solution to the tanning drum issue would be a water wheel. But they could also rig up a belt or gear system to pedals? The next problem is to hire enough people to swap out when they get tired. But even half a day in a hand-cranked drum is still likely an improvement on their existing process.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Dec 17, 2024
Messages
257
Give our boy a break already!

EbPvNwSUcAEWCOa
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Mar 27, 2023
Messages
146
I don't get why the barrel rotation being realistic matters, but magic, fantasy animals, and supernatural strength are options for rotating the drum. If that's too much of a diversion, they can have an unrealistic system, not because a realistic one within the setting is impossible, but because the details of leatherworking are not an important topic in the story. What matters is that Yajin is under a time crunch yet can't bolt at the first sign of danger like he usually does.

I do think the details posted are interesting, by the way, and appreciate that they've been shared. An interesting tangent that contributes to a discussion thread nonetheless remains a tangent as far as the narrative goes.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top