Fukushuu o Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru - Ch. 133

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I mean. Revenge is pointless. Dude gonna find some loophole , kill rhe goddess somehow with some ironic twist. And yada yada. The whole point is to see them let their evil out and resive their punishment. But death is not the end. Even in the after life he punish them. Soo redemption is only logical way. Cuz after dying and dying..what left?

Im glad victoria getting redemption, maybe the sister would back and she would properly apologizes to her.
 
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ngl. before the r*pe scene, I lowkey find the young king soo damn attractive.
Charis was ugly. that explains why Vicky hates it when her future kid turns out ugly as well. it will only remind her of Charis. 😅
She had a kid? Didn't Raul make her infertile at the beginning of the story?
 
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I'd still rather stay a country girl :notlikethis: Good thing I'm a Goddess
But I think our Goddess of Abundance is taking her role a little too seriously with Valentine too :huh:
 
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so her attendant got murdered just because of a petty woman? good lord.
and rape again. such evil people.. that MC is busy to remove from the world.. one by one.

Yeah out of all this, I feel sad that the loyal attendant got killed just like that. That stupid king really lived for far too long.

Oh boo whoo. So she had a tragic backstory. That doesnt earn her forgiveness. I had a fucked-up childhood Stemming from generational abuse and did bad things out of pain and anger. Yet it didnt earn me forgiveness, nor my abusive parents forgiveness from what they went through and it shouldnt. Ones persons pain and anguish doesnt somehow negates their bad deeds and the pain and misery they spread to others.

I love that everyone like this forgets that this fantasy series also has a batshit goddess that gave her equally batshit saintess the power to basically remove all inhibitions, as well as boost tiny impulses and turn them into all-consuming desires.

Remember: it's fiction. It isn't moral judgement, and it doesn't excuse or explain real abuse. It's written to tell a story, and it's meant to elicit a certain response. Sometimes you gotta set aside your own biases and try to engage with works on its own terms.
 
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Unless it was complete domination or mind control, all of this is just a waste of time of attempting to redeem Victoria.
I said the exact same thing before this whole thing started, only mind control can make us forgive her
some people stay kind even if they are face with hardship, it's true that how you are treated when you are young shapes your self when you grow old but it's a choice to become good or bad
 
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I'm all up to whitewash Victoria because she's a good foil to Raoul. We are not the same.
Also, even if it's badly written, I feel the point of this flashback is to show the Gods basically made this world a complete fuck-up place, more than pitying her.

(Having said all that, I still ship Raoul and Theodora.)
 
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All the goddess did was remove her restraint, the original ideas were still Victoria's own.
Hey, if all humans had no restraint and all of our first ideas were a go ahead, humanity would be even more fucked than it already is. It's called Impulsive Thoughts, nearly all humans have them, but our restraints is what stops us from doing them.
 
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It will all come down to how influential goddess was in her actions later on. These chapters obviously sets the scene for "look how fucked up her upbringing was" angle but you can't ignore that there are good people despite their fucked up families / environments while the opposite is also true.
 
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Well, I'm already assuming her first step into becoming the Victoria we know today will be to kill the Queen Bitch... which is honestly understandable so far.

Just hope the Author won't forget that just because she had a shitty childhood, that won't excuse her actions as an adult.
 
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I understand Victoria’s motivations better now. The following write-up is not a spoiler, only a guess. I might be completely wrong in the details since my memory is fuzzy.
After knowing the truth behind her mother’s death, she decided the only way to stay alive and perhaps take vengeance is to become the heiress or the mother to an heir. If she is important enough to the King, she would be protected and could get away with anything, even if that means killing the Queen. So that is exactly what she did, while eliminating every other possible heir, leaving herself (or her child) the only choice. Whatever innocence left in her is lost in the bloodshed, so what happens in this flashback is no justification for her cruelty, she just isn’t the same person anymore. No forgiveness here.

As for why she kidnapped and raped Raoul, the blame is certainly on the Goddess, partly at least. However, as common plot points go, hypnotism doesn’t work if there isn’t already a hidden urge. If I have to guess, by the time she met Raoul, she is already corrupted by the ways of a cutthroat noble, climbing her way from irrelevance, threat of death (presumably from the Queen or other heir aspirants). The sincere and innocent eyes of Raoul, the hero, pursuing the betterment of mankind, symbols of justice and the good. They must have reminded her of something she thought doesn’t exist, a pure heart, something she lost. That’s why there was this urge to be with Raoul in the first place. Unfortunately, that love was amplified by the Goddess, and subsequently misdirected by her corrupted ways.

One thing I notice in her motivations towards Raoul is that: It wasn’t just bodily desires or the want of an heir, as you see in what the King did to Valentine. It was love, albeit twisted. Twisted by her possessiveness, though I believe that was force of habit. By that point, one must wonder: What kind of person is she by the time she meets Raoul? Well, I don’t remember the Queen being there in the early chapters, so that might be proof that she’s already dead. I remember Victoria claiming that every other heir apparent is already dead as well. We thus can conclude that she is already a cold-blooded killer at this point in time. Not a psychopath who revels in the killing, no, just someone who is willing to use any means to get what she wants. Now, take that way of acting, and give it an end, amplify it to its strongest. Finally, the product is what we all remember and hate, that is what Raoul remembers.

And now we know at least the clues of how Victoria got there. That is not cause for forgiveness, but wouldn’t you think: For who is supposed to be the main girl for Raoul, it would be too shallow for her to act in evil just because? That, and for Raoul to create the perfect world, it would help to understand how evil is born in a once-innocent person such as hers. Who knows? Maybe he would enjoy knowing more about how Victoria his rapist came to rape him.
 

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