Kouchuugun Shikan Boukensha ni Naru - Ch. 51.1

[MangaDex]

 

[vannn]

Couldn’t they have turned off the monster wards initially, why let them blow up their walls?

 

[Nomfishus]

Tyftc

 

[Nomfishus]

Couldn’t they have turned off the monster wards initially, why let them blow up their walls.

To lure them into an enclosed area with minimal exit points, they can't retreat without concentrating their forces in a small area which would allow MC and co to blast them all to tiny pieces with cannons so they have to fight the stupidly strong monsters which prevented anyone from ever colonising the forest.
After said fight they'll be weakened with severe losses and no safe path of retreat [EDIT: If they even survive the fight] so they can relatively safely be cleaned up by MC's people. Plus as someone said last chapter it seems that the outer wall was low tech and easily replaceable with the inner wall being the one they would have any difficulty replacing and/or repairing.

 

[gravreverse]

that's very tuxedo mask of her

 

[vannn]

To lure them into an enclosed area with minimal exit points, they can't retreat without concentrating their forces in a small area which would allow MC and co to blast them all to tiny pieces with cannons so they have to fight the stupidly strong monsters which prevented anyone from ever colonising the forest.
After said fight they'll be weakened with severe losses and no safe path of retreat [EDIT: If they even survive the fight] so they can relatively safely be cleaned up by MC's people. Plus as someone said last chapter it seems that the outer wall was low tech and easily replaceable with the inner wall being the one they would have any difficulty replacing and/or repairing.

They’re in the monster forest, the opposing army is already surrounded by natural hazards so waiting makes no difference. They’ve already committed their entire force at this point and letting them blow up walls is a waste of resources at best.

Just feels like a hole.

Props the the tl, hopefully we see the other side of this arc.

 

[Kalamel]

It's the Psi emitter once again.

 

[chendu]

Tanks for the food

They’re in the monster forest, the opposing army is already surrounded by natural hazards so waiting makes no difference. They’ve already committed their entire force at this point and letting them blow up walls is a waste of resources at best.

Just feels like a hole.

Props the the tl, hopefully we see the other side of this arc.

There's also a great probability that the inner you get into the forest the stronger the monster are
Also them taking damage can serve as justification for whatever retaliation they plan afterward, cause people fear the strong if they don't take any damage it would make others afraid of them and band together to defeat them

 

[thedinowarrior]

Bro jus got beat up like he fodder, get a upgrade MC this is jus sad

 

[amamiya426]

This ain't Earth Batman, there isn't any laws about scientifically experimenting on any non-human entities, to control and turn them into our personal warmachines.

Also, I wish they'd just tell us the thing with the mysterious chick. So, is she a descendant of a previously stranded imperial ship crew?

Or just some one off odd ball that came to realize the god of the planet is an alien AI that altered nanomachines to alter the beings of the planet into developing psyonics(magic) to help battle the bugs in the future?

 

[Seraphsent]

Someone tell the author that the whole "captures person, beats them up, lets them go, doesn't explain herself, leaves" only works for memes, not stories.

 

[polemarch]

They’re in the monster forest, the opposing army is already surrounded by natural hazards so waiting makes no difference. They’ve already committed their entire force at this point and letting them blow up walls is a waste of resources at best.

Just feels like a hole.

Props the the tl, hopefully we see the other side of this arc.

And now they are deeper inside the forest and their escape route consists of a small number of choke points i.e. the wall breaches they made. Both things would led to greater losses.

 

[Abricomas]

This ain't Earth Batman, there isn't any laws about scientifically experimenting on any non-human entities, to control and turn them into our personal warmachines.

Also, I wish they'd just tell us the thing with the mysterious chick. So, is she a descendant of a previously stranded imperial ship crew?

Or just some one off odd ball that came to realize the god of the planet is an alien AI that altered nanomachines to alter the beings of the planet into developing psyonics(magic) to help battle the bugs in the future?

Actually, there's the Imperial Ethics Committee. And while they're far away and a Class 1 Emergency has been declared, Alan has flash-trained flag officer training that likely instilled some moral and ethical standards that he can't go against. He recognized that, and that's why he forbade the usage of that type of Imperial "education" with the children, even though it's more efficient.

As for the woman, I think she might be a native that the Goddess found who has a high compatibility with her control signals/magic circles, and basically force-grew a nanom inside her and uploaded all of the Imperial training and knowledge that the Goddess was able to download from Alan.

 

[Abricomas]

And now they are deeper inside the forest and their escape route consists of a small number of choke points i.e. the wall breaches they made. Both things would led to greater losses.

Also, I think that with an army of that size, it would be easier on resources to use the monsters to kill most of the Alois/Verta army than to use drones to hunt them down, since turning off the anti-monster pylons is less wear and tear than constantly firing from military drones.

Also, by drawing them in, it would be easier to capture POWs, and separate them into those that can be absorbed into the Starveek Kingdom and those that can't, and not letting army survivors escape to become bandits and be a resource drain on the nation.

 

[terranmcv]

It turns out Alan's territory is surrounded by 4 walls, not 3 walls as we previously thought. And the numbering starts from the innermost. The city wall is number 1, the outermost wall is number 4. The ambush was carried out in the area between walls 3 and 4.

 

[Antairan]

While I believe the strategy is sound in theory: allow the enemy to waste ammo trying to break through the several walls, then creating a bottleneck for exiting the inner walls, and then calling in the local fauna to smack them without an easy way out.
I believe the execution has been more due to the circumstances of recent events rather than a proper plan being executed by stages...
For one, the AI can't act by itself against other humans (apparently?), so she can only wait for orders.
The protocol they have in place requires them to have the cptn relay the orders, if they cannot be contacted for a certain amount of time, the next in command takes charge, which appears to be the current situation.
The AI then asks the next in command to either step in or it will take charge (which contradicts the first step somehow?)
Since the enemy has already breached the 4th wall, the first line of defense, we won't know if there was anything there to prevent a breach besides the walls.
We now have the second in command activating one of the Active Defense Mechanisms, which calls in the local fauna.

I think things have worked out well enough in the end, but the execution has been rather bland, and in a way, also kind of nonsensical. I'm not sure if this is what the og author had in mind (perhaps he/she communicated with the manga author to give them some tips on how things should develop?), but it feels sloppy, and I still can't with how dumb the mad max part is...

I still think the manga author can fix this, if he/she takes their sweet time developing the overarching plot of high technology, while keeping the "local" plot more in the adventuring in the middle ages with cheats side of things. A bit of an old school method for sure, but it will work better than... "this".

 

[truniht]

Also, I think that with an army of that size, it would be easier on resources to use the monsters to kill most of the Alois/Verta army than to use drones to hunt them down, since turning off the anti-monster pylons is less wear and tear than constantly firing from military drones.

Also, by drawing them in, it would be easier to capture POWs, and separate them into those that can be absorbed into the Starveek Kingdom and those that can't, and not letting army survivors escape to become bandits and be a resource drain on the nation.

Yeah if we look at it from the perspective of minimizing the usage of rare materials, it does make some sense to use this strategy, lasers do wear out after all, if they have a hundred drones, a thousand shots from each of them does add up, if scout drones even have the capacity to fire that many shots.

 

[quser]

Couldn’t they have turned off the monster wards initially, why let them blow up their walls?

They could also one shot Alois.

 

[deadrabbits]

that's very tuxedo mask of her

"My job here is done"
"But you didn't do anything"

 

[JoeChilled]

It feels like y'all thought out this strategy for the battle more than the author.