Namaiki na Gal Ane wo Wakaraseru Hanashi

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It's just a story, and the character in question is both called those things and demonstrated to be them in it. Nobody is mad at the character; she's hardly even that developed to begin with. The only thing anybody ever really took issue with was how the mangaka has historically handled the presentation of the story and its prior iteration, since it came off as deceptive. On the contrary, you seem more offended that people are simply calling a spade a spade.

For my part, though, I'm not going to spare any tears for a character like that. It takes more than a pair of tits and a pretty face for me to care about somebody's story, especially when they're a nasty person who brings ruin on themselves.

“Calling a spade a spade.”

Interesting way to put it. By that logic, I can call your mother a whore because shes slept with people. Your mom is a whore because she is a whore.

You are an idiot because youve probably done one stupid thing in your life.

The logical fallacy is that you people are completely unforgiving and misogynistic. Have you tried touching grass and talking to women?

Jesus.
 
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“Calling a spade a spade.”

Interesting way to put it. By that logic, I can call your mother a whore because shes slept with people. Your mom is a whore because she is a whore.

You are an idiot because youve probably done one stupid thing in your life.

The logical fallacy is that you people are completely unforgiving and misogynistic. Have you tried touching grass and talking to women?

Jesus.
The only logical fallacy here is you straw-manning me with your weird "your mom" argument. We're not talking about doing one stupid thing and correcting yourself, nor about someone having been in a prior relationship that didn't work out. We're talking about a clear pattern of misbehavior. That's far more than a single mistake, that's a lifestyle based on making mistakes while you're fooling yourself into believing you're doing nothing wrong. The pre-ser version of the sister is, like, definitionally a skank regardless of my opinions.
 
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This author should just make full fledged hentai doujin ffs. Fanbox content are annoying cause they're mostly 1 page.
 
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We can say whatever we want, but this is clearly an improvement compared to rthe porevious version...
 
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No. It was an enthusiastic gangbang. This time, she didn't want to drink, told them she didn't like him touching her, and said she wanted to go home. Not to mention she passed out. Unlike last time, where she drank of her own free will, stayed without a problem, and then fucked them enthusiastically.
Logical reasoning is where? Alcohol is a sedative... If you think it isn't rape, then if you give someone sleeping pills and have sex with them, that isn't rape either...
 
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Wow. The amount is misogyny in here is incredible.

I don't expect much from forum posts except some diversion, but this is saddening.

On the bright side looks like most of the most toxic incels got banned.
 
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“Calling a spade a spade.”

Interesting way to put it. By that logic, I can call your mother a whore because shes slept with people. Your mom is a whore because she is a whore.

You are an idiot because youve probably done one stupid thing in your life.

The logical fallacy is that you people are completely unforgiving and misogynistic. Have you tried touching grass and talking to women?

Jesus.
" unforgiving and misogynistic" lol, okay, buddy.
 
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I just realised how disgusting this manga is, literally could just make art and dont give any text and the viewer could make a better story in his head.
 
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After being questioned once again about the FANBOX content, the author made a post explaining some things and admitting to others. I'll be sharing a MTL version of the full post, but here are some links to the original content:

Here’s the original post: https://egakinuma.fanbox.cc/posts/8666967

Here’s a screenshot of the original post (you never know when she’ll delete something).


Here’s a copy of the original post content:
ギャル姉って結局なに?

いつも応援ありがとうございます!江垣沼です。

皆様のご支援のおかげで連載に向けて準備することができ、となりのヤングジャンプさんにて連載開始できました!
本当にありがとうございます。

今回こちらのブログは、Twitter版・FAN BOX版・連載版の違いの説明になります。
Twitter版や連載版のギャル姉を愛していただいている方々にFANBOXのサムネイルで衝撃を与えてしまい、申し訳なく、説明のブログを書かせていただきました。

それぞれ画像での簡単な説明になりますが、
主に伝えたい点と致しましては、Twitter版と連載版は別のものになっているという部分です。

一年前。
ギャル姉は元々、睡眠強○がどうしても描きたくなって始めたネタなのですが、FAN BOXに漫画をアップロードしたところ、1日後に規約違反になりアカウントBANになりかけたので、企画が倒れ、作品を再構築したものがTwitter版になります。

しっかりTwitter版とFAN BOX版とでストーリーに繋がりをだしつつ、性癖を出し切るつもりで描いていたので、かなり私の性癖が盛り込まれていて、暗すぎる作品になっています。
当時、FAN BOX版のサムネイルを公開した時点で読者の方々が阿鼻叫喚で悲しんでいたのをよく覚えていて申し訳ないです。
しかし、作者の性癖が歪んでいるのは変えられないので、突き進めました。

半年前。
連載化にあたり、ギャル姉はTwitter版とは差別化し、尚且つクリアにする必要があると考えていました。
読者を傷つけかねないエロを商業連載に持ち込んだり、ファンボックス必読が前提になるのは読者の方々に負担をかけすぎてしまうと判断して、設定やストーリーを再構築したものが連載版になります。
私自身がエロを絡めないギャル姉の可哀想なシーンを描きたくなく、過度にいじめるのも心が痛かったので、今の連載版の形になっています。

連載後に動かしていたFAN BOXはお知らせしていた通り、完全二次創作になりますので、本編とは全く関係がございません。

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ここまで読んでいただきありがとうございました。
説明が遅くなってしまい申し訳ございません。

疑問点ございましたらできるだけ返信いたしますので、コメントおねがいいたします。
よろしくおねがいいたします。

追記
思った以上に混乱させてしまっていたので
追加します。

↓更新時期 2023/11 以降のもの↓
□Twitter版×ファンボックス版
陵辱if ×
二次創作 ×
ファンボックスも本編 ⚪︎

必読 △
自由に、読みたい人だけ ⚪︎

↓更新時期 2024/07以降ののもの↓
□連載開始後のファンボックス
陵辱IF ×
二次創作 ⚪︎
ファンボックスも本編 ×

必読 ×
自由に読みたい人だけ ⚪︎

FYI:
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Here’s the MTL version of the post:

What exactly is 'gyaru aneki'?

Thank you for your continued support! This is Egakinuma.

Thanks to everyone's support, I was able to prepare for serialization, and we’ve now launched the series on Tonari no Young Jump! I am truly grateful.

This blog post is an explanation of the differences between the Twitter version, FANBOX version, and the serialized version. I apologize for any shock caused by the FANBOX thumbnails to those who love the Gyaru Aneki characters from the Twitter and serialized versions, so I wanted to clarify things here.

The explanation will be brief and accompanied by images, but the main point I want to convey is that the Twitter and serialized versions are separate works.

One year ago: The original idea for Gyaru Aneki started when I felt a strong urge to draw something about sleep assault. However, after I uploaded the manga on FANBOX, it was flagged for violating the guidelines, and my account almost got banned within a day. As a result, the project collapsed, and the restructured version became what is now the Twitter version.

I was drawing both the Twitter and FANBOX versions intending to tie the stories together while fully indulging my fetishes, so the result was a much darker story, heavily packed with my personal kinks. I still remember how some readers were horrified and saddened by the FANBOX thumbnails at the time, and I’m truly sorry for that. But my warped fetishes as the author couldn’t be changed, so I pressed on.

Six months ago: As the series moved towards serialization, I realized that I needed to differentiate the Gyaru Aneki in the Twitter version and make it clearer. I felt that incorporating explicit sexual content in a commercial serialization or requiring readers to follow the FANBOX version as a prerequisite would place too much burden on them. So, I restructured the setting and storyline to create the serialized version.

Personally, I didn’t want to depict excessive, cruel scenes for Gyaru Aneki without involving any erotic content, and it was painful for me to overdo the bullying, which led to the current form of the serialized version.

As previously mentioned, any content in FANBOX after the series began serialization is entirely fan-made and has no connection to the main storyline.

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Thank you for reading all the way to the end. I apologize for the delay in providing this explanation.

If you have any questions, I'll do my best to respond, so please feel free to leave a comment. I appreciate your understanding and support.

Addendum

I realize I may have caused more confusion than I intended, so I’ll add this.

↓ Update Period: After November 2023 ↓

□ Twitter Version × Fanbox Version
  • Rape IF ×
  • Fan Creations ×
  • Fanbox is also the main story ⚪︎
  • Must Read △
  • For those who want to read freely ⚪︎
↓ Update Period: After July 2024 ↓

□ Fanbox after serialization begins
  • Rape IF ×
  • Fan Creations ⚪︎
  • Fanbox is also the main story ×
  • Must Read ×
  • For those who want to read freely ⚪︎
FYI:
  • × (Cross): This symbol typically indicates that something is not allowed, not included, or is prohibited. In this context, it suggests that certain content (like "Rape IF" or "Fan Creations") is not applicable or available in that version.

  • △ (Triangle): This symbol often represents a "caution" or "important note." It may indicate that the content is recommended but not strictly necessary, or that readers should be aware of something special regarding that section.

  • ⚪︎ (Circle): This symbol generally signifies that something is allowed, included, or available. In this case, it indicates that the content is freely accessible or that it’s part of the main story.



So, that's it—she finally came clean and admitted what (almost) everyone already knew.

P.S. Never forget:

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After being questioned once again about the FANBOX content, the author made a post explaining some things and admitting to others. I'll be sharing a MTL version of the full post, but here are some links to the original content:

Here’s the original post: https://egakinuma.fanbox.cc/posts/8666967

Here’s a screenshot of the original post (you never know when she’ll delete something).


Here’s a copy of the original post content:



Here’s the MTL version of the post:

What exactly is 'gyaru aneki'?

Thank you for your continued support! This is Egakinuma.

Thanks to everyone's support, I was able to prepare for serialization, and we’ve now launched the series on Tonari no Young Jump! I am truly grateful.

This blog post is an explanation of the differences between the Twitter version, FANBOX version, and the serialized version. I apologize for any shock caused by the FANBOX thumbnails to those who love the Gyaru Aneki characters from the Twitter and serialized versions, so I wanted to clarify things here.

The explanation will be brief and accompanied by images, but the main point I want to convey is that the Twitter and serialized versions are separate works.

One year ago: The original idea for Gyaru Aneki started when I felt a strong urge to draw something about sleep assault. However, after I uploaded the manga on FANBOX, it was flagged for violating the guidelines, and my account almost got banned within a day. As a result, the project collapsed, and the restructured version became what is now the Twitter version.

I was drawing both the Twitter and FANBOX versions intending to tie the stories together while fully indulging my fetishes, so the result was a much darker story, heavily packed with my personal kinks. I still remember how some readers were horrified and saddened by the FANBOX thumbnails at the time, and I’m truly sorry for that. But my warped fetishes as the author couldn’t be changed, so I pressed on.

Six months ago: As the series moved towards serialization, I realized that I needed to differentiate the Gyaru Aneki in the Twitter version and make it clearer. I felt that incorporating explicit sexual content in a commercial serialization or requiring readers to follow the FANBOX version as a prerequisite would place too much burden on them. So, I restructured the setting and storyline to create the serialized version.

Personally, I didn’t want to depict excessive, cruel scenes for Gyaru Aneki without involving any erotic content, and it was painful for me to overdo the bullying, which led to the current form of the serialized version.

As previously mentioned, any content in FANBOX after the series began serialization is entirely fan-made and has no connection to the main storyline.

bxYUlhp.png

VTHbe49.png

gjvK5Nj.png


Thank you for reading all the way to the end. I apologize for the delay in providing this explanation.

If you have any questions, I'll do my best to respond, so please feel free to leave a comment. I appreciate your understanding and support.


So, that's it—she finally came clean and admitted what (almost) everyone already knew.

P.S. Never forget:

LRDLzLl.png
Wait, so all the arguments are because an adult made up characters to satisfy her fetish and kinks and decided to monetize them to make a profit? Bruh, what a legend
 
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Wait, so all the arguments are because an adult made up characters to satisfy her fetish and kinks and decided to monetize them to make a profit? Bruh, what a legend
Uh, no. The arguments didn’t arise because she created a character to satisfy her fetishes and decided to monetize it. The real issue was mostly her dishonesty. The discussions emerged due to:
  1. As illustrated in this image, the author repeatedly denied—essentially lying—to anyone inquiring about the canon status of the FANBOX content. She presented the story as 'wholesome' on Twitter while concealing the most controversial elements behind a paywall on FANBOX. The problem is, she wasn't very smart about it, making it clear that the FANBOX content was canon despite her denials. Yet, some people insisted on placing their trust in the author.
  2. Some people refused to accept the true nature of the character:
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    They continually defended the FMC as a victim, and this perception was largely due to mistranslations.
 
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Uh, no. The arguments didn’t arise because she created a character to satisfy her fetishes and decided to monetize it. The real issue was mostly her dishonesty. The discussions emerged due to:
  1. As illustrated in this image, the author repeatedly denied—essentially lying—to anyone inquiring about the canon status of the FANBOX content. She presented the story as 'wholesome' on Twitter while concealing the most controversial elements behind a paywall on FANBOX. The problem is, she wasn't very smart about it, making it clear that the FANBOX content was canon despite her denials. Yet, some people insisted on placing their trust in the author.
  2. Some people refused to accept the true nature of the character:
    SxM7upv.png

    They continually defended the FMC as a victim, and this perception was largely due to mistranslations.
It makes sense
 
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The original idea for Gyaru Aneki started when I felt a strong urge to draw something about sleep assault. However, after I uploaded the manga on FANBOX, it was flagged for violating the guidelines, and my account almost got banned within a day. As a result, the project collapsed, and the restructured version became what is now the Twitter version.
I was drawing both the Twitter and FANBOX versions intending to tie the stories together while fully indulging my fetishes, so the result was a much darker story, heavily packed with my personal kinks. I still remember how some readers were horrified and saddened by the FANBOX thumbnails at the time, and I’m truly sorry for that. But my warped fetishes as the author couldn’t be changed, so I pressed on.
So, basically, she wanted to have her cake and eat it, too? Like, serialize in mainstream publications and sell pornography through mainstream sites, while at the same time satisfying her fetishes like non-con and sleep sex? Shouldn't she just print a story in some pornographic publication, - Japan has these for everything including pedophilia, dismemberment, torture, and whatever the hell else, - and be done with that? Or is it, like, so much less profitable?
 
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So, basically, she wanted to have her cake and eat it, too? Like, serialize in mainstream publications and sell pornography through mainstream sites, while at the same time satisfying her fetishes like non-con and sleep sex? Shouldn't she just print a story in some pornographic publication, - Japan has these for everything including pedophilia, dismemberment, torture, and whatever the hell else, - and be done with that? Or is it, like, so much less profitable?
My understanding is she wanted dark erotica on twitter, but readers were against it.
She wanted to satisfy her fetishes and make money via porn on fanbox, but they didn't allow her fetish all the way.
The twitter readers were upset about the canonicity of the fanbox pages, so she lied about them.
Then she got serialised and completely rewrote it to be mainstream and not what she wanted. And still uses fanbox as an outlet for her fetish but now needs to clarify why the characterisations and such are inconsistent (it's because they're essentially different characters)
 

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