Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu - Vol. 7 Ch. 49 - Moon-led...

[Knonderd]

Thanks for the update, somehow Makoto on this chapter feels more emotional than in the WN

 

[Psychronia]

Huh...interesting changes from the WN. I like Makoto's increased self-reflection.

Tomoki is still...ugh...yeah...

 

[Kisato]

@alidan

Spoiler

You might be mixing this series up with another one. Makoto was sent over here by Tsukiyomi and since the goddess of this world literally tested him into the middle of nowhere, Tsukiyomi gifted him with power. However, Makoto took to it like a foal to a teat and the feat nearly drained Tsukiyomi of all of his power. The other gods heard about this and offered a small boon to Makoto as well.

Please do keep in mind that I haven't read it in a while so it's entirely possible I'm misremembering or that there were differences between the web novel and the manga as is usually the case.

 

[alidan]

@Kisato

Spoiler

During the goddess abducting him a second time and him being able to speak common, something contacted tomoki and hibiki and gave them a secondary power. tomoki choose great offense, and the only thing he could think of was a nuke, he used it on the dragon killer, the way he described the effects and conditions he could use it heavily suggested nuke if not confirmed it. hibiki was contacted and she got a gift that allows her to become more powerful the more people believed in her, which if she is to become a moral authority then will be a great boon to her long term but doesn't have the immediate effect of a power boost like tomoki had, and while she was talking with that entity it seemed like they were not going to give makoto one, implying that he already had his.

at least the way I read it, and the visions he had, implied that this was a different life of his, where instead of finding emma first, he was first found by tomoki, became his friend, found the two later on, they died at the hands of the heros, and he decided fuck everything and and didn't hesitate to end everyone who opposed him. one of the things I remember was mention of 'maybe if we had another in their group' implying a male influence/friendship and not just the 2 girls, maybe things could have changed.

Its been a few years since I read it myself, possibly a translation issue or a plot point that the author decided goes nowhere, I dont know, at least that's how I read it.

 

[Glomoro]

"I just hope nothing goes wrong" Oof. Did anyone ever tell these two not to say shit like that? Practically asking for the universe to bully you.

 

[mahtan]

@bk3k
You know what is the problem and why is is a fallacy?
Tomoki is automatic recognized as being "bad" or "evil" but because the reader can't separate the characters as individuals they overlook how bad Hibiki is, to a point I'm starting to guess that she is just as bad in the LN as she is in the WN but the readers are falling for that fallacy and don't see her flaws as big deals because they compare with Tomoki.

Spoiler

Another reason to have that vision of Hibiki is that eventually Tomoki gets his just deserves but so far Hibiki has been overlooked and treated by other characters as being inconsequential. Even though the MC has realized how "bad" she is he overlooked it because she is someone he knew from Earth.

Something interesting is that the manga, so far at least, has put Tomoki as a innocent boy that is being manipulated by the princess in doing all the "evil" things and yet everyone agrees the guy is trash while Hibiki gets a free pass, though I suppose Hibiki has done nothing too big yet.

Edit: Off course I could just invoke Godwin's law to show how that "one is not bad because I can compare to someone else that is worse" is a fallacy but I'm not going to do it because it looks unecessary even for me.

 

[Jeirien]

@alidan

Spoiler

Those dream is the memory drom different dimension. One of the side chapters the the 3 visitor of the goddess commented that due to the goddess summoning it created parallel worlds and the god of destruction went and destroyed them.

 

[Banarok]

@mahtan the main problem i have with tomoki

Spoiler

is his free & unremorseful use of mind control, Hibiki might be bad but she don't remove peoples ability to argue their case, or just walk away she does not listen to people and basically bulldoze her way forward with what she thinks is right but it's a more relatable character flaw to basically raping any woman that he interact with by mindcontrolling them to like him.

 

[marcyvq]

In a more serious manga he'd leave and the bandits he let live would just massacre the village

 

[mahtan]

@Banarok
Hibiki does use mind control to have everyone liking her too... it is one of the blessings from the bug...
Also Tomoki only does as he does because of the princess, he was guilty because of it and then the princess said it was Ok to use that power and d what he wants. Does this justify anything? No, but it does change Tomoki's character from naturally evil to a manipulated stupid one.

Before anything is said the mind control does not work on the princess as having a way to not be affected was the first thing she did after learning about it.

 

[alidan]

@Jeirien

Spoiler

that was another idea, but whatever gave tomoki and hibiki more power made it seem like they gave something to the makoto too, which made this though a secondary possibility. I haven't really kept up with it due to the seemingly slow rate of new chapters, so i'm somewhere around 200-235 in. did whatever give tomoki and hibiki more power ever get explained/revealed?

 

[Luftwaffles27]

Sees last page:

Spoiler

"I just hope nothing goes wrong..."

 

[cannarali]

Oh? HIbiki and the mc finally gonna meet? This might be better than the no ball hero Tomoki meeting Makoto first.

Edit: reading down comments it seem hibiki becomes worse of the two in the future...uh, that ain't good.

 

[moonlight00]

author basically saying: everything is going to go wrong.

 

[Smokeball]

the last page is just 'your name' style LuL

 

[AyyGiraffe]

oh god this is so slow, is it worth going to look for the Ln or Wn ?

 

[Shelly]

@nachtness Doesn't his zone affect him too?

 

[Shelly]

@cfusion25

Spoiler

EDIT: IIRC she also does a little bit of victim-blaming against the demi's for their shitty situation where they either declare war or die and should have just accepted becoming slaves.

Yeah I remember that. The last part especially.

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@mahtan

Spoiler

The thing about Tomoki, is that many of his actions and the way he treats people is not something the princess manipulated him into doing, it's something he did on his own when she manipulated the situation around him to keep him happy so that he would be her loyal chess piece.
If you take someone to a place they know the law doesn't reach, and give them a knife, and they decide to go on a serial killing rampage (instead of cutting vegetables or something), are they not responsible for their choice?
It's the same thing with Tomoki. The princess enabled it, and knew what she was doing, she is guilty of that. But Tomoki is the one who took the action, and he is not innocent.

 

[nachtness]

@Shelly physicaIIy not

 

[ispcizero3rd]

uh... so, im asking what is the current relationship between makoto and 2 other heroes in the current LN ? is it bad ? i mean before re read again after reading it up to ch 36 previously, i got a feeling that hibiki might allied with makoto. Was i wrong thinking about it ? sure tomoko doesnt seems to be potential ally judging from the introduction of his chara.