Amayo no Tsuki - Vol. 12 Ch. 48.2 - Overflow

[377Z]

Man just starter Reading this peak today and dang this manga is so Freaking Peak... Hiatus dangg

 

[oneWhoreadsalot]

They say patience can lift ships

 

[Pseudomania]

AAAAAAAAAAA THIS IS SO FUCKING GOOD

 

[Kanami-chan]

That's rape

 

[yuushikey]

i'm out of breath
KANON LTE'S GOOOOO!!!!

 

[RoseYuri]

i get that its okay cuz they both have feelings for one another but i think that you shouldn't really kiss someone without it being clear what you're gonna do and what it means...
back to fiction though: jeez, finally

 

[shittycoolusername69]

I think you've confused internalized homophobia with just regular homophobia. One does not have to be homophobic to have internalized homophobia. It's a much broader concept than just that.

No, I think we're just not using the same definitions for homophobic beliefs. I don't mean outright hating other queer people, but buying into homophobic/sexist ideology on some level. That said, it's very common for people to not be conscious that they have drunk the kool aid.

 

[TheLostLight]

No, I think we're just not using the same definitions for homophobic beliefs. I don't mean outright hating other queer people, but buying into homophobic/sexist ideology on some level. That said, it's very common for people to not be conscious that they have drunk the kool aid.

No, that is not the issue. I don't have such a rigid definition of homophobia. The issue is simply that your definition of 'internalized homophobia' is incorrect, as I already explained. One does not need to 'buy into' homophobic ideology to be affected by internalized homophobia. That is simply not what the term means.

 

[TheLostLight]

No, I think we're just not using the same definitions for homophobic beliefs. I don't mean outright hating other queer people, but buying into homophobic/sexist ideology on some level. That said, it's very common for people to not be conscious that they have drunk the kool aid.

Honestly, this is getting way too technical for an off-topic manga discussion, but just for reference, and in one last attempt to clear up this misunderstanding, this is a better definition for internalization by Lev Vygotsky:

1. An operation that initially represents an external activity is reconstructed and begins to occur internally
2. An interpersonal process is transformed into an intrapersonal one.

So all it really takes is for an interpersonal process, such as someone saying, "Gay people shouldn't kiss in public because it's gross" to your face, to becoming an internal process, a voice in your mind saying, "If we kiss in public, people will find that gross." It does not necessitate the acceptance of the value behind the norm. One could believe the attitude to be morally, factually, or pragmatically wrong, but as long as the reaction has gone from an external one to an internal one, internalization has happened. So, internalized homophobia is simply the internalization of norms originating from homophobic values. It, once again, does not necessitate the acceptance or justification of those values.